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I don't see how they could conclusively tell which redemptions were valid or not. Its a tough problem to solve.wonder if destiny/bungie will have any backlash to the gamers who redeemed the codes unfairly..
I don't see how they could conclusively tell which redemptions were valid or not. Its a tough problem to solve.wonder if destiny/bungie will have any backlash to the gamers who redeemed the codes unfairly..
Really? Theft is easier than earning the money to buy stuff. Doesn't make it right.
So many on here are morally bankrupt. Just reprehensible. I expected better from GAFfers.
I feel like this is a failure of the game designer. Or Paul Marketing.
There is no monetary value attached to this. You're paying for Red Bull.
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I just realized that this code requires you to own The Taken King.
That's hilarious.
I just realized that this code requires you to own The Taken King.
That's hilarious.
so i was walking in a parking lot and this douchebag left his sportscar windows open with cash lying all over the passenger seat
i stole a bunch then walked over to the cops and was all like "lol you can totally steal from that car, can i tell people on craigslist"
and they were all "lol yeah fuck that guy, he deserves it, keep fighting the good fight"
so i was walking in a parking lot and this douchebag left his sportscar windows open with cash lying all over the passenger seat
i stole a bunch then walked over to the cops and was all like "lol you can totally steal from that car, can i tell people on craigslist"
and they were all "lol yeah fuck that guy, he deserves it, keep fighting the good fight"
I don't see how they could conclusively tell which redemptions were valid or not. Its a tough problem to solve.
If earlier that day the guy sold you a car with 3 gears and tried claiming it had 6 because you can go back and experience those gears again you might consider it haha.
Ahh dude, I'd been trying for ages!
Thanks a lot man.
Why's the guy who owns the sportscar a douchebag?
Also I'm glad you can see that all crime is equal. You should be a Judge.
...that comes with a code for Destiny and is packaged/marketed as such. It's part of what you're paying for at the time of purchase, so long as the promo is still active.
...that comes with a code for Destiny and is packaged/marketed as such. It's part of what you're paying for at the time of purchase, so long as the promo is still active.
Ahhh this reminds me of the Gamestop $5 giveaway thing last year..
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You mean like snapping pictures of their red bull can (and the user's gamertag or PSN name and today's newspaper) and sending them to customer support? Sounds like a nightmare ;pif someone complained and showed the token?
Interesting point.There is no monetary value attached to this. You're paying for Red Bull.
Contact Red Bull.
Contact Bungie.
Tell them what happened. Tell them the code is invalid. Tell them you need a new code cause you rightfully bought the drink. Take a picture of the code. etc etc etc.
I'm sure they won't run out of something digital, right?
It doesn't justify the theft. It gives you less of a reason to treat this as some great big serious issue to get super mad over.So the fact that I can email someone about the fact that something I paid for was stolen justifies the theft? OK.
So the fact that I can email someone that something I paid for was stolen justifies the theft? OK.
Theft is theft. People can be arrested for stealing gum. You're taking something that you didn't purchase.
So the fact that I can email someone that something I paid for was stolen justifies the theft? OK.
Given Bungie's history, they will probably apologize to everyone whose code was taken by selling the mission for $9.99 or so.
How are they going to know who did it "unfairly" and who didn't? What would the backlash be? "How dare they not have a complicated enough code generation system"?wonder if destiny/bungie will have any backlash to the gamers who redeemed the codes unfairly..
Oh yeah, victim blaming. Classy. Not that they shouldn't necessarily have a better system given people are all over it like this, but that doesn't permit exploitation. You're asking a corporation to assume that their users are a bunch of theft-minded dicks. By proving that they are.More blame on whoever set up the code system.
It doesn't justify the theft. It gives you less of a reason to treat this as some great big serious issue to get super mad over.
Stealing isn't OK but there are some serious overreactions in here. "Morally reprehensible"? Yikes.
Here's the worst case scenario. People with legitimate codes who can't redeem them may have to jump through an extra hoop, like contacting a customer service desk by phone or email to get a new code issued, and they will do it without asking for a proof of purchase because they don't have the resources and don't really care. That sucks and all, but jeez guys.
Posting this for a friend in response to someone's math on this from earlier which I can't find or was deleted.
