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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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Sir_Crocodile
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I messaged them when the ks first started, finally got a reply:
The vendor for the PC version has not been decided yet, but there are no plans to produce a DRM-free version.
Snarfington
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in fairness, that was probably to be expected
it's likely going to be just steam though, so no major deal.
Sir_Crocodile
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kinda is for me, I despise steam
hopefully they announce either a physical ps4 version or gog at some point :/
Ryo Hazuki
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DRM or no DRM really doesn't bother me. It's most likely going to be through Steam or something and I'm not going to wonder about the details for a game that won't be out for ~three years. They have so much time to sort that out.
Tricky I Shadow
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I just finished watching the end of Shenmue II on YouTube just now. The feels you guys. THE FEELS! ;_;
Theonik
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This is what you get for trusting in the French.
If it's Steam it's basically absolutely completely and utterly useless junk. Why would anyone want a one-time use disk. Might as well as give you an empty case.
Regardless. This was expected. Best case scenario is they do disk-check DRM with a steam key. But I doubt it.
In fact I wonder if the French publisher can even directly publish to Steam
I'm all for DRM free games, but let's not be overly dramatic here. It'll probably be Steam. Whatever it'll be, it will get cracked quickly.
Even if it were released without any form of copy protection, there's always the danger that it will "break" in the future on a new version of Windows, because of compatibility issues and bugs.
Ryo Hazuki
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I just hope this line from the new update means good things are coming.
Sir_Crocodile
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Don't be puerile, in what way am I being overly dramatic? It is a coaster even if it's steam.
I'm not cancelling my pledge (I normally would at this stage), because I want the game to be as good as it can, but I'm really not impressed by how this KS has been run.
Lol, that'd be so amusing if everyone that couldn't show proof of backing Shenmue III was banned for a day.Use your mod powers andforcemake GAF members throw money at the kick-starter somehow. We need some kind of stunt on GAF to bring in new backers. That or PM EvilLore to dump in a few million.
I'm getting desperate. : (
Amusing in a destructive, outrage inducing kinda way for lots of people. But it would probably make some news headlines.
gog is probably not going to happen, but ps4 physical? yeah maybe. keep your eyes peeled.
Acquiescence
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It'll be nice to complete that game now and not have to feel a huge wave of longing and crushing sadness envelope me every time the end credits begin to roll.
Ryo Hazuki
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Shenmue 3 co-producer says he's meeting Yu this week and will discuss the state of the Kickstarter page:
Upsidedown Fuji
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Good. Hopefully we'll see some good come from this meeting immediately.Shenmue 3 co-producer says he's meeting Yu this week and will discuss the state of the Kickstarter page:
Who's being puerile here, whining about a bit of inconsequential DRM?
Steam is easy to circumvent, so you will be able to keep using your disc without it.
And what I said about the game potentially breaking in the future regardless is true. I have personally reverse-engineered and revived a couple of old Windows games that stopped working for various reasons in later releases of Windows.
Sir_Crocodile
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I didn't whine. I stated. Bully for you if you want to circumvent.
Tricky I Shadow
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Lol, that'd be so amusing if everyone that couldn't show proof of backing Shenmue III was banned for a day.
Amusing in a destructive, outrage inducing kinda way for lots of people. But it would probably make some news headlines.
GAF should go down for 'maintenance' and then when it's back up have every single thread on page 1 titled "SUPPORT SHENMUE III!". That would get a nice boost in attention.
I'm kinda serious.
Indeed.
IronicSonic
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Use your mod powers andforcemake GAF members throw money at the kick-starter somehow. We need some kind of stunt on GAF to bring in new backers. That or PM EvilLore to dump in a few million.
I'm getting desperate. : (
I think we need a OT for the campaign or at least a change in this thread's name to show others gaffers that the situation has change. US$2Mil founded is not a milestone now.
Also, a official OT might be use to show fanart, tweets, fans initiatives and so on.
I could make one by myself but I can barely write in english
let's not in-fight about DRM
i'm personally fine with steam, because i know DRM at this stage is something we have to accept and steam is probably the lightest and workable DRM going at the moment, but i know that people have other opinions and that's okay
let's just keep pushing the kickstarter.
i'm personally fine with steam, because i know DRM at this stage is something we have to accept and steam is probably the lightest and workable DRM going at the moment, but i know that people have other opinions and that's okay
let's just keep pushing the kickstarter.
Tricky I Shadow
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I think we need a OT for the campaign or at least a change in this thread's name to show others gaffers that the situation has change. US$2Mil founded is not a milestone now.
Also, a official OT might be use to show fanart, tweets, fans initiatives and so on.
I could make one by myself but I can barely write in english
Fully agree. Who's up for it?
modbot will probably kill the thread so long as this one exists
i was thinking about putting together a newcomers guide for shenmue with a link to the KS at the end, but if anybody wants to pull the trigger on that instead of me, go ahead
Ryo Hazuki
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There are so many Shenmue threads that get made, I think any that aren't news will be closed. This is the thread for all things Shenmue 3 Kickstarter and the Shenmue Community Thread exists too.
Ryo Hazuki
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Bunch of people at Shenmue Dojo are trying to push an alternate Kickstarter video around for the campaign that does a better job of explaining the series to newcomers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJcBqS1fDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJcBqS1fDY
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Well that would certainly be a good start.
Sir_Crocodile
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Shenmue 3 kickstarter: sony is NOT funding this and we need another 6.5mil for a fully fleshed out game
Dreamwriter
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Personally I don't want it to reach $10 million anyways, because I don't want them to waste time/money turning it into an open-world game. I'd rather have a game similar to Shenmue 1 or 2, but of course finishing the story.
