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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO
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People can change a lot in 10 years, especially at older ages. My dad has gone from looking like Snake did in his 40's to how big boss looks in his 60's over just 6 years. Going grey is no laughing matter!
ZeroMaverick
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Broken Joystick
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Heh, wonder if there's a "Gray Fox" anywhere.
Most of Snake's staff consist of Mega Man X bosses.
I started playing Peace Walker again, and according to my old save, I last touched it two years ago. The similarities to MGSV, both in style and gameplay, are abundant. And Talkative Jaded Snake is better than Mostly Silent Player Avatar Snake. The direction, man.
I started playing Peace Walker again, and according to my old save, I last touched it two years ago. The similarities to MGSV, both in style and gameplay, are abundant. And Talkative Jaded Snake is better than Mostly Silent Player Avatar Snake. The direction, man.
Chakra_Khan
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Panzer Mammoth
Yeah. And from his (very good) portrayal of Ishmael early on, effectively being Snake Bauer, you were hoping for more ham moments for him to chew things up. Play to his strengths.
Remember when you fought a teenage girl in her underwear as a J Pop song blared in the background in Peace Walker?
I can think of maybe 30 things more insane than that in MGS V.
Hah. Mate, I've seen MGS4's ending once. Whole thing was total mince. I remember BB wheeling Zero out - but I have no memory of what BB said about him.
Which just made me realise - surely it's only Phantom Boss who knows that Zero was on BB's side? Only we have the tapes, including a tape where Zero visits BB while he's in his coma. So surely BB actually has no idea about any of this and still hates Zero based on the events of MGS3 - all the way up til MGS4.
... It sounds like you're playing the game too much. (I could be wrong.) You're making very valid criticisms, but they sound really exaggerated - possibly because you're playing so much? if anyone plays any game for 170 hours in a couple of weeks, they will start getting tired and only being able to see the cracks.
I said that when I meant story scenes. Cutscenes Big Boss, gameplay player. It's schizophrenic. Edit: and this relates to the age-old 'GTA protagonist' syndrome of open world games. Kojima is the first creator I can think of to directly address this issue. Directly, I mean - others have definitely touched on it or explored other relevant, related subjects.
Hah, yeah.
Snake - Volgin is alive through parasites, Quiet is alive through parasites, Code Talker is alive through parasites, you're mobile through physical therapy, Sahelanthropus is a walking nuclear weapon because of an element,
... Oh, but telepathy? Yeah, that's just telepathy.
This did strike me as bad at the time, in that tape.
BB would have to know about it to go along with Ocelot's plan to set up the Phantom. Along with all the other stuff like moving them to a hospital in Cyprus.
akidnamededdy
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Fuck off GamesRadar, THEY CUT THE FINAL BOSS AND MADE YOU PLAY THE TUTORIAL AGAIN.
Dick Justice
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Yeah, it just looks absurd. Shinkawa's artwork shows how Big Boss should look during this time period, but they just pasted his GZ face into TPP.
Gozer the Gozerian
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The whole plot point in the cut Episode 51 with Big Boss not able to see red and shooting Eli is interesting because that is already established in the existing game.
The first time you're prompted to treat a serious injury and reset your leg in the prologue you lose the ability to see red and all the blood splatters etc. turn white for a bit.
I believe this happens any time you get a serious injury in the game, but in my entire playthrough that only happened one time when I rolled off a cliff.
The first time you're prompted to treat a serious injury and reset your leg in the prologue you lose the ability to see red and all the blood splatters etc. turn white for a bit.
I believe this happens any time you get a serious injury in the game, but in my entire playthrough that only happened one time when I rolled off a cliff.
Dick Justice
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"B-but...the phantom pain...Kojima did it intentionally, right?...".
Yeah, it just looks absurd. Shinkawa's artwork shows how Big Boss should look during this time period, but they just pasted his GZ face into TPP.
He may have had a facelift while in Cyprus. Being in a coma for all that time must have upped his vanity.
MGS5 would be all about Vain Snake.
Dick Justice
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Tactical Manicuring Operations.
Dick Justice
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infinityBCRT
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We don't know how old Venom Snake is. Big Boss probably is a white haired dude at this point. And even then, Big Boss was probably dying his hair in the 70s let alone the 80s. And Venom is definitely dying his hair based on the fact that he could have blonde, red or black hair before the surgery.
Man, we called this days ago, that the 'It's bad because it's supposed to be bad' would find it's way into the media. I can only laugh.
Yeah, I know that. You're right. I just want to finish it, you know? Finish it and move on.
