2016+ Gaming Laptop Thread: Embracing Pascal's Wafer (Please Read OP)

I made a thread yesterday but got no help:(

So my old laptop broke down, graphics card died and I'm looking for a new one. I'll be using it for internet and email mostly, with programming, Photoshop and light room being the most heavy apps I believe.

I'd prefer something around 14' but don't see anything I like past 13'. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards the Dell XPS but don't know if I should get the 4 gb or 8gb ram model.

Also before I get suggestions of a Macbook pro or Surface, I've tried a macbook recently and returned it and I'm using a surface right now but would rather a dedicated laptop.

I'm also thinking maybe of getting a gaming pc since I don't really need portability but I don't think desktop have wireless capabilities(do they?)
 
Im looking for a laptop guys, sadly I have no idea what exactly to look for.

Requirements: Gaming (pretty much want to be able to play anything out), surfing web, movies, streaming, light weight

Budget: $2300
 
I'm in the market for a new laptop.

country: USA
budget: aiming for whatever gets me the most bang for my buck in the $1000-$1500 range; willing to go higher for a good enough reason
size: preferably 17" screen or so; 15-18" range is acceptable
screen resolution: 1080p60 or better
battery life, fan noise, weight: not a concern

The main usage of this setup will be video streaming and recording via USB capture cards and webcams, preferably at 1080p60 (barring internet bandwidth limitations). PC gaming performance is not a priority. As long as I can output a video preview to the laptop LCD and an external monitor/projector at 1080p60 with no issues I don't really care about the GPU performance otherwise.

Specific things I'm looking for, in order from most to least important:

- upper-end CPU (most important factor for streaming)
- at least 4 USB ports total, 2 or more of which must be USB 3.0
- 3.5mm stereo line-in and out
- HDMI out (an additional VGA out would also be a nice bonus, but I assume that's mostly phased out by now)
- cooling that's good enough to handle streaming events that last literally all day
- eSATA port (would much rather use SATA for storage than USB)
- mid-range GPU (PC gaming is not a huge priority)
- Windows 10 (I'd rather start working out the new-OS kinks in my setup now than wait to upgrade later)
- 500+ GB disk drive (preferably SSD, but not necessary)
- 8+ GB RAM (more than willing to skimp on this and buy aftermarket)
- SD card slot
- optical drive

I figure the choice of Windows 10 may be something that limits my selection. I'd be willing to pick up a Win8 model if I can be assured that it's relatively painless to upgrade it out of the box. I know a new OS has its share of growing pains, but I'm interested in moving forward and working through those now. Even if it turns out to be a pain, I can still rely on my current Win7 machine for a little while longer as Win10 drivers and compatibility for my current equipment/software improves.

One concern I have with laptops is USB bandwidth limitations. My streaming equipment consists of one USB 3.0 capture card (1080p60 4:2:2 YUY2 with no forced hardware x264 encoding) plus 2 or 3 USB 2.0 webcams. I'm unsure how much I should worry, if at all, about being able to support all of those devices at once.

My current laptop tends to run between 85-90 degrees C while streaming for long periods of time. That's lower than the stated max of 100 C for the processor (i7-2630 QM), but it's always struck me as a little close for comfort.

Are glossy and/or touch screens still in vogue for laptops? Can't say I care for those.
Configure this one.


Sorry if this has already been asked before, I was planning to read through the thread to see if it had but I didn't realise how long it was. I'm heading to america next month for a holiday from the UK. I was thinking about buying a laptop while I am out there as I am pretty sure it's cheaper than buying one in the UK from what I have seen. If I did that, does anyone know if it would work with UK power plugs if I bought one? I have no idea if american laptops have issues if they're plugged into a UK power supply. I think I remember years ago a computer of my friends dying because he got it from america and plugged it in at home. I just wanted to make sure before I thought about buying one. Sorry again if it's been asked before and if I asked a dumb question.

Pretty much all modern laptops can be plugged into any wall i the word.

Do any MSI laptops have only SSDs and if not, can you just replace the unwanted HDDs with another SSD or just remove them altogether?

They can all have their SSDs/HDDs removed or upgraded.

Hello all,

I am looking to get a new gaming laptop pretty soon and am looking for recommendations.

This is what I have been using, it has served me well, but something broke inside it (years ago) and it sounds like a lawnmower. I would like something that is better than that.


Country where it will be purchased: USA.
Maximum budget: $1000, the cheaper the better.
Max size: I would like 15" and lightweight, but I'm flexible.
Planned usage: Mainly gaming, I want to play XCOM 2 and Fallout 4 specifically, also Photoshop.
I would like it to have Windows 10, if they even come with that already.

Y50

Wondering if someone can help.

I've had intermittend frame rate drops on my laptop for a few months now.

It's a 3 year old laptop but it should'nt be lagging at all in those games.

680m GTX
i7, 2.7ghz
16Gb RAM
Win10 x64

I'm running both DOTA2 and Heroes of the Storm at smooth 60 fps, and then it'll drop to around 15-20 fps for maybe a full minute before getting back to normal.

Any ideas?

Have you EVER cleaned out the fans? If no, there's your answer.

Hello everyone, I am searching for a new laptop.

