So Hufflepuff is CLEARLY the best house...

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Yeah.. I think her thing was more like, the sport of Muggle killing/hunting/torturing-- duh, dark Wizards hate Muggles, maybe some joined the SS/Nazi in order to partake in those atrocities.

It's pretty fucked up, and way too dark for a YA series imo.

(But, at the same time, it's hard to ignore WW2 and how much it destroyed Europe, so..)

Way I always understood it was that World War 2 and the Wizarding War of the time happened simultaneously as a by-product of some deeper synchronicity. They didn't cause each other, but ran side-by-side.
 
Hufflepuff is for the people who always wonder why they can't catch a break. The people whose grills get manhandled by their neighbours. The people whose lunches are stolen from work. The people whose hobbies are always maligned as "for kids". The people who can't make it work with a prostitute. The people whose sisters know distinctly what it sounds like when they masturbate. The people who can't abide having to apply for jobs in order to get them. The people who tattoo their own genitals because they procrastinated too long.

Hufflepuff: the people who will only ever become wizards at the age of 30.

Wait a minute aren't these all examples of recent GAF threads? Holy shit lol
 
I'm afraid I don't understand that reference, sorry! Would you mind elaborating?

It's from an anime called From The New World (Shin Sekai Yori). Basically modern society gets destroyed due to a few people with psychic powers whose powers go out of control.
 
I think it's pretty laughable that wizards have such a sour relationship with the people who control their money.

Their society literally can't function without untamperable currency and the minting of such is knowledge is exclusive to the goblins. I wonder what the hell the goblins are getting paid with if they're willing to put up with human blowhards.

Probably ancient relics that will eventually help them conquer the humans who treat them like dirt.
 
Hufflepuff is for the people who always wonder why they can't catch a break. The people whose grills get manhandled by their neighbours. The people whose lunches are stolen from work. The people whose hobbies are always maligned as "for kids". The people who can't make it work with a prostitute. The people whose sisters know distinctly what it sounds like when they masturbate. The people who can't abide having to apply for jobs in order to get them. The people who tattoo their own genitals because they procrastinated too long.

Hufflepuff: the people who will only ever become wizards at the age of 30.
Amazing.
But I think we can all agree that Luna Lovegood was the best girl.
Yes, yes.
 
Fuck I actually have to dig out my ancient Pottermore account.

I'm now curious if there are actual companies in the WW.
 
You know, it blows me away no dark wizards ever thought to start their world domination plans with the muggles first -- as no wizards would really be watching, -- subtly indoctrinating them into the evil forces, and then attacking the wizarding world all at once with a magically triggered-and-brainwashed army one billion strong.

There just aren't enough wizards to fend that off, you'd think.
Simple really: The wizarding world is old and stuck in the past.

Before the industrial revolution, most muggles posed zero threat to a wizard. There was little point to using them as weapons. Then in the short span of a few centuries, muggle populations exploded and they developed computers, vaccines, antibiotics, efficient mass-produced guns, space travel, wireless communication, global surveillance via satellites, the works. The muggles of today absolutely are a dangerous force, but wizards haven't caught on yet because they're still stuck in their medieval mindset that muggles are a joke and muggle studies are a joke.
 
Fuck I actually have to dig out my ancient Pottermore account.

I'm now curious if there are actual companies in the WW.

Weyland-Yutani. Weyland is actually named for the legendary smith so, really, it's part muggle corporation, part wizard Zaibatsu.

:)
 
Simple really: The wizarding world is old and stuck in the past.

Before the industrial revolution, most muggles posed zero threat to a wizard. There was little point to using them as weapons. Then in the short span of a few centuries, muggle populations exploded and they developed computers, vaccines, antibiotics, efficient mass-produced guns, wireless communication, global surveillance via satellites, the works. The muggles of today absolutely are a dangerous force, but wizards haven't caught on yet because they're still stuck in their medieval mindset that muggles are a joke and muggle studies are a joke.

Basically what I was trying to say. The Wizarding World, and dark wizards in particular, consider themselves so superior that it doesn't even occur to them that muggles might have any value.
 
Harry done fucked up, I mean I think the only "character development" Ginny even got was she had a crush on him in Book 2.

