Guillermo del Toro confirms he will not be collaborating with Kojima on Silent Hills

meltingparappa said:
The thing is, say that Silent Hills was 10% complete but with a complete design doc and most of the pre-production finished and was seen by a million different people at Konami, with the management pouring over them and approving them (even if only for budgetary reasons).

If KojiPro recycles ANY of that, it might mean an immediate lawsuit after the game reaches a point where that content is revealed to the public (i.e., when the game is almost done). If they change thew new Pyramid Head character into a Square Head character, that's still a little iffy.

The path of least legal and financial resistance is to just abandon the dream, and mourn that they went through all the trouble of making a digital Daryl for nothing.
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I don't want something like what Silent Hills may or may not have been. I want something like P.T. I don't care about Daryl being in it.

If Kojima makes a first person horror game with zero story ties to P.T. or Silent Hills then Konami will be able to do precisely zero about it.
 
plagiarize said:
Seriously who gives a shit about the Silent Hill franchise? P.T. was awesome by itself.

What we should be doing is convincing Kojima to make more stuff like P.T. He doesn't need Konami to make another game like P.T. or to expand on the idea and make a full title based on those concepts.

Hell I'd prefer another first person P.T. experience to a third person game like Silent Hills was almost certainly going to be.

Konami might own the P.T. brand and Silent Hills, but so what? Kojima doesn't need either to give us more and I'm confident he will. It seems a much more likely course of action for his next title than another stealth action affair, something we know he'd been wanting to move away from.
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COMPLETELY agree with you. After playing P.T. And finding out that the actual Silent Hills game would be nothing like it, I was disappointed and basically counted Silent Hills out of my list of games I wanted. After the first 3 Silent Hills, I completely lost interest in the series (just my personal experience).

If Kojima is creating his own studio or whatever after Konami, then he needs to make P.T. a reality. Fuck Silent Hill, just come up with an entirely new IP that plays on the whole 1st person gameplay. The curiosity you get that causes you to meticulously search every nook an cranny in P.T. is what made the demo so scary. You're so focused on finding something, and then this random bitch comes out, snaps you up, and chokes your ass until you die/pass out, what a rush!!!!!


• 1st person w/ a focus on graphics quality is the way to go for a game like this.

• 3rd person w/ a focus on too much action is old and tiresome.
 
how can I hold all these future Konami purchases

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I imagine when all of the dust settles from this, we'll have a fine read. There's clearly something big here and the fact that Konami has a gag order on Kojima and refuses to address anything speaks volumes.

That said, I suppose I deserve this for expecting a good modern Silent Hill game.
 
There goes my hope for the franchise and a great survival horror game. Great job KONAMI. Silent Hill dead, Resident Evil dead, ... at least we got Evil Within.
 
plagiarize said:
Kojima announcing a horror game in the vein of P.T. would be huge news, more so if Del Toro is attached. P.T. didn't need Silent Hill. Any further horror projects from Kojima won't either.
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I get where you're coming from, as a standalone thing it would be pretty cool, but the actual explosion came when that girl finished it first and found out it was a Silent Hill teaser. Before then it was just "well this is a creepy thing" but then finding out it was attached to Silent Hill is what got everyone buzzing. At least, that's the way I remember it.

I fully agree and understand what you're saying about the playable teaser's concept, but it was still made to hype up a new Silent Hill game, and I think it proved that when you handle Silent Hill that well, people will board the train again. Without Silent Hill, we wouldn't have gotten that teaser in the first place.
 
For starters, fuck Konami.

Secondly, it is absolutely crazy how much damage they are doing to their public image by not saying anything about the whole Kojima debacle and letting everything get heard from other sources. Do they truly not give a shit anymore?
 
I wouldn't have minded another shot at this franchise, but nothing about P.T. was promising, so I'm not too upset. If they also dropped MGR2 however...
 
I just joined the thread to say fuck you Konami. You managed to be in the top of the shitlist. Yes, higher than EA and Ubi. What a feat!
 
Personally I didn't find P.T. as special as everyone seems to find it, and I lost interest in Silent Hills the minute I found out Kojima was leaving, so this news doesn't hurt as bad as it should.
 
I hope maybe Sony (just because PT was hosted there exclusively) gets in touch with Kojima and Del Toro and lifts this back off the ground under a different name. It was supposed to be a reboot anyway.
 
Xaero Gravity said:
Personally I didn't find P.T. as special as everyone seems to find it, and I lost interest in Silent Hills the minute I found out Kojima was leaving, so this news doesn't hurt as bad as it should.
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I liked it, it was pretty well done for a teaser but I saw it as just that, a teaser and not much else.
 
It's as if whoever was in charge of bringing us the 2010 Konami conference is now running the company.
 
Del Toro's style is perfect for story driven games. After his game project mishaps, I want to say maybe he should start his own studio, but that's not realistic at all. A shame it had to come to this.
I wonder what the odds are of them collaborating on a new project.
 
It was on the cards ever since Kojima announced his departure, so I'm not surprised. Saddened obviously, but it's best to be put out of your misery with a direct confirmation like this as opposed to what I'm sure the Konami executive approach would've been - to remain silent on the matter and dick around the fans for months with half-answers. P.T. was great, it could have led on to great things, it didn't, fuck Konami. End of story.
 
Oh and since they're shutting down even this which would have been a sure-fire success I can't see Konami funding a new Suikoden at all, Verendus.
 
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