And I feel like a better game would still have me entertained rather than burned out at 100 hours. Whether or not I'm burned out I'm not sure what the point of all those repetitive side ops or all that waiting is. I also feel like it's not my fault that due to extended play I'm seeing all the flaws - if the flaws weren't there to be seen I wouldn't see them.
I'd love to join in on the plot discussion but I'm afraid I found it so unengaging that speculation about it doesn't interest me at all. Never thought I'd say that about a Metal Gear game.
Mechanized
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Why doesn't Miller ever get a robot arm or leg? lol
... I don't think that's right.
BB doesn't know about the hospital in Cyprus or anything. He just wakes up 9 years after the helicopter crashes, Ocelot comes in and goes, 'We moved you to a hospital in Cyprus to keep you safe. Cipher is still after you. Also FYI we made a non-genetic clone of you, he's in that bed there."
In the tape where Ocelot speaks with Zero, only Ocelot knows about it. It's totally clandestine. And I'm pretty sure Ocelot doesn't mention it to Snake when Snake wakes up from the coma in the 'Doublethink' tape.
I think it's all part of Ocelot's long running alliance with Zero which is established in MGS3, which Big Boss isn't necessarily aware of. I don't think BB knows, at any point, that Ocelot is in touch with Zero.
He says why near the start. He says he doesn't want to rely on machinery like that. And more importantly he wants to indulge in the phantom pain so he never forgets what XOF have done.
Kenzodielocke
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Well, he doesn't want to.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Big Boss on the bike looking exactly the same as he has looked for the last 20 years is fucking moronic because he's supposed to be going into hiding.
How are you going to hide from people while keeping all of your most recognizable physical traits (eyepatch, beard, hair)?
He should've been clean-shaven with short, graying hair after removing the bandages.
Because he don't want to. Later in his life he probably got himself a grill for an leg and a giant spatula as arm.
Kojima loved Big Boss too much, even to the point where he made a duplicate to keep the real one in prestine condition.
Kojima was Ocelot all along.
Speaking of, fucking Ocelot has gray hair and Big Boss doesn't.
Crossing Eden
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People are really reaching to try and justify the fact that a dude didn't finish his magnum opus for whatever reason. And then this bullshit to try and come up with a way to justify repetition and rehashed missions.
Like holy shit some are just too desperate to admit that mistakes were made during the development of the game.
Apparently relying on robotics turns you into a douche destined to get cuckolded by your offspring. Miller ain't having none of that.
Kenzodielocke
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Sn4ke are you in denial phase again ?
I am just kidding.
Ocelot was blonde, like his mother.
cuz CIPPPPPPPHHHHHHEEER...
Messypandas
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All on motherbase including Miller are infertile now anyways. So there's that.
Miller probably gets some robot limbs later on considering he trains Solid Snake. You'd think Snake would ask about what happened.
Also I'm trying to think who has the most dialogue in the game. It's got to be either Miller or Code Talker. I think if you string all the text together where Code Talker talks about the parasites, it's longer than most movie scripts.
Also I'm trying to think who has the most dialogue in the game. It's got to be either Miller or Code Talker. I think if you string all the text together where Code Talker talks about the parasites, it's longer than most movie scripts.
Ghost Slayer
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I wonder if Kojima worked on MGS 6, what crazy shit he could add into it?
Oldest Snake
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Release date announced unexpectedly.
Trouble between Kojima & Konami surfaces.
Turns out he's been burning through their money and not delivering.
His entire team are getting the boot once the game releases.
Game releases with half baked story, repeated mission and missing content.
Actually guys this is the way it was meant to be all along. O Kojime.
are people actually saying this
there's still a fuck load of content in this game and it's easily worth $60... the problem is the story is untold and the end of the game is a clear clusterfuck that I can only assume has to do with those final, awful days kojima and team had to endure under konami
Heh. That is laughable coming from people that justified Destiny as a finished product and one of the greatest games ever made.
Kenzodielocke
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Gamesradar doesn't even know what the name of the game is. It's V not 5.
Messypandas
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Anyone who implies MGSV is left part unfinished to inspire phantom pain in you deserves a kick in the nuts.
What if you have phantom nuts
funkystudent
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Same.
Even a few grey hairs would have worked wonders to set that up. H
The box art looks like it has some grey hairs in it but could be dust or sand or something.
I guess technically the medic is younger and they can write around that but for Big Boss himself it would have been nice if they changed is appearance a little.
akidnamededdy
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"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad. Unless it's by Hideo Kojima, then it was the plan all along! Praise Kojima, amen."
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