To be fair, Ginny was an interesting, well-rounded character in OotP. One who was still dealing with her own trauma, and to boot was friends with Luna when no one else was, for years. And she wasn't a super hot hyper Quidditch asskicker girlfriend as seen through the eyes of Harry, either.

Not until HBP. Dunno what happened there, except Rowling seemed to have dropped the entire concept of the cohesive six-man Team Potter that went into the Department of Mysteries. So character complexity went a bit squiffy.
 
So, the wizards probably have some sort of magic that goblins wand/need. No idea what though.

Oh yes, I thought of this too.

But we see wizards using goblin-craft all the time, but not a single goblin ever used wizardcraft. That's the part that rankles. They're clearly not getting paid but supplying their services anyway.
 
Oh yes, I thought of this too.

But we see wizards using goblin-craft all the time, but not a single goblin ever used wizardcraft. That's the part that rankles. They're clearly not getting paid but supplying their services anyway.

They love their jobs so much they do it for free!
 
Oh yes, I thought of this too.

But we see wizards using goblin-craft all the time, but not a single goblin ever used wizardcraft. That's the part that rankles. They're clearly not getting paid but supplying their services anyway.

They control the world's money supply, what use is getting paid when they already have all the money?
 
Oh yes, I thought of this too.

But we see wizards using goblin-craft all the time, but not a single goblin ever used wizardcraft. That's the part that rankles. They're clearly not getting paid but supplying their services anyway.

Maybe they get royalties for goblincraft and regulation of financial services.
 
Maybe they get paid in other ways? Magical housing, spells cast when needed, protections and enchantments on Gringotts, etc.

And since there's a lot of Goblin Rebellions and whatnot, it's also possible that the wizards have somewhat subjugated the goblins in some way.

Sounds like slavery. Who will be the goblin Malcolm X?
 
What always weird-ed me out about Ginny and Harry's relationship was how much they mirrored Harry's mother and father physically.

Harry is supposed to be a shoe in for James, and Ginny has a lot of the same traits as Lily.
 
Sounds like slavery. Who will be the goblin Malcolm X?

I suppose if anything, they're both slaves to each other. That's why the wizarding world's been so stuck socially and technologically. Frozen in a single defining stasis of power balance.

Imagine what would happen if that one day broke.

Oooooh.
 
Maybe they get royalties for goblincraft and regulation of financial services.

1) Commision goblins to print money
2) Pay goblins in money they printed
3) Infinite revenue

THE ASTOUNDING ECONOMIC THEORY BEHIND THE SOCIETY OF POTTERVERSE, FINALLY REVEALED.
 
What always weird-ed me out about Ginny and Harry's relationship was how much they mirrored Harry's mother and father physically.

Harry is supposed to be a shoe in for James, and Ginny has a lot of the same traits as Lily.

Yeah, I found that a wee bit strange myself. I know people are supposed to be comfortable hooking up with people that resemble their own families genetically, but damn, you'd think at least Ginny might feel a little creeped.

"Hey.. when you look at me.. do you think about your mom?"

"Uh, heh, no, why would you think that?"

"No reason."
 
Honestly in their world, even something like the gold standard wouldn't make sense. Might as well do a fiat currency.
 
1) Commision goblins to print money
2) Pay goblins in money they printed
3) Infinite revenue

THE ASTOUNDING ECONOMIC THEORY BEHIND THE SOCIETY OF POTTERVERSE, FINALLY REVEALED.

Explanation for magic working in the Harry Potter universe: troll science actually works.
 
Ginny's character had potential - she starts as a timid dork with a crush on the famous guy and eventually gains confidence and becomes her own person - but Rowling didn't do it justice. The character development falls short and Ginny shouldn't have ended up with Harry at all. In fact, none of the characters should have ended up with their damn high school sweethearts, come on. These kids graduate at 17 or 18.
 
Ginny's character had potential - she starts as a timid dork with a crush on the famous guy and eventually gains confidence and becomes her own person - but Rowling didn't do it justice. The character development falls short and Ginny shouldn't have ended up with Harry at all. In fact, none of the characters should have ended up with their damn high school sweethearts, come on. These kids graduate at 17 or 18.