Location: US
Budget: $1000
Size: 14-15"
Usage: Some gaming, but mostly for software development. I do a lot of back end development with resource-heavy processes, and I need to operate within many different Windows at once. So a nice chunk of RAM would be great. I am hoping to get into game development so a discrete GPU would be nice (but doesn't have to be God-tier).

I'd prefer a sleeker laptop, as I carry it around a lot. Not tiny thin though. Windows OS only.

I currently have an ASUS Q501LA, which has a 15.6", 1080p touchscreen, i5 4200U CPU, 6GB of RAM and a 750GB 5400 RPM HDD. It was a Best Buy only unit i got refurbished for $600. New laptop does not need to be touch, but I'd like it to be a nice improvement.

I've been looking at the Lenovo Y50. I am also getting my Masters in Software Engineering, so I get a student discount from Lenovo, which keeps it under budget. I've heard bad things about the display and the HDD for non-gaming purposes. I was also looking at the ASUS ROG GL551JW-DS71, which seems great but looks really bulky.

The reason I've been looking at gaming laptops is they seem to be the only ones with a lot of RAM and a discrete GPU. Software development comes first though.

Go Y50

Looking for a laptop. I'm lost on where to even start. It is for college and note taking, watching movies/Netflix on my downtime. It is absolutely not for gaming at all. I prefer it if was windows (10). Best laptop for college? My budget is around $600-$800. I assume that a good price point if it isn't for gaming? It is for IT.

Buy this.

I've been looking into a few things, and I'm thinking on an Aorus X5. SLI 965Ms in a 15" yet slim package is looking pretty good for me. Only thing putting me off is having to make sacrifices to play at native res since they've thrown a 3k screen in there (albeit with G-Sync)

Anyone got any thoughts on a 15" power laptop? I don't really have a budget. Power would be the biggest thing, followed by slimness and portibility. Noise and heat would be bigger concerns than battery life (although not a big deal if I could get more power for the money).

Was also considering the Razer Blade, but since they're not officially sold over here in the UK, I kinda took it out of the running as it could be a bitch if I ever need to return it under warranty.

Aorus X5 gets way too hot. One of these?

Hey guys I have just bought a gaming laptop for the first time and I have a question. Do you have to enable vsync with everything? Or is there another way around to prevent screen tearing because without it I get screen tearing everywhere.

Vsync = no tearing, so yeah

I made a thread yesterday but got no help:(

So my old laptop broke down, graphics card died and I'm looking for a new one. I'll be using it for internet and email mostly, with programming, Photoshop and light room being the most heavy apps I believe.

I'd prefer something around 14' but don't see anything I like past 13'. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards the Dell XPS but don't know if I should get the 4 gb or 8gb ram model.

Also before I get suggestions of a Macbook pro or Surface, I've tried a macbook recently and returned it and I'm using a surface right now but would rather a dedicated laptop.

I'm also thinking maybe of getting a gaming pc since I don't really need portability but I don't think desktop have wireless capabilities(do they?)

Gaming PC is always the #1 option.

Im looking for a laptop guys, sadly I have no idea what exactly to look for.

Requirements: Gaming (pretty much want to be able to play anything out), surfing web, movies, streaming, light weight

Budget: $2300

One of these?


This laptop sucks, stoooooop it.
 
I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15 two weeks ago and decided to try out games since it had a graphics card (Geforce 840M) even though I didn't plan on gaming when I bought it - but it's great for everything else. I had no idea where that chipset falls in the power category - optimistically I expected last-gen games to be OK, maybe at 1080p. So I installed Just Cause 2 cause it was the type of game I felt like playing and would be a good benchmark. The results for that and other games follow:

Just Cause 2
INITIALLY things looked good - almost 60 FPS on medium settings at 768p. Even at 1080p it might have been playable. But then the stuttering began. Didn't matter how chaotic the action was - if I spawned in a relatively tranquil town it stayed ~60 FPS at first but then stuttered at 5-20 FPS. Same result regardless of graphics settings or resolution - it's quite surreal seeing this performance on a "modern" graphics card on lowest settings at 800x600. I somehow played 3 hours like this being a masochist as well as an insomniac. I read on the Steam forums that some guy had similar problems on Windows 10 and solved it by checking the "disable high DPI scaling" setting in the game EXE as well as setting compatibility mode to Windows 7. No difference! So I installed another game to see if if had similar problems.

Bioshock 2

Should have been less demanding than JC2 since it's an older engine and has small environments. Same issues only WORSE. I maxed it out at 1080p and the stuttering is even more extreme - framerate never higher than 30 FPS and stutters as low as 1-2 FPS 90% of the time (in comparison JC2 stuttered 10-50% of the time). I tried disabling high DPI scaling (unlike JC2 it was already checked) and forcing Windows 7 compatibility; also no difference.

Audiosurf

The least demanding game I played - I had no problem playing AS on my older laptop with an 8600M GT card. Played a mid-tempo song at 1080p on normal settings. This is the smoothest game of them all at a nearly perfect 60 FPS (of course) but there's STLL stuttering! About 5 stutters in a 3 minute song but it's the most playable of the games. Then I tried a faster song on enhanced settings and there was increased stuttering.

