MiniBossBattle
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Sim punishes blocked Honda headbutt with standing Light Kick. Much Damage.
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Sim punishes blocked Honda headbutt with standing Light Kick. Much Damage.
Isn't every fighter nowadays FGC-created in some sense? I mean it makes sense to poach talent from the FGC when making fighting games. Like we can attribute a lot of how SF4 and SF5 do/will play thanks to Seth and Combofiend. Why wouldn't those count? Sirlin headed up HD Remix and even Sakurai in his youth was a big Street Fighter head. Hasn't the Tekken and MK teams also tapped into the FGC for development help or has that only been bug/balance testing and community support?
Also, what is Fantasy Strike?
Also, what is Fantasy Strike?
SquirrelSoup
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What's wrong with Lambda that she's -that- garbage?
CountBlack
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aw man, after I lost to Velociraptor in the first round of pools (won the first 3 rounds ;_
, I was just praying that I didn't go 0-beef. What's funny is that the guy I had to play in losers I thought was the same Hugo player from your room, so when I saw him I was like gaaaaaaaaaaaaadamnit but then I noticed he had a UK accent and he had no idea who I was lol.
Dude I had to play in losers was terrible tho, right when he started the match with Ryu, he jumped backwards 3 times, put himself into the corner then threw a fireball. *dasitmane.gif*
..im just gonna talk about my Evo matches since I have time
2nd match in losers was against a Rufus player that lost to Velociraptor. He hit me with the *WewasallrootingforyouTyraBanks.gif against Velociraptor (few people in my pool wanted me to win that match :mjcry
ANYWAY, I started off the match eating every dive kick in the book. I was getting absolutely bopped. *sentinel j.S gif*, In the first round of the match, I had no health, already healed once and no meter. On his side he had almost full health and 3 ex Messiah kicks in the bank.my anti rufus tech dawg
the blackule factor dawg
What I noticed was that when Rufus has no meter and is on the defense he's pretty much just a giant chicken waiting to get plucked. Bait out a few ex messiah kicks and I'm in there.. as long as I don't get knocked down and stay clean with my Anti-airs
or jump back HP
3rd loser's match was against a Vega player. dude bodied me in like 40 seconds flat all together in the first match. He hit me with every single Vega gimmick in the book. I sat back and tried to understand what just happened, my cousin who was watching the match pretty much just told me "You're just sitting there and letting him do all the offense, I gotta pressure him back instead of hanging back and taking it"
shiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.gif I got offense for days b. I don't like to have to go Kangaroo mode but when I noticed that dude didn't know how to anti-air Elena's jump ins.. *dasitmane.gif*
40 high/low mixups later and that was a wrap.
tbh, I really don't mind the Vega matchup. I've played Zeus online a bit and won convincingly (online tho) and another really good Vega online who I went back and forth with.. and Noel Brown if that counts lol. So I'm confident enough in the matchup, but dude went straight Wolverine on me in the first match sheesh.
Then I had to play Crizzle a Viper player from LA (I think). First match came down to the wire, but I lost it. Second match wasn't even close. I noticed that I have no idea what to do against Viper's burn kick on wakeup. I know what to do now, but I really don't know much about that matchup. Probably should've went to Deejay tbh.
First and last time you'll ever hear someone say this.
CountBlack
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Probably. I just feel a lot more comfortable in certain matches as Deejay since I've been using him for so long. The Viper matchup with Deejay is probably just 5-5, but I have ex. Sobat vs Seismo's and upkicks vs burnkicks.
She has below average health, so it looks like Deejay actually does damage too.
DryEyeRelief
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If I wanted to learn more about 3s and super turbo, what would be the best resources?
Play 'Em
Find someone else who wants to learn at the same level as you and Play 'Em. Did this with 3S during EVO with a friend and had a great time.Also I'm pretty sure SRK has a 3S wiki. It also probably has good info in the actual forums.
CountBlack
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Vulva, I'm gonna try go to A&C tonight if you want to get some games in. Not sure what time I'll end up getting there but I'm trynna press some buttons
Sirlin's Yomi characters in his own fighting game. I don't know much about it since he's hid it behind a fairly expensive Patreon firewall, but it's designed to be more like Pocket Rumble than Street Fighter.
Dee Jay does have a few really good matchups, like vs Honda.
CountBlack
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I really don't like this matchup lol. I gotta call Honda's j.MP the Marshawn Lynch.
cause it cuts through the defense Kappa
Karsticles
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I never thought I would see Tager above so many characters.
Also, it's hilarious that they couldn't keep Litchi's boob out of her face portrait.
SolarKnight
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Damn, Azrael and Kokonoe really fell. What's wrong with them in this version? Haven't gotten to play it much yet.
Also Mu being so low makes me sad D:
notworksafe
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SRK's ST Wiki used to be very good. Don't know if it still is, I'd assume so though.
SKD notes Mu and Makoto might have room to go up.
Lambda just like doesn't do anything. The character is just outright terrible.
I don't know his reasoning, but AZ and KO are still pretty good. It seems like the upper tier characters are just better at creating situations in their favor and capitalizing off hits. For BBCP that makes sense to me at least, being able to contain situations and get good damage/conversions out of it is a sticking point.
That covers the main nerfs, yeah.
Again, whenever I talk about tier lists I do my best to interpret them from what I know. SKD responds to people and is American(read speaks English, is accessible) so you can always ask him for more detail.
Lambda just like doesn't do anything. The character is just outright terrible.