GhostTrick
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I dont think you understand what Yu Suzuki meant with open world. Basically, 10m is to have a game similar to Shenmue 1 and 2. In fact, the map would be smaller but more packed.
Theonik
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I'm not sure what Open World means in Yu Suzuki's eyes. I think it means reaching the same level of interaction that you got on Shenmue 1 and 2. Yu's vision of an open world rather than something like GTAV.
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Yes the idea in the first place is to make it smaller than SII. So closer to SI
clem84
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They did a good job with that video. It should be in the OP and shared as much as possible.
i think the 10 million figure is more a hindrance than a help, you'll get the same people going "LOL UR BEING RIPPED FOF LUL"
i think a phrase without a number is the best. shenmue is the game that dared to dream, let it dream again. something like that
edit: or just push that there are stretch goals up to 5 million right now. just say "let's meet those stretch goals!"
i think a phrase without a number is the best. shenmue is the game that dared to dream, let it dream again. something like that
edit: or just push that there are stretch goals up to 5 million right now. just say "let's meet those stretch goals!"
They'll have no problem hitting 5 million. But it's extremely unlikely the Kickstarter will reach 10 million barring some changes like new tiers and rewards.
clem84
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I think 6 million is likely. 1.5 in the final 3 days, and an additional million until then.
I agree. I think reaching a deal with Sony to have PS4 physical copies would help them. Also the rewards for the higher tiers aren't that impressive. Improving those would help too.
Portugeezer
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Never getting $10 million.
Theonik
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Also announcing stretchgoals too early can have the opposite than the desired effect. It's a carrot on a stick mechanic. If you put your carrot on a mountain it is not very effective, you need to only show the goals that are in reach for maximum effect, and of course you need to be on top with your planning and campaign management so you can keep up with the momentum.
$10 million is the game of Shenmue I without drawbacks so you should want it to reach $10 million. More than $10 million will result in the inclusion of extra things (such as our wishes and suggestions for inclusion) and further attention to detail. An absolutely epic of madness would be $15 million+ but, of course, the possibility of reach that is really small or not clearly visible unless something crazy happen thanks to SONY's help.
Ryo Hazuki
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Yeah, what worries me about this is that they've randomly name dropped future stretch goals and they already go up to 5 million. Not sure how much further it can go to be honest as I see this only making between 5-6 million maybe.
Alpha Centauri
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I'll build a Lucky Hit Machine and start asking around for funds!
...or try winning the lottery...
Trust me, if I won the lottery, i'd really give 50% of it towards this game.
Why can't one of us be rich?!
That would be a great story to tell though when the lottery money runs out.
Person: "What happened to the money?
You: "Oh you know, the usual. Family, friends, vacations, drugs, alcohol, and women. Oh yeah, I also gave half of it away to a guy to make me a video game. "
Person: "Wat.jpg"
I'll build a Lucky Hit Machine and start asking around for funds!
...or try winning the lottery...
Trust me, if I won the lottery, i'd really give 50% of it towards this game.
Why can't one of us be rich?!
If you ever do that then I hope you will get a royalty % from game sales as a true sign of thanks.
Theonik
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I mean look at all the stupid drama and negativity the $10m namedrop caused. People think they aren't getting a proper game without the campaign pulling a miracle so of course people who aren't fans are starting to get sceptical.
Edit: I'm starting to think their main problem was not predicting their momentum properly, they revealed up to $5m because they expected they'd hit that soon then adjust their reveals accordingly. Of course that is moot if you can't even be certain most people even see your stretchgoals.
The number 1 request in the KS comments section is for a PS4 physical release. Even though I'm not that bothered by digital releases I have to say having a proper boxed Shenmue III to go next to my boxed 1 and 2 is something I would value and cherish more than a non-physical Shenmue.
Dreamwriter
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Unlike others who have mentioned that what Yu Suzuki said might have been interpreted differently, you sound very sure of exactly what the values mean, to some sort of detail, including new amounts such as $15 million. Do you have a source for this information?
Also, the game of Shenmue I cost $47 million, to do a game of similar scope requires outside funding already, so if that is the plan then they've already got some pretty good funding and we shouldn't have to worry.
Ryo Hazuki
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Yeah, the 10 million figure you mentioned is being unfairly criticised in my opinion. Suzuki was just being honest and it was by no means emotional manipulation as some have called it. What's he going to do, lie? At the end of the day I'll be happy with whatever it makes as we're finally getting Shenmue 3 and I trust the team to make a great follow up. I'd love to see it make as much as possible. There's a number of ways to continue funding once the Kickstarter is over and I hope they do that.
Yes, but i'd immediately reach Legend Status among everyone!
Honestly though, I can't see how people who win the lottery can lose all that money lol.
Invest half and you'll be good!
indigo-cyclops
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I'm so incredibly bummed. Tried playing Shenmue 2 on my 360 last night and I couldn't even get to Wan Chai because I get a fucking dirty disc error. There goes that plan.
You can still emulate the PAL version for Dreamcast like virtually everyone else is right now.
It's probably not even the disc. I remember playing my brand new copy of Shenmue 1 years ago on the DC and the second disc refused to play, kept on getting a read error after the Sega logo came up. A few other games acted the same way as well. Temporarily solved this by getting a disc cleaner for it which let the disc play but after a while the same trouble started again. The Dreamcast was a great console but lousily constructed.
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