The most plausible explanation for the dreadful performance is that there's a conflict between the dedicated and integrated graphics. I don't know if my laptop has Optimus tech or why I have both kind of graphics. Can I disable integrated graphics? What else could cause stuttering in every 3D game?

Laptop Specs:
Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15
• Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
• Windows 10 Pro 64 (shipped with 8.1)
• 15.6" FHD IPS LED 1920x1080
• NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
• 180GB SSD SATA III
 
I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15 two weeks ago and decided to try out games since it had a graphics card (Geforce 840M) even though I didn't plan on gaming when I bought it - but it's great for everything else. I had no idea where that chipset falls in the power category - optimistically I expected last-gen games to be OK, maybe at 1080p. So I installed Just Cause 2 cause it was the type of game I felt like playing and would be a good benchmark. The results for that and other games follow:

Just Cause 2
INITIALLY things looked good - almost 60 FPS on medium settings at 768p. Even at 1080p it might have been playable. But then the stuttering began. Didn't matter how chaotic the action was - if I spawned in a relatively tranquil town it stayed ~60 FPS at first but then stuttered at 5-20 FPS. Same result regardless of graphics settings or resolution - it's quite surreal seeing this performance on a "modern" graphics card on lowest settings at 800x600. I somehow played 3 hours like this being a masochist as well as an insomniac. I read on the Steam forums that some guy had similar problems on Windows 10 and solved it by checking the "disable high DPI scaling" setting in the game EXE as well as setting compatibility mode to Windows 7. No difference! So I installed another game to see if if had similar problems.

Bioshock 2

Should have been less demanding than JC2 since it's an older engine and has small environments. Same issues only WORSE. I maxed it out at 1080p and the stuttering is even more extreme - framerate never higher than 30 FPS and stutters as low as 1-2 FPS 90% of the time (in comparison JC2 stuttered 10-50% of the time). I tried disabling high DPI scaling (unlike JC2 it was already checked) and forcing Windows 7 compatibility; also no difference.

Audiosurf

The least demanding game I played - I had no problem playing AS on my older laptop with an 8600M GT card. Played a mid-tempo song at 1080p on normal settings. This is the smoothest game of them all at a nearly perfect 60 FPS (of course) but there's STLL stuttering! About 5 stutters in a 3 minute song but it's the most playable of the games. Then I tried a faster song on enhanced settings and there was increased stuttering.

The most plausible explanation for the dreadful performance is that there's a conflict between the dedicated and integrated graphics. I don't know if my laptop has Optimus tech or why I have both kind of graphics. Can I disable integrated graphics? What else could cause stuttering in every 3D game?

Laptop Specs:
Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15
• Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
• Windows 10 Pro 64 (shipped with 8.1)
• 15.6" FHD IPS LED 1920x1080
• NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
• 180GB SSD SATA III
840m is ok but no way will it max out last gen games at 1080p. Just Cause and Bioshock sound normal.
Make sure your Nvidia drivers are up to date.
Optimus works well but it often won't activate the GPU for some games which might be happening with Audiosurf. Right click the desktop, open Nvidia Control Panel, go to Manage 3D Settings, click the Program Settings tab, Add the audiosurf exe, and make the preferred graphics processor the NVIDIA GPU.
Also check your temperatures using something like HWMonitor, chances our your laptop is throttling as well.

Edit: better instructions.
Also reset all the compatibility things, they aren't needed and could potentially cause issues in the future.
 
Hello,

I've been looking for a new laptop and was hoping for some help.

Country: USA
Maximum: 2500
Size: Would like a 17" screen
Usage: 1080p60 FFXIV, also want to play 1080p60 Street Fighter 5 when its out but since there's no specs for it, that's kind of difficult to predict. Would also like to stream SF5 so probably need a core i7
HD: 250GB SSD for boot and at least 1 TB for storage

I was looking at this one but I wasn't sure if there was a better deal out there: http://www.sagernotebook.com/customize.php?productid=778

I appreciate any help. :)
 
Thank you. That's good.

Be very aware that the GS series has a very labor entensive breakdown. But the GE and GT series are simply a removal of the back cover.

I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15 two weeks ago and decided to try out games since it had a graphics card (Geforce 840M) even though I didn't plan on gaming when I bought it - but it's great for everything else. I had no idea where that chipset falls in the power category - optimistically I expected last-gen games to be OK, maybe at 1080p. So I installed Just Cause 2 cause it was the type of game I felt like playing and would be a good benchmark. The results for that and other games follow:

Just Cause 2
INITIALLY things looked good - almost 60 FPS on medium settings at 768p. Even at 1080p it might have been playable. But then the stuttering began. Didn't matter how chaotic the action was - if I spawned in a relatively tranquil town it stayed ~60 FPS at first but then stuttered at 5-20 FPS. Same result regardless of graphics settings or resolution - it's quite surreal seeing this performance on a "modern" graphics card on lowest settings at 800x600. I somehow played 3 hours like this being a masochist as well as an insomniac. I read on the Steam forums that some guy had similar problems on Windows 10 and solved it by checking the "disable high DPI scaling" setting in the game EXE as well as setting compatibility mode to Windows 7. No difference! So I installed another game to see if if had similar problems.

