Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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Just finished the episode.
I don't about you guys but pssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm actually totally not surprised it was Jefferson all along for some reason. There was just something kinda off about him from my eyes. Although, all those Nathan evidence plants almost convinced me otherwise.
I don't about you guys but pssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm actually totally not surprised it was Jefferson all along for some reason. There was just something kinda off about him from my eyes. Although, all those Nathan evidence plants almost convinced me otherwise.
The three picture preview you see at the end: the third picture is the original picture Max was going to enter but tore up in the bathroom. It would be so, so cool if you could go back to the beginning.
I mean the stuff from his sister that was basically; 'you need to get away from dad he's a huge bully I ran to South America you should run further' was a huge red flag.
Then the stuff from him about "I let you have your amusements you need to do your duty" gave me some Tywin Lannister shudders.
I think it's just the pressures of his life. He's a rich, yeah, but also:
1) Insecure
2) People talk behind his back
3) Constantly living in the shadow of his family name
4) Being an accomplice to kidnapping and murder
It's just a cocktail of bad news.
I don't know, the way he went into the fetal position and started saying sorry under his breath made it seem like something he has done before towards someone with power over him. And there is only 2 people who fit that bill, his father and Jefferson.
Spyder_Monkey
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I'm convinced that this is a distant prequel to FFVII and that the Prescotts are ancestors of Shinra or something like that.
hosannainexcelsis
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Everything we saw from Nathan's father leads me to suspect he's somehow behind the whole weather oddities that will culminate in the monster tornado destroying Arcadia Bay while he hangs out in the stocked up barn bunker.
I think the whole Prescott thing was just misdirection for the Jefferson reveal. There's probably nothing unusually sinister there, just greedy families being greedy. In the end, we're actually dealing with a serial kidnapper/killer.
I do wonder how or if they will explain the origin of Max's powers.
Imagine if Samuel is involved. And the Tobanga.
I do wonder how or if they will explain the origin of Max's powers.
Imagine if Samuel is involved. And the Tobanga.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
He's also got documented medication-applicable mental illness, at least to some degree, going off of the note from the psychiatrist or w/e in the bunker to Nathan's parents, and Victoria's comments at the vortex party.
Unless I really read that section wrong.
I kind of wonder if the Tobanga gave her the powers 'in response' to the 'evil' lurking around. IIRC, the science teacher (who believes somewhat in the supernatural) mentions it a protective-type totem during the petition if you ask her about Blackwell's history.
Could be just wishful thinking, though.
Yeah I forgot about that. Maybe it's a history of abuse but maybe it's just a genetic thing?
Interstellar spoiler joke
5th dimensional beings from the future are descendants of Victoria, so they needed someone to ensure she lives.
hosannainexcelsis
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Certainly there's misdirection going on, but at the same time Jefferson is obviously closely connected to Nathan and I would suspect the Prescott family in general - Sean Prescott is the one who ordered and paid for the bunker, so it would be surprising if he had no idea what was going on there.
There has to be a payoff in the works for all the freaky stuff that's been happening in Arcadia Bay and most of all the tornado vision that kicked off the whole narrative. Episode 5 has to deal with that and tie it into Max's time travel.
Yeah.
Hero dies in all of them. Hero sacrifices themselves, except Final Destination. Haven't seen the Time Machine remake.
Max is fucked.
Max is fucked.
The Dear Leader
Banned
I find it hard to believe that the Prescott's didn't know what was going down, I don't think Jefferson could afford a $1.3 million dollar sex dungeon under a Prescott owned barn.
Well was it built as a sex dungeon? Or just a shelter converted into one. I figure Jefferson is close to the Prescott family and has been close to Nathan for a while, and introduced him to his weird kidnapping/bondage fetish. What the Prescotts see is a famous photographer basically playing tutor to their son whereas Jefferson takes advantage of Nathan's wealth to really expand his... hobby.
petethepanda
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(Came in with my eyes closed.) Starting ep4. Going upstairs to get Chloe some morphine, and holy shit is my bummer sense tingling. Going to bed instead and returning to this tomorrow :lol
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The Time Machine remake would be the Chloe has to die variation.
In it, Guy Pearce's wife dies in an accident, so he builds a time machine to go back and save her. But everytime he saves her, she dies in a new way. So he goes into the future hoping to find someone who can give him an answer to why this is. Eventually he is told that he can never use the time machine to save her, because if he succeeded he would eliminate the reason he ever built the Time Machine, hence it being a paradox.
But I don't really think that applies to Life is Strange because Max didn't seek the powers out, they were thrust on her by something.
Dontnod seems pretty cognizant of the sort of stories they're drawing on; Looper, Primer, BTTF are all mentioned in the game so they've clearly had some time to think about what sort of story they want to tell, which is why the last episode should be rather interesting.
I seem to remember a letter from Nathan's dad saying something along the lines of "I built you that place so you could pursue your...interests" implying to me he knows exactly what does on there.
Spyder_Monkey
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The Alt-Timeline was such a big-lipped alligator moment though. Emotionally effective, but pointless story-wise.