I thought Ron and Hermione was interesting because that's a relationship with potential conflicts, which can always be fun if handled properly. And real relationships and marriages have conflicts too.

But yeah, Harry didn't need to end up with Ginny. He didn't necessarily need to end up with anyone from that group. It could've been part of his epilogue.

"Oh, yes, and Harry eventually married Fergie Garbageblast"
 
Ginny's character had potential - she starts as a timid dork with a crush on the famous guy and eventually gains confidence and becomes her own person - but Rowling didn't do it justice. The character development falls short and Ginny shouldn't have ended up with Harry at all. In fact, none of the characters should have ended up with their damn high school sweethearts, come on. These kids graduate at 17 or 18.

They also live in an isolated world where they go to school with nearly all their peers in the country. Also, if a Wizard marries a Muggle, they pretty much have to give up their wizarding life, so most probably don't see it as worth it. In context, it makes sense that most wizards meet their spouses at Hogwarts.
 
The romance always seemed almost tacked on to me. Even the relationship between Ron and Hermione seemed underdeveloped. I don't remember any hints of it prior to book 6.
 
The real question is how the fuck Severus Piton ended up as Slytherin.
 
The romance always almost tacked on to me. Even the relationship between Ron and Hermione seemed underdeveloped. I don't remember any hints of it prior to book 6.

It was underdeveloped. But I suppose... what are you gonna do, start shipping 11 year olds?

...who am I kidding? Internet is rife with that.
 
It was underdeveloped. But I suppose... what are you gonna do, start shipping 11 year olds?

...who am I kidding? Internet is rife with that.

But it just kind of appeared in book 6. Suddenly Ron is just angsting about Hermione. I guess you could say it started with Krum but Ron actually seemed more jealous of Hermione getting to hang out with a world famous Quidditch player.
 
Still think Harry should have ended up with a Muggle. Someone that didn't know how famous he was, and liked him for himself.

Well, there were really only 3 girls at school who didn't care about his fame. Hermione, Ginny (after book 2), and Luna.

I really didn't have an issue with the pair ups. Harry is too normal for Luna. Hermione is more like a Sister, and he and Ginny ended up having a lot in common.

Hermione and Ron seemed foreshadowed. They complimented each other much better in the books. Ron was the pragmatic, level headed one, and while Hermione was very smart, she crumbled under pressure (where in the films, Hermione is both smart and level headed and Ron always falls apart).

And while I didn't mind the pairings, I do think the underlying reason was that the Trio is all related in the end.
 
1) Commision goblins to print money
2) Pay goblins in money they printed
3) Infinite revenue

THE ASTOUNDING ECONOMIC THEORY BEHIND THE SOCIETY OF POTTERVERSE, FINALLY REVEALED.

I don't think they would accept the money they created as payment, because if i recall correctly, their culture says anything they're commissioned to create belongs to them and they're only leasing it to humans for the commission fee.

I think it was goblins who worked like this? they mention it in the last book.
 
But it just kind of appeared in book 6. Suddenly Ron is just angsting about Hermione. I guess you could say it started with Krum but Ron actually seemed more jealous of Hermione getting to hang out with a world famous Quidditch player.

Ron x Krum OTP
 
I don't think they would accept the money they created as payment, because if i recall correctly, their culture says anything they're commissioned to create belongs to them and they're only leasing it to humans for the commission fee.

I think it was goblins who worked like this? they mention it in the last book.

Yes, I was joking.

Anyway it seems like it's time to ship characters, so I can firmly say that the only ship I'll accept is a Harry/Hermione/Ron threesome ending.
 
Yes, I was joking.

Anyway it seems like it's time to ship characters, so I can firmly say that the only ship I'll accept is a Harry/Hermione/Ron threesome ending.

I prefer the cuck ending where Ron doesn't know which of his kids are actually Harry's.
 
I was actually hoping she would go all out and kill off one of the three. Then you just have to Pair the Spares

I always thought that trope was something Voldemort would say.

"Now Pair the Other Spares!"

"Yes, Lord Voldemort, I must bring about your desired ships!"
 
Be fair, Lupin had a rather significant disability that kept him from finding employment. At least he didn't end up in jail, dead, or a rat for most of his adult life like his other friends.

All of these guys were Gryfindors...hmmm.
 
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