Bioshock 2

Should have been less demanding than JC2 since it's an older engine and has small environments. Same issues only WORSE. I maxed it out at 1080p and the stuttering is even more extreme - framerate never higher than 30 FPS and stutters as low as 1-2 FPS 90% of the time (in comparison JC2 stuttered 10-50% of the time). I tried disabling high DPI scaling (unlike JC2 it was already checked) and forcing Windows 7 compatibility; also no difference.

Audiosurf

The least demanding game I played - I had no problem playing AS on my older laptop with an 8600M GT card. Played a mid-tempo song at 1080p on normal settings. This is the smoothest game of them all at a nearly perfect 60 FPS (of course) but there's STLL stuttering! About 5 stutters in a 3 minute song but it's the most playable of the games. Then I tried a faster song on enhanced settings and there was increased stuttering.

The most plausible explanation for the dreadful performance is that there's a conflict between the dedicated and integrated graphics. I don't know if my laptop has Optimus tech or why I have both kind of graphics. Can I disable integrated graphics? What else could cause stuttering in every 3D game?

Laptop Specs:
Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15
• Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
• Windows 10 Pro 64 (shipped with 8.1)
• 15.6" FHD IPS LED 1920x1080
• NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
• 180GB SSD SATA III

Thing is, the GT 840M is only "modern" in the context of being built on the Maxwell architecture. Nvidia still has it positioned as their 'entry level, at least it's better than Intel's iGPU' card, with its 384 shaders , 64-bit bus and DDR3 memory. For comparison, the 860M has 640 shaders, 128-bit bus, with GDDR5 memory, and will max most last-gen games that aren't in the Crysis series.

Thanks! Looks perfect.

It's really an amazing value. To get 1080p, a 128GB SSD (!), and a decent mid-range GPU for under $800 is so dope.

Hello,

I've been looking for a new laptop and was hoping for some help.

Country: USA
Maximum: 2500
Size: Would like a 17" screen
Usage: 1080p60 FFXIV, also want to play 1080p60 Street Fighter 5 when its out but since there's no specs for it, that's kind of difficult to predict. Would also like to stream SF5 so probably need a core i7
HD: 250GB SSD for boot and at least 1 TB for storage

I was looking at this one but I wasn't sure if there was a better deal out there: http://www.sagernotebook.com/customize.php?productid=778

I appreciate any help. :)

Good laptop. With that budget you'd be cheating yourself to not go with the GTX 980M.

Also, if you go with the 4790K, you'll need the 330W adapter.
 
Or you could let him decide on the pros and cons, and not point him to a reseller with a large increase in customer complaints lately.
Pro: almost as fast as a single 980M, with way more power consumption

Con: too thin for its britches, gets freaking hot

What value am I missing here again? Why go SLI with 2GB,128-bit cards?

A too thin machine with heat and SLI hassles deserves no consideration, when there are way better options on the table.
 
Pro: almost as fast as a single 980M, with way more power consumption

Con: too thin for its britches, gets freaking hot

What value am I missing here again? Why go SLI with 2GB,128-bit cards?

A too thin machine with heat and SLI hassles deserves no consideration, when there are way better options on the table.

It has 8GB SLI 965M, which are faster than a 980M. It also has G-Sync, which your linked Sager does not.
 
965M in SLI are at their best 10% faster than a single 980M, yet often slower. Scroll down to the gaming benchmarks, and only look at the Ultra marks. SLI just isn't worth the added heat, power draw, or utilization issues, when it's basically equal in performance with a cooler card.

970M SLI I can ride with, due to the raw power, but 965M simply has no upside. I could maybe understand, if the machine holding them was clearly cheaper than one 980M equipped, but that simply isn't the case either. What's the advantage?
 
Well, as soon as I post that, Lenovo has announced a new killer workstation lineup, they are packing Thunderbolt 3, the new mobile Xeons and new unnamed Quadros (likely Maxwell based). I'm guessing we'll be seeing new Precisions by the end of the year then.
Hi all,

I had a workstation laptop (Dell Precision M6600, Quadro 4000m, i7-quad) that I cherished and used daily over the last 2 years. It was included as part of my tuition for my game development master's degree. I recently had it stolen out of my car during a stop at a restaurant in Houston. I'm pretty emotionally devastated about the whole thing, but I'm looking at getting a replacement to ease some of the pain. I can't seem to find it new anymore, but I've seen refurbs available for $750 on Newegg. I figure instead of getting the same laptop I received 2 years ago I should maybe just get an upgrade.

Request details:
USA
$1000 (equivalent or better to my M6600 if possible at this range) - Up to $2,000 (for a serious upgrade)
Max size 17". Weight is less of a big deal as it will also double as my desktop. Plus I was used to lugging my M6600 around. I wouldn't mind a smaller screen if it reduced the price some.
Planned usage: Heavy use of Unreal Engine 4, Unity and possibly Maya. I also frequently edit videos in Premiere. Ability to play modern games at least 60fps/720. I had no problem playing the games I wanted to on my M6600 but I wouldn't mind a nice performance boost within my price range.


Check this out.....

M5000.jpg~original


Quadro version of the GTX 980M!
 
