|OT| Hillary Clinton testifies before the House Select Committee on Benghazi

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balladofwindfishes

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Interrogations this long shouldn't be allowed. This is just attempting a classic interrogation trick of exhausting the person until they admit something just to go home, whether it's true or not.
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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Someone should set up a Benghazi Hearings Challenge for charity this holiday. The higher the donations, the longer the challenger has to watch the hearings on loop.
 
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Jenov

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Christ, how much longer is this going on? They're closing in on what, 10 hours? Cruel and unusual punishment at this point.
 
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Obrek

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Nice to hear a Republican ask at least semi-cognizant questions, and ones I don't think I've heard in the last hour.

Edit: and then it was ruined
 
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Diablos

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Imagine if this goes on for 12, 14 hours. Even the current 10 hours.

Makes for potentially negative press when folks on the fence about Hillary read "Benghazi panel grills Hillary for 12+ hours." It shapes their opinions. In a world where people just react to headlines it can make them think she's in deep trouble.
 
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vas_a_morir

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Brawndo Addict said:
Some politicians say vaccines cause autism, others disagree. Therefore, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Some politicians say global warming is a myth, others disagree. Therefore, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Science and independent evaluations are the tools of sheep.
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Hey man, I know exactly how you feel. I can sense the frustration in your tone, and it's perfectly validated. Republicans often evoke spiritual paradigms and 'common-sense' to support completely unscientific positions, and it's one of the most frustrating things about America. I used to be frustrated by conservatives and venerated liberals, too. I saw binary good and bad, and I scarcely understood that in politics, people always owe. Obama owed. Bernie owes. Hillary owes. And they gotta pay what they owe.

There are a lot of external forces that coerce our leaders to take a position that they otherwise wouldn't believe in order to earn political points or better funnel resources to their benefactors. The problem is you seem to believe that I meant that both sides of an issue are equally correct. That is not what I'm saying at all. I'm a voter, too, and I vote on the side that I feel has a more complete understanding or vision of how to best govern on any particular issue. I say the answer is in the middle because I have been let down enough times to realize that everybody is lying to you in order to manipulate you into supporting them. Not necessarily in a nefarious way, but it's how the job works.

In my opinion, misleading rhetoric is always wrong, and every politician does it. The ends do not justify the means. The questions are never as simple as "Should we vaccinate' or 'should we not.' It's more like 'should we vaccinate for THIS, or This?" and if you are a administrator or legislator that owes their livelihood to a campaign supporter, acquaintance, former business partner, mentor, donator, or your constituents, you will almost always try to find a way to please them. If you have a pharmaceutical company located in your state that makes a vaccination for a disease that is scarcely understood nor really that big of a public health threat, you'll push for it. What's worse, you'll push to stop legislation or administration that would benefit their competitors in another state. It happens all the time. Robert C Byrd made his career by funneling pork into WV and keeping all his benefactors and constituents pleased. Not hating, because I'm from the area, but all decisions had effects on private enterprises and came at the expense of other projects and beneficiaries.

So, you think minimum wage should go up. A standard progressive populist policy stance. The other side says 'it shouldn't go up at all.' Why, maybe I believe it should! Yeah, the debate doesn't end there. Should it go up to $10? $12? $15? $17? Is raising minimum wage so correct and righteous that all discussion of probable negative affects on employment and rate of inflation should be disregarded as 'unscientific?" Of course not. There are way more ways to think than just 2. Always. Our politicians speak in absolute rhetoric in order to inflame passions and inspire loyalty. It's their job. But, they rarely give candid explanations of the cost of any particular legislative or administrative decision.

So, my point is not that both sides are equally right... it's that there are always more than just 2 sides to an issue, and you do yourself a great disservice to throw in 100% on what a legislator or administrator is saying without keeping an open mind and considering the validity of arguments that make you feel uneasy or unsafe.

TL;DR: I'm cynical and grizzled. May your faith be rewarded like mine has never been.
 
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Vire

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Has she explained why she chose to use a private server for her personal emails rather than going through a sanctioned governmental agency server?

I have not watched all day.
 
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Brawndo Addict

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I've got in on in the background but I refuse to turn it off before it naturally ends. I can't imagine how tense I would be if I was actually there and having to answer questions over 9 hours as opposed to passive listening.
 
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ivysaur12

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Diablos said:
Imagine if this goes on for 12, 14 hours. Even the current 10 hours.

Makes for potentially negative press when folks on the fence about Hillary read "Benghazi panel grills Hillary for 12+ hours." It shapes their opinions. In a world where people just react to headlines it can make them think she's in deep trouble.
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You're Diablosing
 
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nib95

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Diablos said:
Imagine if this goes on for 12, 14 hours. Even the current 10 hours.

Makes for potentially negative press when folks on the fence about Hillary read "Benghazi panel grills Hillary for 12+ hours." It shapes their opinions. In a world where people just react to headlines it can make them think she's in deep trouble.
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Absolutely. It's abuse. Outrageous tbh. 10 fucking hours of this publicity stunt.
 
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Wallach

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This guy sounds like he is not sure exactly what each word coming out of his mouth is going to be until it begins to pass through his lips. Excruciating.
 
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Brawndo Addict

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Vire said:
Has she explained why she chose to use a private server for her personal emails rather than going through a sanctioned governmental agency server?

I have not watched all day.
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It was for personal convenience but she says it was a mistake and they should not have done it, but still qualifying that previous office-holders like Powell have done.
 
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Quonny

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It's hilarious the number of times you hear "Well, actually, <some quick attack that can easily be refuted>, but let's turn to something else..."
 
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balladofwindfishes

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Diablos said:
Imagine if this goes on for 12, 14 hours. Even the current 10 hours.

Makes for potentially negative press when folks on the fence about Hillary read "Benghazi panel grills Hillary for 12+ hours." It shapes their opinions. In a world where people just react to headlines it can make them think she's in deep trouble.
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The public thinks this is being done entirely for political reasons

The media is also already starting up with the narrative that the GOP failed to shake Hillary, even after a 10 hour long gauntlet of madness.
 
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