Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
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Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I hope this means we get KH 3D HD and a KH 3 trailer in E3, HYPE.
JuanLatino
Member
Nomura and his team had to help out with the FF13 and their complicated engine...After that there was the FF14 fiasco.
I remember someone from Nomuras Team said, that until 2009 they did nothing on the game...only creating some trailers
The real development probably started around 2010...in 2012 they decided to switch to next-gen
My theorie is, that nomura had too high ambitiouns (Sequels, switching characters) & it would take more years and money for Square Enix to implement these...
legacyzero
Banned
Sorry, but after a full generation of that crap, I'd rather not.I mean
-All male party
-Messy writer change
-No strong female characters, are the summons all male too? Poor Shiva
This game is shaping up to be a mess
Queen Lightning doesn't look so bad now, does she GAF? Praying for FFXIII-4 @ this point
Lightning isnt really the best way to do a "strong female character". She barely has personality.
Tera is a strong female. Quistis was a strong female character (more or less). Yuna (kinda). Lulu (with exception of the outfit).
This is all my opinion, of course.
Lighting was.... She was just annoyingly bad.
So much this on the character change bit.
I'm willing to give the writer a shot, is dissida the only game she wrote for, can't find staff credits myself.
Spehornoob
Member
Is there any evidence that Luna's role is different than Stella's?
The only trailer I recall with Luna was the one in which we saw her in the chair, and I remember her looking as though she was steeling her resolve for something rather than looking like a damsel in distress.
The only trailer I recall with Luna was the one in which we saw her in the chair, and I remember her looking as though she was steeling her resolve for something rather than looking like a damsel in distress.
I'm very irritated because they specifically said they only changed the title in 2013 and the same story with Nomura in charge was close to being done.
Now we see this is the opposite. Nomura was booted, Stella was changed, the direction of the story was altered completely, scenes gutted, no sequels(that one is probably a good thing), its no longer a KH type action game...
These are all the things that were changed from 2013 to now, not even factoring in from announcement till then.
By gum, i'm trying to stay optimistic that the end product will be atleast a good game, but i still don't know what SE will have to show for basically 11 12 years of development at the time its released.
Now we see this is the opposite. Nomura was booted, Stella was changed, the direction of the story was altered completely, scenes gutted, no sequels(that one is probably a good thing), its no longer a KH type action game...
These are all the things that were changed from 2013 to now, not even factoring in from announcement till then.
By gum, i'm trying to stay optimistic that the end product will be atleast a good game, but i still don't know what SE will have to show for basically 11 12 years of development at the time its released.
Megawarrior
Member
I feel like I'm getting awful FFXII flashbacks when it was still in development. *sigh* I'll keep my expectations in check once this releases. Only good thing I got out of all that is no sequels so at least the game should have a solid ending (hopefully)
Japanmanx3
Member
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's probably the best news I've heard yet, honestly.
This game...wow. At this point, people just want to play this to see how much of a train wreck it is. I mean, when you make the rest of the AAA development industry look like a great landscape of super high tier development...you have fucked up.
I also do not believe the no sequel talk. NEVER believe "no sequel" talk. This is video games people.
I also do not believe the no sequel talk. NEVER believe "no sequel" talk. This is video games people.
あきらめルナ！
Still, I'm disappointed. There was something about that first Stella in that trailer back in 2009 (?) that I really liked. And while Nojima's writing can get a little convoluted, it's the kind of thing where you go back and play a second time and you pick up on all kinds of things. The Dissidia writer? Maybe she can step up. I hope so.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
So take the trailer that came with Advent Children on BR and forget about it. FFXV is basically a social experiment.
Hell yes for closed story!
The Stella/Lunafreya thing seems to me that they completely reworked Stella's role in the story, and in the process they changed her name. It's ok.
Even the most "optimistic" theories considered Luna to be Stella's sister or whatever, because there was no way in hell their similarity was just a coincidence.
The Stella/Lunafreya thing seems to me that they completely reworked Stella's role in the story, and in the process they changed her name. It's ok.
Even the most "optimistic" theories considered Luna to be Stella's sister or whatever, because there was no way in hell their similarity was just a coincidence.
artsi
Member
I want to play it because it still seems awesome and the demo gave me a great impression.
Don't care for development problems, just the product.
The only problem I see so far is too much communication too early, they revealed the game when it was still a scratch in Nomura's sketchbook. Now it's going to be an actual game and people are upset because changes were made.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
new team attack
nice!
Well, you don't have to go very far, Vanille and Fang were waaaaaaaay better than Lightning, specially Fang.
PS: They specifically said they are not planning sequels? OK, three sequels incoming then.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
I am definitely more excited about this game now. Nojima is gone, no sequels planned, and waifu lovers are sad. God is in heaven and all is right with the world.
I wonder if we will get Stella derail warnings in topics now.
