John McCain says Trump just fired up the crazies
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Veritigo_X
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The same crazies his party loves to pander to... their base if you will. He should be careful how he talks about them.
PhoncipleBone
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At first I read the title as "John McClane" and thought it was about Bruce Willis.
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He's not wrong that this is bad for the party. If Trump gets even more popular, it'll be tough to distance his remarks from the republican brand when the time comes to try and win the Hispanic vote.
Also, I serious doubt these are just "the crazies" getting pumped up. Trump doesn't just have support from a fringe minority here.
Also, I serious doubt these are just "the crazies" getting pumped up. Trump doesn't just have support from a fringe minority here.
Baraka in the White House
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You mean the exact same crazies you tried to woo when you unleashed Sarah Palin on the world?
The crazies that regularly decide local and state elections for your party?
Do go on...
The crazies that regularly decide local and state elections for your party?
Do go on...
Sir_Crocodile
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No longer will republicans sing about bombing foreign countries on the radio?
I kinda feel like Palin crazies aren't quite on the same level.
If only because these people have just gotten more radical as the time has gone on.
Polls show it's working.Not like he has anything to lose.
Will sleep in his money bed either way.
the problem is that this is going to be really good for the primaries, but not so much for the general election
SillyEskimo
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McCain is a RINO.
BertramCooper
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John McCain, as he once existed, is already long dead.
Now he's just a bitter, senile old warhawk.
His choosing plain for his vp will always haunt him.
It might work for Iowa and New Hampshire but I doubt it'll go far beyond that.
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I'd argue that McCain is more like Republicans of the past and that the party has shifted to the right more.
Maybe McCain did some other shit during his run, but when I think of him I think of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc
Which is clearly the opposite of 'riling them up'. Anyone bashing him care to share some of his less good moments?
He never was the same after Bush Jr. stole his soul.
evilromero
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I don't think it's getting any better. If Trump is a reflection of the newer Republican than you're in for a world of hurt. The way Trump is catalyzing support through hatred for undocumented immigrants is very troubling. His entire platform seems to be built on fear and outrage.
If that's the "only" thing you remember of McCain's presidential run, there's no point in my even going into the other stuff. Your selective memory is just too strong.
E the Shaggy
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Sorry John, but the crazies have been good and fired up for quite awhile now on the right.
gutter_trash
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man, those Karl Rove tactics during the 2000 primaries were brutal, going after his adoptive daughter
Dubya and Rove are utter scum.
Bay Maximus
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Obama: Targeting Hispanics won't get them back in office. I knew the republicans wouldn't go down without a fight, but this is different. They crossed the line.
Biden: You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed and hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation they turned to a man they didn't fully understand.
Obama: Politicians aren't complicated, Joe. We just need to figure out what he's after.
Biden: With respect, Mr. President, perhaps this is a man that you don't fully understand either. A long time ago, I watched Trump tour the cable news circuit and speak on various social issues. Here was an obviously wealthy individual going on about a mother's right to choose, common sense gun control and healthcare availability for all. This man flew in the face of the lies the right had been trying to sell since Reagan.
Obama: Then why run as a Republican?
Biden: Well, because he thinks it good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Biden: You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed and hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation they turned to a man they didn't fully understand.
Obama: Politicians aren't complicated, Joe. We just need to figure out what he's after.
Biden: With respect, Mr. President, perhaps this is a man that you don't fully understand either. A long time ago, I watched Trump tour the cable news circuit and speak on various social issues. Here was an obviously wealthy individual going on about a mother's right to choose, common sense gun control and healthcare availability for all. This man flew in the face of the lies the right had been trying to sell since Reagan.
Obama: Then why run as a Republican?
Biden: Well, because he thinks it good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
n00bsauce87
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Trump is leading in the polls
Does this mean that the bulk of republican voters are crazies?
Does this mean that the bulk of republican voters are crazies?
One relatively sensible moment isn't the definition of his campaign. That was the exception, not his standard operating procedure.
Randolph Freelander
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Judging by my Facebook feed, the whole daggum base is crazy. Republicans and right wing media have been beating the crazy drum for 30+ years, it should be no surprise that those drinking the kool-aid are certifiably insane at this point.
Angelus Errare
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I wonder how much he regrets the Palin deal.
It's obviously working, and he's certainly found an audience receptive to his ideas (or at least his open discussion of things that people in that audience already believe). The question is whether Trump will pull the eventual GOP nominee to the right in the same way that Bernie Sanders supporters hope that he pulls Hillary to the left. I sure hope so - the broader American population needs to see what the political far right truly believes, and Trump is providing the perfect spotlight for that.
Well, I'm Canadian, so forgive me for not following it so closely. I just see what gets posted on my interwebs!
Good to know.
Pai Pai Master
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The other GOP candidates wish they could fire up the crazies like Trump is.
Bay Maximus
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Seriously. For all the talk in the media about McCain being so honorable, he ran a pretty dirty campaign. Maybe that's just the way US politics is heading.
TheLostBigBoss
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