965M in SLI are at their best 10% faster than a single 980M, yet often slower. Scroll down to the gaming benchmarks, and only look at the Ultra marks. SLI just isn't worth the added heat, power draw, or utilization issues, when it's basically equal in performance with a cooler card.

970M SLI I can ride with, due to the raw power, but 965M simply has no upside. I could maybe understand, if the machine holding them was clearly cheaper than one 980M equipped, but that simply isn't the case either. What's the advantage?

There's nothing else that small that also has a 3K or 4K screen and G-Sync. It also has M2 drives in RAID by default driving up the cost. I think most people would see the benefit in those, though. Also one of the few Broadwell options at the moment.
 
840m is ok but no way will it max out last gen games at 1080p. Just Cause and Bioshock sound normal.
Make sure your Nvidia drivers are up to date.
Optimus works well but it often won't activate the GPU for some games which might be happening with Audiosurf. Right click the desktop, open Nvidia Control Panel, go to Manage 3D Settings, click the Program Settings tab, Add the audiosurf exe, and make the preferred graphics processor the NVIDIA GPU.
Also check your temperatures using something like HWMonitor, chances our your laptop is throttling as well.

Edit: better instructions.
Also reset all the compatibility things, they aren't needed and could potentially cause issues in the future.

Thing is, the GT 840M is only "modern" in the context of being built on the Maxwell architecture. Nvidia still has it positioned as their 'entry level, at least it's better than Intel's iGPU' card, with its 384 shaders , 64-bit bus and DDR3 memory. For comparison, the 860M has 640 shaders, 128-bit bus, with GDDR5 memory, and will max most last-gen games that aren't in the Crysis series.
I think I found the main problem. shockdude, you were right; forcing dedicated graphics for 3D apps did the trick. Now I can play Audiosurf flawlessly with high graphics at 1080p. Bioshock 2 still stutters but it's a lot more playable than before. Turning off the fancier graphics didn't boost performance much though. I can't say what difference it would make with JC2 since I uninstalled it.

Okay, so if it's a lack of horsepower, explain this. One, I tried JC2 on the absolute minimal settings and it still had stuttering. How the hell is a 5200U going to have a problem with that? I never maxed out JC2, only the most using Geforce Experience's recommended settings. Second, I was ACHIEVING 60 FPS a lot of the time with that game. Why would an entry-level graphics card be able to do that but just decide to have generally poor performance?

As another test, I installed Clive Barker's Undying as the oldest game. What's interesting is that in Direct3D the integrated graphics are the only option to use even after forcing dedicated graphics in Nvidia settings. Even with the 1080p patch-hack, I generally get butter-smooth performance, but sometimes it drops to 30 FPS when using that visibility spell or being attacked by werewolves. Probably the fault of integrated graphics pushing 1080p + modded textures. I wish I could solve that problem. But I think I got the gist of it solved!
 
Okay, so if it's a lack of horsepower, explain this. One, I tried JC2 on the absolute minimal settings and it still had stuttering. How the hell is a 5200U going to have a problem with that? I never maxed out JC2, only the most using Geforce Experience's recommended settings. Second, I was ACHIEVING 60 FPS a lot of the time with that game. Why would an entry-level graphics card be able to do that but just decide to have generally poor performance?
Your laptop is probably getting too hot, causing your CPU or GPU to underclock. This behavior is known as "temperature throttling," or just "throttling." Use HWMonitor (linked in my previous post) to check your CPU and GPU temperatures, and take note of the max temperature.
There are ways to override throttling, but it'd be good to know your laptop's max temperature first.
As another test, I installed Clive Barker's Undying as the oldest game. What's interesting is that in Direct3D the integrated graphics are the only option to use even after forcing dedicated graphics in Nvidia settings. Even with the 1080p patch-hack, I generally get butter-smooth performance, but sometimes it drops to 30 FPS when using that visibility spell or being attacked by werewolves. Probably the fault of integrated graphics pushing 1080p + modded textures. I wish I could solve that problem. But I think I got the gist of it solved!
Some games will incorrectly detect integrated graphics even if the Nvidia GPU is doing the work. Easy way to check is to open the Nvidia Control Panel, and at the top under Desktop check the "Display GPU Activity Icon in Notification Area." This icon will tell you which programs are currently using the GPU.
 
It has 8GB SLI 965M, which are faster than a 980M. It also has G-Sync, which your linked Sager does not.
It's 2x4GB, VRAM in SLI is not additive, no matter how much Gigabyte tries to spin it.
Also SLI tends to have issues that single cards do not, like microstuttering and the game needing a profile to actually support it (if it doesn't you are stuck running it with one card only).
Honestly between single card and SLI, single card is always the best option.

Check this out.....

M5000.jpg~original


Quadro version of the GTX 980M!
YES
There is a
surely extremely expensive
god, it's the Dell one even :D
 
Country: US

Max budget: $1300

Max size: 15" and I'd like to keep it around 5 lbs (2.3 kg) if possible, but would be willing to bend on this if it meant better cooling/lower noise.

Planned usage: Mostly just web browsing, word processing, youtube/hulu/etc, but I would like to have the ability to play games now and then. Doesn't have to be 1080p or the highest settings. 720p-900p, low-medium settings, solid 30fps would do. Most advanced games I'd hope to run would include MGS V and Fallout 4.