Anyway, it's disappointing to hear that they won't be showing the game at E3, but Square seems to have a full plate without it. The June 9th demo refresh is a fun substitute for the E3 hype and Gamescom isn't too far off anyway. The game practically feels real now, just announce a proper release date/window and I will be happy.
edit: also Dragoon lady remains. Nice.
I wonder if we will get Stella derail warnings in topics now.
Anyway, it's disappointing to hear that they won't be showing the game at E3, but Square seems to have a full plate without it. The June 9th demo refresh is a fun substitute for the E3 hype and Gamescom isn't too far off anyway. The game practically feels real now, just announce a proper release date/window and I will be happy.
edit: also Dragoon lady remains. Nice.
AuthenticM
Member
Been burned a couple of times with these kinda things.
If it turns out that Luna is that kind of character, then yeah, it'll suck. But right now, all we have on her is that one shot of her grasping her pendant. It's not enough. What I'm saying is: let's wait and see before panicking.
Totally. I mean, according to the new writer (or Tabata), the original game was supposed to not have closure because the story was to be told through multiple games. For a game that took so long to develop, yeah, it does paint Nomura as having way too much ambition. He should have lowered it a bit, made his one game to stand on its own, and then, if the game is a massive success, follow through with sequels and a world-building mythology of some kind.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Pfft.
Watanabe/Toriyama will be just as bad if not worse. I mean I'm open to new blood, but Square Enix should really start hiring someone who is actually competent to write their game, aka throw their money at Yasumi Matsuno.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Jesus christ. Enough with these vapid drive by comments. Just because you couldn't be assed to know her backstory, doesn't mean we didn't know a lot about her. There was lots of info on Stella in the past 8 years, because she was a major character.
lucablight
Member
Who was the original writer for this? I was genuinely excited about the story when I heard there was no Toriyama. Should I be worried now?
new team attack
lol at the cartwheels, omg that's hilarious.
Leafhopper
Banned
Things shown in CG cutscenes represent the entirety of a character going by this thread. Assumptions everywhere for both of what these ladies would do.
Even with the backstory provided of Stella, the game was in development heavily back then and that could have changed easily. I get people were impressed by her character but, a game with this long of a development time, I am not surprised even stuff like this changes.
Not only that I for see post saying "boycott FFXV until Stella is back." followed by a petition on change.org.
90TilInfinity
Member
Well, at least Lady Dragoon and Black-hair-chick are still in. They seem interesting... apparently they still play "important roles within the story", so we'll see.
Spehornoob
Member
I have to say I'm happy there are no sequel plans.
Let's go back to standalone FF games. I'd scrap a bunch of the spin-offs too, while we're at it, but I know that'll never happen.
Let's go back to standalone FF games. I'd scrap a bunch of the spin-offs too, while we're at it, but I know that'll never happen.
DrROBschiz
Member
Jeebus
If they keep changing shit and second guessing the game itll never come out
Its already been what now? 5-6 years?
If they keep changing shit and second guessing the game itll never come out
Its already been what now? 5-6 years?
artsi
Member
They wanted to show a trailer but it didn't have enough new footage so the western branch said no. They want to save all the good bits to Gamescom where the promotion campaign will begin.
He did it once...I guess he got fed up too. He's doing Dragon's Dogma now instead!
Leafhopper
Banned
jimmypython
Member
Hopefully Nojima and Jun Akiyama are working on FFXVI with Ito.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Versus XIII was first shown in 2006. Nine years later, it's still not out and it won't even make an appearance at e3.
Ehl oh ehl
Ehl oh ehl
It's Latin-derived. There are variations, but Latin constellātiō consists of con- (together) + -stella (stars) + -tio.
cloudstrife
Member
I loved Stella. She left such a meaningful impression.
What the hell, Tabata?
What the hell, Tabata?
DrROBschiz
Member
Holy Mcshitballs man
They should have picked a singular vision and just pushed out the game and moved on years ago
Well at least...
For me, it's ok. We did not have a lot of informations about Stella (but that's what it makes her interesting and mysterious). But the problem is the communication. They could say it right after TGS announcement or even E3 2013 (I feel that this was already the case back then)
For me, it's ok. We did not have a lot of informations about Stella (but that's what it makes her interesting and mysterious). But the problem is the communication. They could say it right after TGS announcement or even E3 2013 (I feel that this was already the case back then)
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
new team attack
That looks pretty cool.
Looking forward to seeing more of the update.
Slamtastic
Member
Well at least...
Downgrade.
Wasn't her the face of ffxv together with noctis?
Removing her implies a HUGE story change imo, after all ffxv looked like a romeo & juliet x final fantasy, now the game looks more like a bro road movie.
Honestly already when someone said that ffxv was like a road movie i felt that something was not right...
Removing her implies a HUGE story change imo, after all ffxv looked like a romeo & juliet x final fantasy, now the game looks more like a bro road movie.
Honestly already when someone said that ffxv was like a road movie i felt that something was not right...