I don't know his reasoning, but AZ and KO are still pretty good. It seems like the upper tier characters are just better at creating situations in their favor and capitalizing off hits. For BBCP that makes sense to me at least, being able to contain situations and get good damage/conversions out of it is a sticking point.
That covers the main nerfs, yeah.
Again, whenever I talk about tier lists I do my best to interpret them from what I know. SKD responds to people and is American(read speaks English, is accessible) so you can always ask him for more detail.
Azrael lost invuln on Growler and had unfavorable changes to his rekkas, 2C, j.D, and probably a couple of other things too. Lost Sentinel Dump oki from midscreen rekkas. j.D increased knockback means 2D is the only midscreen air ender that keeps them at a reasonable distance. Reduced access to upper weakpoint = reduced threat from overheads = worse mixup.
Kokonoe gravitons got severely limited, on a stock system. Placing costs a stock, activating costs a stock. She can't control the screen nearly as well as before.
Reminder that TvC had this in the game.
https://twitter.com/ChumsKnifeblade/status/631261292561461248
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CMKwuNtWIAAwqml.mp4
https://twitter.com/ChumsKnifeblade/status/631261292561461248
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CMKwuNtWIAAwqml.mp4
ShinMaruku
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Sounds like an Arc Sys nerf. When they nerf you, you become fucking useless. :E
Good for Tager fans, if I played BB I would main him. Arcsys needs to work on buffing Pot too.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I never want to see A tier potemkin again.
Also keep in mind that BB's tier list for the most part are very close together
Also keep in mind that BB's tier list for the most part are very close together
Your right we need a S tier Potemkin.
I'll get my Potemkin back. ONE DAY.
Was it the GG producer who said that you don't want Grapplers top tier in a game?
Here's a vid about the 3s juggle system by Bafael.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHqWxxc2F4&feature=youtu.be&a=&app=desktop
Bafael has a lot of knowledge in general about the game. You can go through all his 3s vids and pick something up about the game.
This channel has all the secret stuff. And a pretty good video on charge partitioning
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo0wQKb0_pyDr6PWb4RFemA?app=desktop
I'm okay with this. Throw Venom up there too.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Venom I'm ok with. Pot I'd never want to see above B+
What's wrong with Pot? I havent followed Xrd much/play many 2d fighters these days. Been trapped in Tekken Tag 2 since it launched.
Valk is always going to be amazing with how he's designed isn't he?
Also what happened to Rachel and especially Tao to be that low? Just curious.
shaowebb
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I miss Volnutt...
Volnutt was one of the best partner characters for folks due to his ability to keep folks out and be annoying as shit. He was a great stance switch character with a lot of meter stuff. Great DHC guy to have around. Saw some pretty nasty Volnutt/Ryu teams back in the day. He also paired REALLY well with Tekkaman because the lariat assist could actually catch folks and extend the combo after a super. This meant that to get damage you could generally just spend 2 bars instead of ending combos with wall bounce into lvl 3.
Alex was on another level in TvC though. He could pretty well divekick pressure with the way he worked and with this grabs and damage he just kept the pressure on with any competent assist. Considering his health and damage output its no wonder Marn flopped from Tekkaman Blade to Alex.
UnluckyKate
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I missed Ken Borgard's stream. He mentioned a tournament last week end played on PS4 (Uk maybe ?) that had some problems ? Anyone has details ? Was it the PS4 versions at fault or other exterior problems ?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That's not low at all
Tao is top 10, she's really strong. Not low at all.
Rachel had the wind nerf. She can't control neutral and force situations the same, and she has to be far more conservative on mix up and conversions.
notworksafe
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VSFighting was this weekend and on PS4 iirc. I'd read that they were allowing CronusMax devices so maybe that complaints were about that?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
UnluckyKate
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Hum... Not sure. I will google the event and check eventhubs or shoryuken to see if there is any more informations about this
Elena
There was also a French tournament during VS.
They were using the ChonusMax at VS fighting. People just need to upgrade.
Just a guess, but it was probably the fact that the CronusMax cuts out after a few mins, so it has to be unplugged after every game. But at VSF5 everyone kept forgetting so you would get a disconnect pause mid round every couple of matches. I do not think anyone was penalised for it, it was just really annoying that no one was paying enough attention to remind people they had to reset. I think they were more on the ball on the Sunday, but certainly delayed everything on the Saturday
Karsticles
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Is there any logic behind why Sumo Headbutt is safer than Blanka Ball?
notworksafe
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Well I believe they announced the switch to PS4 at VS only a little bit before, like two weeks or something?
Yeah those things just cause more hassle than they are worth. I was trying to buy a Titan One to check out how they act in Tournament Mode but the manufacturer just raised the price from $60 to $100 so they'll stay banned locally until I can test them out.
SolarPowered
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If it did happen he'd probably be nerfed back down with the quickness.
The switch was official after EVO, so 3 weeks, I think. Still, I think the Chronus Max was a poor option.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yeah look at blanka's total package. Also blanka ball lands away from the opponent
I doubt that there are armor breaking moves. Armor breakers are in SFIV due to the Force Attack system. TvC also had armor breakers but that's another thing.
notworksafe
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Ya I agree. But I think the situation for arcade sticks is a little rough in Europe so I can't get too mad at not getting one in time. Next tournament, no excuse really.
Well technically any kind of command like throw or move can stop armor, not necessarily break it. Like Poison's "Love Me Tender"
https://youtu.be/O5twy_2fifs
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5E8E2A6415422B77
I think these are good starting points