Forza Motorsport 6 has "wet weather, 3D puddles and night races" + more

Apoleptica said:
My only worry and wish for Forza 6 is that I hope T10 carry over some or all of the tracks from F5, particularly nurburgring. I want new tracks and locations for sure but I skipped out on F5.
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I can pretty much guarantee that if it was laser-scanned it will be in Forza 6.

That includes:
- Road America
- Bathurst
- Spa
- Silverstone
- Nurburgring
- Long Beach
- Prague

For sure, I don't exactly remember what other tracks were laser-scanned.

mrklaw said:
Improvements during a generation come from a combination of better tools from the platform holder, and better familiarity from the developers with the hardware. That shouldn't be surprising.

What is surprising for me is the specific xbox talk around DX12. I'm sure it brings some meaningful improvements for PC, although seemingly of more benefit for lower performance CPUs - I'm not sure how big the benefits will be for higher end gaming rigs. But for xbox, the drivers should have been efficient from the start. If they weren't, then we will see meaningful improvements, but it does also mean that the drivers until now have been immature.

One interesting thing for me is the gap between xbox and PS4. Current games seem to illustrate a performance gap that is roughly correct for the difference in hardware. So *if* there are significant improvements coming to xbox from driver updates, then that does suggest that there are similar improvements possible on PS4. Whether Sony can leverage that I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see.
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As far as the CPU is concerned the Xbox One drivers are not efficient as they can be with DX12.

The Xbox One was built with DX12 in mind and Turn 10 helped in designing the Xbox One hardware.
 
p3tran said:
doffen that only happens if you go at showroom -like noobcraft's video- or when you play a series for the first time.
:D
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Nah, she pops up when a track loads too. Something along the lines of; "We now return to Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya for the next part of this championship". She annoys me too.
 
Fitts said:
Already? Is this franchise annualized at this point?

Gran Turismo: Original released in 1997, 6 games total

Forza: Original release in 2005, 8 games including this one
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Forza Motorsport has always been biennial. Why did you include Horizon under Forza and not the secondary GT releases under Gran Turismo?

Fitts said:
It's cool if core fans are down with the release schedule, but as someone who tapped out after the second iteration I don't think I would ever want to dive back in at this point. I don't think that enough would change in a racing game between iterations to merit another full price investment in such a short time and I wouldn't buy one that would have a dead online community in a year (or three) because everyone moved onto the newest release.
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If you tapped out at Forza Motorsport 2 there would be a lot of difference if you rejoin at Forza Motorsport 6. Very few games contain a large online community for three years.
Horizon and Motorsport are different enough games so that both their communities can live.
 
p3tran said:
there is no race announcer of course :D and that fact ruined my first impression that tomato here was referring to the classic music. but nope. so,
highrez tomato, what gives? may I suggest next time ask the clerk at the store where you play forza to turn up the sound for you? :D

oh, and turn up the volume for these son , dont be afraid:
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/869421ce-1f6a-43c3-b5bf-e716b6baf7b6
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/fb0a59c5-f7dd-4f9a-8b92-97e00a7e7458
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/f4ae4bea-6921-4a78-aae0-b96998e650e2
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/0a341f8e-b86e-42cb-b6b8-670b92956b26

;)

and you dont even wanna go to horizon 2, which is of course using newer (but still old for forza 6) sound tricks than forza 5 did at day 1 2013.













guys, here is the best part:

because microsoft will also launch halo 5 and tomb raider, let alone rare game and all the heavy hitters from third parties,
I have a good feeling that forza 6 will not be released at christmas. not even on november.
and because t10 has proven that they run like a well oiled f1 engine, I'll say that MAYBE they'll be the first of the AAA games to launch.
I want SEPTEMBER
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Lol what clerk? I bought it digitally on launch day, the soundtrack for menus and loading screens is shit compared to Forza 2.

Black Mantis said:
Nah, she pops up when a track loads too. Something along the lines of; "We now return to Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya for the next part of this championship". She annoys me too.
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Doffen said:
This announcer: https://youtu.be/nTWSqHi3vUk?t=14m35s
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Thank you, I really didn't want to reinstall just to capture the voice.
 