Whatever else you find relevant: Good keyboard, trackpad, and screen are essential. SD card reader would be big plus, though I guess I could just use a USB reader if needed.


So far I've been thinking about the Alienware 13 (i5, 960m). Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
If I'm trying to repopulate Steam games onto my new Y50 laptop, is it advisable to download multiple titles remotely from work and then install the batch when I get home, or should I be doing 1 download / 1 install : repeat for smarter HDD file placement?

Just remotely downloaded a whopper (GTA V - 60 GB!) and wonder if I should just wait until I get home and install it before moving on to another game or not.
 
If I'm trying to repopulate Steam games onto my new Y50 laptop, is it advisable to download multiple titles remotely from work and then install the batch when I get home, or should I be doing 1 download / 1 install : repeat for smarter HDD file placement?

Just remotely downloaded a whopper (GTA V - 60 GB!) and wonder if I should just wait until I get home and install it before moving on to another game or not.

If it matters to you, here's how to remove the Lenovo software that bugs you to install their other bloatware: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=29497693&sid=ddf3e32512932172454de515091db014#p29497693

That thread also mentions a fix from Lenovo for it, but I didn't see anyone saying it completely removed the behavior from their machines.
 
how good is the intel stick? on indiegogo there is a campaign with their own stick with a better overall specs which is the one i plan to get but if the intel sticks can do it in theory the indiegogo one should do it as well (better too)

i would like to use it for light stuff obviously, like watching stuff through VPNs (i dont want to VPN'd my router again or plug my laptop to the TV) and even reading comics/manga on it.

i know is not a laptop but how good are those Intel® Cherry Trail Atom chipset for the stuff i want to do?

link for those curious: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/computerstick-the-smartest-tv-money-can-buy--2/x/9327790#/story
 
So I've had my Y50 for a week now and I have to say I'm very impressed with the performance! Sure I know the GPU is as powerful as a 750 Ti but the CPU is a real monster! Runs all my games at 1920x1080 at acceptable frame rate with the right settings. Only negative with the computer is that it gets hot. I'm glad I changed the crappy HDD for my Crucial MX100. Makes a world of a difference
 
That Lenovo Thinkpad is sexy. It's what I'm looking for in a laptop, latest Intel, lots of Ram, sturdy construction, possible high-end graphics, etc.

Hopefully, Dell and HP have matching products.
 
If it matters to you, here's how to remove the Lenovo software that bugs you to install their other bloatware: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=29497693&sid=ddf3e32512932172454de515091db014#p29497693

That thread also mentions a fix from Lenovo for it, but I didn't see anyone saying it completely removed the behavior from their machines.
Just saw the gaf thread about this. Basically Lenovo messed with some Windows system files on some laptops for bloatware purposes and someone found a security exploit in it so Lenovo released some updates and tools to fix it. It affects a bunch of Lenovos, but it doesn't affect the Y50.
 
Update on my stuttering problems: Minecraft Windows 10 Edition is beginning to stutter from time to time and that is the last straw. I ran HWMonitor in the background with easy access and unfortunately nothing looks out of the ordinary. When a stutter happens nothing spikes. Temperatures average in the mid-60s (no change) and CPU usage maxes out at 50% on all 4 threads.

Laptop specs:
Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15
• Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
• Windows 10 Pro 64
• 15.6" FHD IPS LED 1920x1080
• NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
• 180GB SSD SATA III
 
Update on my stuttering problems: Minecraft Windows 10 Edition is beginning to stutter from time to time and that is the last straw. I ran HWMonitor in the background with easy access and unfortunately nothing looks out of the ordinary. When a stutter happens nothing spikes. Temperatures average in the mid-60s (no change) and CPU usage maxes out at 50% on all 4 threads.

Laptop specs:
Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15
• Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
• Windows 10 Pro 64
• 15.6" FHD IPS LED 1920x1080
• NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB
• 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
• 180GB SSD SATA III
Maxing out at only 50% on all four threads? That sounds like throttling. What clock frequency is the CPU running at?
Also open HWMonitor when a game is running so that the GPU appears, and check the GPU temps and clock frequency.

Mid 60s sounds like you could push the laptop a little hotter, but don't take my word for it. Look into a program called ThrottleStop to lock your CPU to max frequency regardless of temperature. Note the obvious potential for overheating damage by running the CPU too fast for too long, so check if other people have safely run their Lenovo Yogas at high temperatures first.

Edit: Did some quick research myself and couldn't find any relevant info. Looking at the laptop's exterior, it doesn't seem much different from any other laptop, so I think it would handle 80C fine.
 
Maxing out at only 50% on all four threads? That sounds like throttling. What clock frequency is the CPU running at?
Also open HWMonitor when a game is running so that the GPU appears, and check the GPU temps and clock frequency.

Mid 60s sounds like you could push the laptop a little hotter, but don't take my word for it. Look into a program called ThrottleStop to lock your CPU to max frequency regardless of temperature. Note the obvious potential for overheating damage by running the CPU too fast for too long, so check if other people have safely run their Lenovo Yogas at high temperatures first.