There are actually 244,944 permutations if the letters are not allowed to repeat and 367,416 permutations if the letters are allowed to repeat. The positioning of the letters matters. Not only are there three choices for which letter to use, but the first letter has eight possible spots it can occupy and the second has seven. So if the letters are allowed to repeat, it's 3^8 x 8 x 7 = 367,416 or if the letters are not allowed to repeat it's 3^7 x 8 x 7 x 2 = 244,944. That's not to mention that this was stated to be just one of potentially several batches, so there should be plenty of these codes to go around.
Because the grief you put someone else through and their time means nothing, amirite? Disgusting..Theft is a very loose term here, my friend. Please know that no one stole your Red Bull or the taurine in it. No one stole your code. They just randomly punched in numbers and one of them was yours and it got taken. This happens with every promo code out there where eventually one of them is taken.
Bungie and Red Bull as a company SHOULD rectify this.
My credit card number got stolen and someone pulled out $1000. Did I cry about it? No. I called VISA and they transferred the money right back. Theft is never justified but it's not something physical they stole from you that can never be fixed, ever.
I'm sorry this happened to you. PM me and I'll send you $5 PSN Code (US Account only).
How are they going to know who did it "unfairly" and who didn't? What would the backlash be? "How dare they not have a complicated enough code generation system"?
Oh yeah, victim blaming. Classy. Not that they shouldn't necessarily have a better system given people are all over it like this, but that doesn't permit exploitation. You're asking a corporation to assume that their users are a bunch of theft-minded dicks. By proving that they are.
Because the grief you put someone else through and their time means nothing, amirite? Disgusting..
The direct quote is this: "So many on here are morally bankrupt. Just reprehensible. I expected better from GAFfers."
IOW, it's reprehensible that many on here are morally bankrupt. And I'm referring to people justifying theft. Theft can't be justified.
I think you are taking a small thing and turning it into a very big thing. I wouldn't consider people who do this "morally bankrupt". I would call their actions in this specific case to be morally wrong, but not in such a way that I am in any way disappointed by their behavior. It may be different for you, but you'll have to excuse me for finding your language a bit dramatic.The direct quote is this: "So many on here are morally bankrupt. Just reprehensible. I expected better from GAFfers."
IOW, it's reprehensible that many on here are morally bankrupt. And I'm referring to people justifying theft. Theft can't be justified.
Primary and initial blame is on the thieves. Sorry. That's absolutely inescapable. "They made it so easy that I couldn't NOT steal from them!" is not a valid defense. The software people are bound to get in trouble (and should) but to blame them over the people committing theft? Fuck no.I'm literally dumbfounded by your response. Yes, whoever set up a code system that is easily exploited as in this case could be the first in line for fault. That's just fault analysis 101. Thing happened, why did it happen, how is it fixed.
There is no monetary value attached to this. You're paying for Red Bull.
I imagine you'd want to take that up with a mod. It's probably allowed because the mod in question doesn't think this is a very big deal, which I would agree with.The fact that someone emailed a mod to get permission to post a thread that exactly details how to steal one-time redemption codes from paying customers and it was granted is why I'm pissed. Like, what the fuck?
If I'm ever in a life threatening scenario and I need to steal to survive I'll be sure to remember that.
How are they going to know who did it "unfairly" and who didn't? What would the backlash be? "How dare they not have a complicated enough code generation system"?
Oh yeah, victim blaming. Classy. Not that they shouldn't necessarily have a better system given people are all over it like this, but that doesn't permit exploitation. You're asking a corporation to assume that their users are a bunch of theft-minded dicks. By proving that they are.
Primary and initial blame is on the thieves. Sorry. That's absolutely inescapable. "They made it so easy that I couldn't NOT steal from them!" is not a valid defense. The software people are bound to get in trouble (and should) but to blame them over the people committing theft? Fuck no.
I imagine you'd want to take that up with a mod. It's probably allowed because the mod in question doesn't think this is a very big deal, which I would agree with.
The name-calling's going a bit overboard...I'm pretty disgusted by all those trying to justify their fraud.
You don't like the system? Don't support the game by continuing to play it, you self-entitled shitheels.