Black Mantis said:
Nah, she pops up when a track loads too. Something along the lines of; "We now return to Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya for the next part of this championship".
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Yeah, I can vouch for this too. I wouldn't have called it an announcer, but it comes up in menus between races after championship events.
 
FordGTGuy said:
It was leaked by an official source, Turn 10 has confirmed that it's 1080p 60fps while contacted about the leaks 50 fps and finally the leak included images that are watermarked FPO and confirm the leaked information.
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Hmm.

Would an official source get something as basic as the frame rate completely wrong?

Not convinced.
 
FordGTGuy said:
I can pretty much guarantee that if it was laser-scanned it will be in Forza 6.

That includes:
- Road America
- Bathurst
- Spa
- Silverstone
- Nurburgring
- Long Beach
- Prague

For sure, I don't exactly remember what other tracks were laser-scanned.
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God that would make me soo happy. Though I suspect those who have played countless hours of F5 might complain that T10 is rehashing old tracks, hopefully that isn't the case though since it would be like complaining about bringing back old cars that were in the previous game too lol, which would be ridiculous.

Mascot said:
Hmm.

Would an official source get something as basic as the frame rate completely wrong?

Not convinced.
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I believe it was a Japanese to English translation error.
 
Black Mantis said:
Nah, she pops up when a track loads too. Something along the lines of; "We now return to Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya for the next part of this championship". She annoys me too.
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thats loading, not playing.

anyways, this is already taken care of in horizon 2, where you have the return of a full set of sliders for sound channels, adjusting environment, voice, engine, tires, music etc.
 
Fitts said:
Already? Is this franchise annualized at this point?

Forza: Original release in 2005, 8 games including this one

It's cool if core fans are down with the release schedule, but as someone who tapped out after the second iteration I don't think I would ever want to dive back in at this point. I don't think that enough would change in a racing game between iterations to merit another full price investment in such a short time and I wouldn't buy one that would have a dead online community in a year (or three) because everyone moved onto the newest release.
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How is it 8 games if this is Forza Motorsport 6 ? Did I miss Forza -1 and Forza 0 ? Or Forza 3,5 ?

Forza Motorsport always had a 'every other year' release schedule. Since the very first one on the original Xbox. Man this should be written in the thread title each time.
And changes between different iterations have been significant. Heck, night + wet alone is a pretty huge change.

But yes, of course if T10 were given more time we would see much more significant improvements between releases
 
eso76 said:
How is it 8 games if this is Forza Motorsport 6 ? Did I miss Forza -1 and Forza 0 ? Or Forza 3,5 ?

Forza Motorsport always had a 'every other year' release schedule. Since the very first one on the original Xbox. Man this should be written in the thread title each time.
And changes between different iterations have been significant. Heck, night + wet alone is a pretty huge change.

But yes, of course if T10 were given more time we would see much more significant improvements between releases
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Forza -1 was the best!

He included Horizon 1 & 2.
 
FordGTGuy said:
People down playing DX12 gets really tiring too.

Especially from people who seem to forget the difference between launch games and end of generation games last-gen.
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Very true, what is this guy's agenda anyway? Phil said the difference won't be "dramatic", but he's going completely the other way to say it won't make a difference at all which is just as bad and "annoying" as the people exaggerating the benefits.
 
Mascot said:
Hmm.

Would an official source get something as basic as the frame rate completely wrong?

Not convinced.
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That's the new Ford GT, no?
It's enough to convince me.
 
Gestault said:
Yeah, I can vouch for this too. I wouldn't have called it an announcer, but it comes up in menus between races after championship events.
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the loading screens and music in Forza 5 are so fucking boring and almost puts me to sleep while loading up a race. Was a shift in tone from the prior games that I hated.
 
Doffen said:
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That's the new Ford GT, no?
It's enough to convince me.
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I'd love for it to all be true, but it just smells a bit... off.

Having said that, Ian Bell has commented that he'd heard on the industry tom-toms that Turn 10 were working on full ToD and a weather system for FM6 so... who knows.

Roll on E3.
 
mrklaw said:
Improvements during a generation come from a combination of better tools from the platform holder, and better familiarity from the developers with the hardware. That shouldn't be surprising.