Edit: Did some quick research myself and couldn't find any relevant info. Looking at the laptop's exterior, it doesn't seem much different from any other laptop, so I think it would handle 80C fine.
I got some new important information. One problem is that the GPU is not showing up in HWMonitor, only the integrated graphics. I used Minecraft W10 for benchmarking. Surprisingly CPU usage is very low most of the time in the 20-30% category (I worked on a house, ran across the desert, explored a cave, etc.). However, when stuttering happens, CPU usage spikes up to the 50-70% range. CPU temperatures didn't look abnormal, mostly around 70 C with a few spikes up to 80 C. Even though the model says the 5200U is clocked at 2.2 GHz HWMonitor says it's fluctuating between 2.5 and 2.7 GHz. I also determine that, until now, Minecraft was using integrated graphics but adding Minecraft Windows 10 Beta to 3D settings makes it show up in the tray icon.

The second game I tried today was Tomb Raider and the results were WEIRD! One, absolutely zero stuttering after 15 minutes of playing. I haven't seen that with any game i've tried. I tried double buffering at 48 Hz and triple buffering at 60 Hz and still no stuttering. I wouldn't put my faith on it staying that way but vsync + double or triple buffering might be another key.

So what I know is that forcing the preferred graphics processor to the 840M didn't really do anything, CPU usage might be the key to stuttering, and vsync may alleviate it.

Last but not least here are my 3D settings. The drivers I've been using are 353.62. Are they known to cause problems with the 800M family?:
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I got some new important information. One problem is that the GPU is not showing up in HWMonitor, only the integrated graphics. I used Minecraft W10 for benchmarking. Surprisingly CPU usage is very low most of the time in the 20-30% category (I worked on a house, ran across the desert, explored a cave, etc.). However, when stuttering happens, CPU usage spikes up to the 50-70% range. CPU temperatures didn't look abnormal, mostly around 70 C with a few spikes up to 80 C. Even though the model says the 5200U is clocked at 2.2 GHz HWMonitor says it's fluctuating between 2.5 and 2.7 GHz. I also determine that, until now, Minecraft was using integrated graphics but adding Minecraft Windows 10 Beta to 3D settings makes it show up in the tray icon.

The second game I tried today was Tomb Raider and the results were WEIRD! One, absolutely zero stuttering after 15 minutes of playing. I haven't seen that with any game i've tried. I tried double buffering at 48 Hz and triple buffering at 60 Hz and still no stuttering. I wouldn't put my faith on it staying that way but vsync + double or triple buffering might be another key.

So what I know is that forcing the preferred graphics processor to the 840M didn't really do anything, CPU usage might be the key to stuttering, and vsync may alleviate it.

Last but not least here are my 3D settings. The drivers I've been using are 353.62. Are they known to cause problems with the 800M family?
Yeah the i5-5200U will turbo up to 2.7GHz if there's enough temperature headroom. Your CPU sounds like it's performing normally at decently high temperatures so I wouldn't worry about it, unless you see it plummet to like 800MHz.

Setting the preferred graphics processor to the NVIDIA GPU in Global Settings is not recommended as it decreases your laptop's battery life. If you care about battery life then set the Global Preferred graphics processor to Auto-select and use the Program Settings tab to set individual games to use the GPU.

Tomb Raider sounds good. VSync limits the framerate, which reduces load on the GPU, and it also makes games run more fluidly at the cost of input latency.

Your laptop is definitely gaming capable, if barely. The struggles with NVIDIA Optimus are what almost all of us have to deal with lol. Keep an eye on that tray icon.
 
Country: US

Max budget: $1300

Max size: 15" and I'd like to keep it around 5 lbs (2.3 kg) if possible, but would be willing to bend on this if it meant better cooling/lower noise.

Planned usage: Mostly just web browsing, word processing, youtube/hulu/etc, but I would like to have the ability to play games now and then. Doesn't have to be 1080p or the highest settings. 720p-900p, low-medium settings, solid 30fps would do. Most advanced games I'd hope to run would include MGS V and Fallout 4.

Whatever else you find relevant: Good keyboard, trackpad, and screen are essential. SD card reader would be big plus, though I guess I could just use a USB reader if needed.


So far I've been thinking about the Alienware 13 (i5, 960m). Any suggestions would be appreciated.

This.

how good is the intel stick? on indiegogo there is a campaign with their own stick with a better overall specs which is the one i plan to get but if the intel sticks can do it in theory the indiegogo one should do it as well (better too)

i would like to use it for light stuff obviously, like watching stuff through VPNs (i dont want to VPN'd my router again or plug my laptop to the TV) and even reading comics/manga on it.

i know is not a laptop but how good are those Intel® Cherry Trail Atom chipset for the stuff i want to do?

link for those curious: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/computerstick-the-smartest-tv-money-can-buy--2/x/9327790#/story

It'd be fine for the usage you described. Don't need a monster CPU to read comics.
 
What's the practical difference between the 4th gen and 5th gen i7s, broadly speaking? From a glance it seems that there isn't a significant jump in computational performance and that most of the advantages of the recent chips are related to power draw and such. Accurate?
 
No significant difference. I certainly don't see the decision between 4th and 5th to be something that's worth any serious thought.
 
Hey, I've been frequently playing games on this old ASUS laptop of mine with like the most minimal frames possible (20 fps Dota 2 hell yeah) and well, I'm in search of something more powerful.

