whoah! hope that holds. it's been a decent day for funding today actually, at least from eyeballing it. it hasn't been as excruciating to watch it limp up to the next 100k
SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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Being on the front page of Reddit certainly doesn't hurt! It has been there for the last few hours, so I'm sure that AMA has been a lot of people's morning reading. Great exposure for Shenmue.
They should at least help him with the PR... because for now, it's the fans who're trying their best to do it.
We need your positive message in this thread : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169167598&posted=1#post169167598
My message isn't exactly positive though lol. All I'm saying is that when you're hugely involved in something it's hard to get perspective. I mean, in that thread, people are freaking out and think that Polygon of all sites is going to somehow kill the Kickstarter and ruin it for the fans. It's just bonkers.
And looking at Bloodstained's tracking, I think $7 million for this is entirely possible now.
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I also find it incredible that "big fans of Shenmue" don't want to have to do with this "just in case Sony are in this" or because "the kickstarter is not transparent enough". This is a one million chance, who cares where the money is coming from as long as it gets made?
Having said that, I really feel sorry for YS having to literally beg for money to get Shenmue 3 made. I guess the business world and the love for videogame art do not intertwine.
Having said that, I really feel sorry for YS having to literally beg for money to get Shenmue 3 made. I guess the business world and the love for videogame art do not intertwine.
actually that makes me wonder about the default items in the inventory
i want to see what the mysterious scroll from shenmue 1 does
This threads needs more Nozomi...
Have always loved her grounded design, particularly that distinctive white sweater. I also think she has some of the best English language voice acting in the original games. You actually believe she cares about Ryo.
Nozomi was the best.
And don't forget this super creepy bit of vintage Sega marketing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQ2m_sEtuw
Have always loved her grounded design, particularly that distinctive white sweater. I also think she has some of the best English language voice acting in the original games. You actually believe she cares about Ryo.
Nozomi was the best.
And don't forget this super creepy bit of vintage Sega marketing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQ2m_sEtuw
It's positive, you're reasonable and not like many who're on the fence because of the collab not being publicly announced and clarified by Obama.
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This threads needs more Nozomi...
Have always loved her grounded design, particularly that distinctive white sweater. I also think she has some of the best English language voice acting in the original games. You actually believe she cares about Ryo.
Nozomi was the best.
And don't forget this super creepy bit of vintage Sega marketing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQ2m_sEtuw
Just saw that advert lol... and then they complain that Shenmue didn't sell.
SkullHydra
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What the heck?
Shenmue was a game for a more mature age of gaming that just hadn't arrived yet. Sega had no idea how to market it in the US so they tried... weird things.
This threads needs more Nozomi...
Have always loved her grounded design, particularly that distinctive white sweater. I also think she has some of the best English language voice acting in the original games. You actually believe she cares about Ryo.
Nozomi was the best.
And don't forget this super creepy bit of vintage Sega marketing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQ2m_sEtuw
Lol! That ad is awesome and its true to the game expereience too. Someone had their thinking cap on.
while we're sharing videos, how about shenmue on saturn!
it's crazy how far along this looks. even crazier when you know shenmue and shenmue II were meant to be the same game. that'd be nuts. the scope of both those games are huge as it is.
it's crazy how far along this looks. even crazier when you know shenmue and shenmue II were meant to be the same game. that'd be nuts. the scope of both those games are huge as it is.
Yu is just such a damn genius. Shenmue clearly looked AMAZING on Saturn and did awesome things on the hardware. It is fascinating to see that his artistic vision was so strong and specific that it came through so beautifully even on the Saturn.
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Yeah I was floored the first time I saw this. It's pretty unbelievable how good the faces look on Saturn too, when you compare it to something like Metal Gear Solid on Playstation. I always wonder what kind of crazy shit the Saturn could have done had developers gotten a better handle of its stupid architecture.
it also goes to show just how much of his career he was actually working on shenmue. for nearly a decade he was working on it in one way or another.
truly is his magnum opus.
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Wow. Heh, it kind of is.
here's something i noticed:
with shenmue/shenmue II recaps and language translations being the first stretch goals instead of development improvements, it shows one of the primary aims of the kickstarter was to make it as accessible to as many people as possible
that's pretty cool, actually.
with shenmue/shenmue II recaps and language translations being the first stretch goals instead of development improvements, it shows one of the primary aims of the kickstarter was to make it as accessible to as many people as possible
that's pretty cool, actually.
Could the OP update his post, please with this ?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169172913&postcount=743
I think it's a good recap to sum up against the backlash.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=169172913&postcount=743
I think it's a good recap to sum up against the backlash.