What I'm hoping it isn't is
congratulations, Max! You've solved the murder mystery! Jefferson and the Prescotts are going away forever! And Pan Estates will now never be built over that old burial ground! That weird tornado? Well, gosh howdy, it's just gone! And so are your powers! Ain't that something? Now you can be an awesome hipster photographer in honor of Chloe and Rachel! Was Rachel the deer? Did she have powers? Who knows! Who cares! TEH END
So I cried through the credits. Pure shock factor for me. I don't like to think ahead when playing my games. First time over felt emotions since that and that moment from TLoU. The first thing that needs to happen is Max gets out of that place. Which, I don't know how it's gonna happen. Hopefully some natural occurrence time fuckery. I need to watch a happy video before I sleep.
My prediction?
David in an out-of-the-blue heroic rescue. He was the only one left who'd have any inkling.
Basketball
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It works here. =
It's the spoiler thread. No spoiler tags needed.
Even though my David would rather suffocate than breath the same air as me, yes. This is all I can think right now. He has guns, GPS coordinates, and he cares.
Even though my David would rather suffocate than breath the same air as me, yes. This is all I can think right now. He has guns, GPS coordinates, and he cares.
Likely wishful thinking. Typically, stories will include all hints towards a possible explanation within the main running of the plot. For now, the majority of the sideplots in the game can be considered moot and bear little effect on the main story.
well Rachel is seemingly a see-through doe now so I'd venture a guess that this is linked to the totem
Am I right in remember Nathan tries to remove/destroy Tobanga at some point though? Maybe that's just him being a prick or maybe there's more to that.
It may end up being important in establishing that Max can make long jumps back using photos which I'm pretty sure she'll have to do in Episode 5.
It may end up being important in establishing that Max can make long jumps back using photos which I'm pretty sure she'll have to do in Episode 5.
I think it was simply a 'some things you can't change moment' like at the end of Episode 2. I fully expect there to be zero Rewind ability in Episode 5 because we've been conditioned so much to use it so far that the choices you have without it are that much more important.
BTW, what does "I Don't Know" do? I assume it just loops you back.
Danm is correct. It's a setup trick in order to get the audience to understand another aspect of Max's abilities, while also showing Max the principles of cause and effect as well as the Butterfly, erhm, Effect.
An aside:
The problem arises when you realize that Max doesn't have the ability to fully displace herself into the past through the photos. Remember, when she used the pancake photo to travel back and save William, she didn't have the ability to leave the house, and the length of time she spent in the past was measured in minutes.
Unless they retconn it by saying she can control the amount of time spent in the past, or somehow manifest in a full displacement, I don't know how they'll resolve the issue of Chloe's death, and considering how pissed off she was after discovering Rachael's body, I doubt going back to the night of the party would be much use.
Yeah, it loops you back.
Yeah it just takes you back to Accept/Refuse.
That said, I'm not sure the takeaway was that some things you can't change, but rather some things you shouldn't change.
Well...Chloe being shot/killed in Episode 1 led to her death in Episode 4 is a you couldn't change moment.
Saving Kate was a moment you can change, and leads to some extra stuff, but should you have?
Since she'd be jumping back into a time period where Chloe trusts her acting strange and predicting the future without question, I don't see it as a problem. A few sentences could prevent the whole disaster.
Now, whether it would cause some worse shit to happen is the real question.
In the case of Kate I think so, yes. You literally get more scenes and some information to help you along (not that finding Nathan's room is terribly hard).
It felt like the game rewarding you for an optimal job in Episode 2.
As for Chloe, who knows, but I'm sure Max is not done making the attempt.
My guess is that once you escape immediate peril (which I'm assuming you do) Max will eventually go for that drunk selfie, which will be easy or hard to get depending on how you treated Warren all game, sort of like the Frank scene in Episode 4.
Imagine if the only way out at the end is the alternate timeline with Chloe being dead or alive but immobile.
Logically, what would happen is Chloe throws her life to the wind and makes a boast about "being even more prepared", which ultimately fails to do anything. She's desperate for justice, and desperation is a very powerful attitude, even more so when fueled by the supposed need. Seeing as how Chloe finds out that Rachael's dead, that need becomes even more potent.
It'd make better sense to find a way to travel even further back in time, possibly to the beginning of the week, and expose Jefferson and Nathan for their actions to someone that can carry that flag forward, so to speak.
Littlefang
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So if the doe is Rachel, does that make the blue butterfly Chloe?
Yeah it might involve Max hopping all over the week desperately trying to fix shit making things progressively worse, progressively more different and messed up. After all, Polarization has some interesting meanings.
I do wonder about Chloe's relationship with Rachel though. Frank was convinced that Chloe was just as much a problem for Rachel as everyone else.
Anyway, wonder of we'll warp back to the very beginning just to let Chloe die in that bathroom. Would be a very disappointing ending for me. I want them riding off into the sunset pls.
Anyway, wonder of we'll warp back to the very beginning just to let Chloe die in that bathroom. Would be a very disappointing ending for me. I want them riding off into the sunset pls.
JehutyRunner
Banned
To be quite honest? I think the bird is actually William.
Wow that's great. Explains why it's always at the house and follows Chloe around.