What is surprising for me is the specific xbox talk around DX12. I'm sure it brings some meaningful improvements for PC, although seemingly of more benefit for lower performance CPUs - I'm not sure how big the benefits will be for higher end gaming rigs. But for xbox, the drivers should have been efficient from the start. If they weren't, then we will see meaningful improvements, but it does also mean that the drivers until now have been immature.

One interesting thing for me is the gap between xbox and PS4. Current games seem to illustrate a performance gap that is roughly correct for the difference in hardware. So *if* there are significant improvements coming to xbox from driver updates, then that does suggest that there are similar improvements possible on PS4. Whether Sony can leverage that I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see.
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That's something I'll never deny. The PS4 will see its fair share also. The Xbox One isn't the only platform that stands to benefit from what's happening with these new APIs. Mantle is pretty much being incorporated into Vulkan, and I expect what's going on there will bleed over into what's going on with the PS4. Sony's API team will simply just incorporate and make improvements to their own tools like they've done for years, and gamers are going to be treated to some amazing things when devs come to grips with it all.

At some point we'll be looking at some early PS4 games that we thought were stunning and our jaws will be on the floor. It may even happen this very year, but almost certainly come this time next year it will. I honestly think when we see people excited about what DX12 could mean for Xbox One, there's almost a rush to judgment that those who are hopeful are viewing it as some last ditch effort to "catch up" with the PS4, when in reality there are just as many, if not many more, who feel the Xbox One is fine just the way it is and doesn't need to catch up to anything. They are two different systems which will share some games, and that will each have its share of fantastic exclusives. Yea, graphical arguments over this and that and which one looks better will never end, that's just how the community/industry works. But really when I think about where the platforms can go from launch to when they're much more seasoned consoles, I'm much more excited to see how each platform can keep outdoing itself over the span of this generation of games rather than how they stack up against one another.

As has been said many times before, the specs won't change, and both systems will improve over the long term. It's just important to keep in mind that with a lot of what we've been seeing from DX12 so far, the specs didn't change in any of those cases either, but somehow we see some pretty nice leaps in performance regardless. That doesn't mean there'll be anywhere as big a jump on Xbox One, but it's hard to fault folks for being even a tiny bit excited about the potential implications.
 
NutJobJim said:
Forza 5 is still the best racing experience this gen IMO.
I'm not talking about number of cars, or tracks or graphics, I mean in terms of how fun it is to actually race around against other racers.

Looks like they are addressing all of the issues people had with 5 and if that's the case then we are going to end up with an absolutely brilliant game. Can't wait.
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I personally liked Horizon 2 and Driveclub more. But maybe I should go back and give Forza 5 another whirl.
 
A FH2 and FM6 bundle would have me interested - hoping this game hits before Black Friday as I might (accidentally) buy it. Always been a franchise Ive been interested in, F5 and how it was delivered really killed that but all what I heard about FM6 is ticking boxes.

Look forward to E3 and more importantly some gameplay footage from a XO

ps3ud0 8)
 
soundscream said:
That girl in the white dress has no hands!!!!!
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Look at the girl in the black dress on the right.

Dem alien fingers :O

I've never understood why people care so much about crowds in racers. I would remove every single human character from them if I could, save for drivers.
 
At the reveal event Greenawalt said there will be gameplay shown at E3 this year, so I don't think the screens are made up, certainly photomode, but I think we'll get a trailer with those scenes soon.
The other stuff, aside from the really weird typos, I think will turn out true in the end. maybe there won't be 450 cars exactly or 26 locations, but things like weather and TOD are so fundamental, they wouldn't include it even in a placeholder if it didn't exist.
Also, MS ninjas had the chance to declare this whole thing as a mistake or something but opted otherwise and even confirmed a technical aspect of the final game.

So yeah, I fully expect we're gonna see this at E3. there will also be an episode of XBox daily with Turn 10 about FM6.
 
My Twitter feed is buzzing with Forza talk this afternoon. Godamn is Microsoft ever primed to have a wicked E3 even moreso with this dropping on us. Gimme that dynamic weather with lots of tracks please. 3D puddles, the new buzz word to get Gaf all worked up too. LOL. Gonna be a sweet E3 for X1 owners. Bring it!
 
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