Country where it will be purchased: USA
Maximum budget: 600-700
Max size: Uhhh, I'm kinda new at this, but I don't really mind something huge
Planned usage: 1280 x 768 resolution is the common reso i've been using for a while, but I wouldn't mind full screen 1366 x 768 reso. The most heavy spec'd game I would like it to play is Skyrim at least 30 fps at high settings and Borderlands 2 at 60 fps at high settings, if at all possible.


I'm really new to this so sorry if I seem a bit vague, but if you need more information, shoot me a PM and I'll be glad to give more info.
 
Hey, I've been frequently playing games on this old ASUS laptop of mine with like the most minimal frames possible (20 fps Dota 2 hell yeah) and well, I'm in search of something more powerful.

Country where it will be purchased: USA
Maximum budget: 600-700
Max size: Uhhh, I'm kinda new at this, but I don't really mind something huge
Planned usage: 1280 x 768 resolution is the common reso i've been using for a while, but I wouldn't mind full screen 1366 x 768 reso. The most heavy spec'd game I would like it to play is Skyrim at least 30 fps at high settings and Borderlands 2 at 60 fps at high settings, if at all possible.


I'm really new to this so sorry if I seem a bit vague, but if you need more information, shoot me a PM and I'll be glad to give more info.

What does the Asus have, CPU/GPU?
 
Copying from PC-GAF where I didn't see 2nd line in OP :(

Hey!

I know this is the PC thread, but I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on a laptop? My Mac has been shitting out for the past few months and crashing non-stop, running slow, etc - even after getting repaired multiple times. Think it's on it's last legs.

I'm looking for a new laptop, windows, mostly for school but also potentially for a few games that won't take a lot of resources (Dota 2, Rocket League on low, etc etc). I've narrowed it down to a few (goal is under $1000) and was wondering if anyone would give me some advice? I haven't built a PC in a few years and laptops were never my specialty.

Dell Inspiron 15 - 5547 (Worried about the onboard graphics on this one. Only a 4400 vs 5500 or more on the others).

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NF0IM5M/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Dell XPS Ultrabook

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RY4X8A4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

ASUS Zenbook UX303LA-US51T

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.313371600

ASUS K501LX-EB71

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YR6BMS2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Aspire V Nitro

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.MQJAA.002

As I said, mostly this would be used for Excel at school, Media (Netflix/iTunes), and maybe some Dolphin/Dota. I'm just looking for recs or comments. The ASUS K501LX looks pretty good because of the i7, 8 GB DDR3, and NVIDIA GeForce 950M. BUT, I don't know how that stacks up to the Intel 5500 Graphics that most of the others have.

Can anyone help? Thanks :D

Edit: One last thing - if anyone has extra experience with any of these touch pads, please comment on that. I have a mouse and would be using that for gaming obviously, but when I'm just watching netflix or listening to music I use the touchpad and LOVE the one on my Macbook. It's probably the best one I've had and the main thing I like about Apple devices. Thanks again^^
 
Hey,
I'm planning to buy a Laptop for University and need you help deciding for one ;)


Country: Germany
Maximum budget: 500€
Max size: 15"
Planned usage: studying, surfing, watching movies, no gaming at all (hope it's ok posting here although it says gaming laptop thread in the title)

Only other thing important to me is the fan noise should be as low as possible in that price-range
 
Hey,
I'm planning to buy a Laptop for University and need you help deciding for one ;)


Country: Germany
Maximum budget: 500€
Max size: 15"
Planned usage: studying, surfing, watching movies, no gaming at all (hope it's ok posting here although it says gaming laptop thread in the title)

Only other thing important to me is the fan noise should be as low as possible in that price-range

I'm in a similar boat, here. My lenovo broke down (casing issue, won't charge anymore) so I need a new laptop. Only difference is I prefer something with a lot of HD space (750GB or more) and room to upgrade RAM if needed. Hard budget of $700 USD, preferably less.

I'm thinking this unless someone has a better suggestion?
 
Just pulled the trigger on this MSI GS70 Stealth Pro-096 for 1599 (probaby about 60 bucks cash through cash back site, ebay and card) so about 1540 total.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GS70-St...-16GB-Memor-/291539847027?hash=item43e1210773

i think i may have a got a good deal on this :)

it is still up if anyone is interested



Intel Core i7-4710HQ 2.50 GHz
17.3" Full HD
16GB DDR3L
1 TB 7200 RPM + 768 GB (256 GB mSATA SSD x 3 RAID 0)
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 970 6GB

only downside being the red color but w.e i can deal with that and maybe the screen which i think is not IPS
.
 
Hey,
I'm planning to buy a Laptop for University and need you help deciding for one ;)


Country: Germany
Maximum budget: 500€
Max size: 15"
Planned usage: studying, surfing, watching movies, no gaming at all (hope it's ok posting here although it says gaming laptop thread in the title)

Only other thing important to me is the fan noise should be as low as possible in that price-range

I'm thinking about these two:
http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/acer+notebooks/acer+e5+571g+52t3
http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/erweiterte+suche/notebooks+erweiterte+suche/lenovo+b50+70+mcc3dge


what do you guys think?
 
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