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He's mentioned before about the European fanbase being especially vocal about the series (might this be why Shenmue 2 DC got released here?) which makes me wonder if the game is still revered in Japan after all this time and whether he has similar experiences there...?
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Just for comparison sake, what sort of games have been made with say, 10 million production budget?
Yakuza 1 or Yakuza 2.
Witcher 3 said they made it with 15M and other 10+M for just marketting.
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Interesting. But I would assume Yakuza today would cost much more to make? Better graphics = more $$$
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Well yes but Witcher 3 was made in Poland not Japan (much lower average wages).
maquiladora
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+ Remember this will be built using pre-existing tools. There will be no engine building. This will have a huge impact on cost reduction and development time.
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Sectorseven
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Metro Last Light's budget was "10% of similar games."
The devs also worked in Kiev in a building with no heat and power outages.
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Despite being "open world" I don't remember each chapter's area in Shenmue being exactly huge. Today we get huge open world games (GTA, Watch Dogs, Witcher 3 etc.). Would it be fair to expect a much bigger open world space in the 3rd Shenmue when compared with the prequels?
i think it was fairly popular in japan, but i've not got much idea about how the reaction to the kickstarter has gone down.
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Everyone needs to spread this image everywhere:
Facebook, Twitter, gaming forums etc. Get it done!
Facebook, Twitter, gaming forums etc. Get it done!
You didn't say in your question that you wanted to take in account the countries where the game were made
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I guess in Ukraine wages aren't much higher than Poland either. The game will be made in Japan, and I believe wages there are quite high. As a result of this, Shenmue 3 would cost much more than it would should it be made in an ex-Eastern Bloc country. And I don't believe YS is going to move his studio there any soon
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I do wonder what kind of game they can make with such a low budget.
The first 2 had the biggest budget of the time
The first 2 had the biggest budget of the time
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You didn't say in your question that you wanted to take in account the countries where the game were made
Ok my fault, but then, when comparing one compares like with like
maquiladora
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Indeed. They should also add an Amiga stretch goal too
I got my 512KB RAM expansion. I am ready.
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I got my 512KB RAM expansion. I am ready.
Sorry, it requires an AGA chipset.
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The orchestral main theme is the music from Shenmue that sticks with me with the force a a thousand super saiyan Gokus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSOkM4e85SA
I still listen to it regularly to this day. Every time I hear the beginning of it I think fondly of the ship leaving the docks at the end of Shenmue 1....
Everyone needs to spread this image everywhere:
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Please let's have this on the OP and marked as READY TO USE.
well, we're already past the baseline amount needed for a story-based experience
but yu suzuki has already said shenmue 3 is going to be a more intimate experience compared to say, shenmue II. it'll be smaller in scope, because of being set in rural china.
Iorv3th
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I don't think so. He specifically said he wanted the world it self to be smaller with more interaction and focus on character interactions. If you mean areas you can explore before hitting a loading screen or something, yeah probably.
Lovely Salsa
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5% of that 10 mil go to kickstarter
10-15% on taxes
so even at 10, they will recieve around 8 mil
10-15% on taxes
so even at 10, they will recieve around 8 mil
Yakuza 3 needed to ship 500,000 units to break even. So that upped the budget by what, another $10 million?
Although Yakuza employs famous Japanese actors/actress and only the first one of a new gen is expensive.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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It would be impossible to fill it with the kind of detail I associate with Shenmue, especially on this budget, so I don't want a big world. A few small detailed place like Yokosuka would be enough.
BadAss2961
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10 million seems pretty tough at the moment. Gonna need another surge.Everyone needs to spread this image everywhere:
Facebook, Twitter, gaming forums etc. Get it done!
Megawarrior
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Alright I went ahead and backed the art book tier. Yay.
i guess we just have to raise more money ¯\_(ツ
_/¯$47 million to create Shenmue 1 and 2, create all the orchestral music for both games, create the graphics engine from scratch, for all the R&D including traveling, to write up the stories, to pay for all the localisation including english and Japanese voice acting, to do the marketing too, to pay licenses such as Coke Cola. Yup, that sounds right to me and now they can cut down 3/4 of the cost for Shenmue III as most of the stuff such as tools and assets are already available and Sony will cover the marketing. So it makes sense for this game to be funding around $10 - 15 million to get the Shenmue we really want.
El_Cinefilo
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Absolutely, I'd take a Shenmue 1 size map that's dense and detailed with interesting fleshed out characters over a bigger map thats sparse in comparison.
EDIT: $3,423,012 now, Hitting the $3.5m Skill Tree stretch goal today ?
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