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Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
- Thread starter Edge_Maverick
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Prove what wrong?
I asked if we had any proof that FF7 was the PC game & not the PS1 game & someone said the fact that it was called a port was the proof that it's the PC game, & I said "Technically recompiling PS1/PS2 games to be playable on PS4 in HD with trophies make them ports."
Just to clarify, this one is a port, not running under emulation.
Consumer
Member
It wasn't sarcasm, but it's also not completely due to trophy addiction. I have fond memories of the PS2-era, but I've already experienced it & now I actively seek new gaming experiences. Platinum trophies would've helped the games feel 'new' since earning them is an exciting challenge & I get to add more plats to my collection.
It's fine to not be into trophy hunting, but there's no need to attack the hobby. I play games that are fun & new -- if they're not both of these, I won't play them. And like I mentioned above, the PS2-era is not new to me; I still hold memories of that era and have little desire to return to it unless I can complete new challenges, adding a few plats to the collection in the process.
I'm not gonna go into a huge debate with you about trophy hunting, but it's a fun hobby for those that enjoy challenging themselves & building an impressive collection of achievements that they can look at and take pride in. It also adds many hours of replay value to most games.
I just don't feel the need to revisit old games that won't live up to the nostalgia unless I can at least get a few plats out of it -- big deal.
stan423321
Member
They are NOT recompiled though. If they were recompiled, there would be no discussion. What happens is that emulator has a module watching for specific events involving memory states and/or disc input requests and firing a signal to the OS when it wants to. It runs on top of the game.
It's honestly weird. The watcher is new work but it doesn't really affect the workings of old code too much, it just... watches. It's almost like an upscaler but for logic.
What really excites me is the potential for greatly improved performance and image quality. I've still got my last gen systems hooked up, so while BC would be convenient, it's not killer for my PS4 to lack it. I've also still got my PS2, but I have to turn it upside-down to get it to play games, and even then, they look like murder on my HDTV.
Having some classics running smoother and looking cleaner than ever on the big screen sounds awesome. Me and my friends still play the likes of CTR very often, but the PSN version runs like gravel on the PS3 in split-screen, and looks even worse. If the same improvements we've seen to the PS2 games emulated thus far can also be applied to PS1 games, well... I can't wait.
It's feasible that PS1 games could be even more enhanced, since the task of emulating a PS1 would be far less demanding on system resources, and as such it would free up more system resources to be dedicated to enhancing the visuals. They could be increasing the internal rendering resolution beyond 4x, lock the framerate at 60fps for titles with unlocked framerates, and perhaps provide some kind of advanced image post-processing.
2blackcats
Member
Not that I don't want that to happen but why do you think that wasn't done last gen? PS3 would have been plenty powerful. Hmmm.
Aceofspades
Banned
Sony's story was that they were trying to preserve the look of PS1 games as much as possible. The PS2 had more options to improve how PS1 games looked than the PS3.
I think Sony ran into some problems with actually selling PS3 games early on, I recall publishers complained that people were using it as a cheap blu-ray player and advanced PS2 instead of buying the iffy launch window PS3 titles. Sony was struggling on many fronts so improving the look of PS1 games may have been too much work for too little return.
This would be great if I could use my existing PS2 library... 100s of discs.
Unfortunately this is going to be a case of reselling the games again. I get why, I understand, etc., but fuck that. I have a lot of rare games that will never see the light of day on any store.
I'm a bit salty because my launch PS3 died, and I really enjoyed playing PS2 games on it. I have my slim PS2 hooked up and ready to go any time I'm in the mood.
Think about it: Shadow Hearts 2, Skygunner... hell even Baldur's Gate 2 Dark Alliance... you aren't going to see these games on the store.
If Sony introduces something where I can put my PS2 disc in and rip the game to my PS4 HDD, I'll be ecstatic. But they aren't going to make any money that way...
Unfortunately this is going to be a case of reselling the games again. I get why, I understand, etc., but fuck that. I have a lot of rare games that will never see the light of day on any store.
I'm a bit salty because my launch PS3 died, and I really enjoyed playing PS2 games on it. I have my slim PS2 hooked up and ready to go any time I'm in the mood.
Think about it: Shadow Hearts 2, Skygunner... hell even Baldur's Gate 2 Dark Alliance... you aren't going to see these games on the store.
If Sony introduces something where I can put my PS2 disc in and rip the game to my PS4 HDD, I'll be ecstatic. But they aren't going to make any money that way...
I think it pretty much it. They had far bigger challenges to deal with at that time.
Now? They're on top of the world, and dedicating resources to creating another differentiator for their platform, something that no one else can offer, makes a lot of sense.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It is still emulated, using Code Mystics' (re-formed Digital Eclipse) FOCAL technology which allows for analysis and changes to emulated code:
http://www.codemystics.com/technology.shtml
I mean, they sure didn't hunt down the original SNES source code and recompiled it for PS4/Vita now, did they
Hades Hotgun
Banned
With a rock solid 60 fps and high definition to boot. This is why PSX could be amazing.
Pretty much same situation.
The PS2 is exciting to me because of the weird niche shit that won't ever get releases.
They were forced to speak about it because of the Digital Foundry articles, gave the minimum amount of information possible, and have their own conference in just over a week where the focus is exclusively on them.
They will 100% speak about it.
biglittleps
Member
They may announce like its coming but i doubt we'll be able to play classics this year other than star wars. We might see this in next year early big PS4 firmware update because current emulation is still in beta and might not have reached to a level where they can release with good compatibility for several titles.
mejin
Member
Well, it's not really the same situation we see on XB1 BC. I don't think it's possible for sony to reproduce what you want.
I didn't actually think about that, but boosting PS1 games to full 1080p, locking FPS and post processing could indeed be in the cards if they are supporting PS1!
Hostile_18
Banned
What ever happened to Final Fantasy 7 PC port for the PS4!? It's like a year and a half since it was announced. Has the remake cancelled it?
It's been less than a year, but yeah it is massively late, the iOS port has already come out and that was announced after the PS4 port.
Common theory is that they'll come on stage at PSX, show FFVIIR material, and say the PS1-PC port for PS4 is available NOW.
Hostile_18
Banned
Ah my bad I was thinking it for announced the E3 before last. It's a shame it's taking so long surely the further away from Remake the better.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I imagine we will hear more at PSX. The announcement was met with a lot of vitriol but I've actually been wanting to play it lately lol.
Hostile_18
Banned
.lolosgolos
Banned
In this thread? Because this is a better than nothing situation imo
Acquiescence
Member
I'm pretty done with trophy hunting these days, but the prospect of Burnout 3: Takedown with a platinum has me salivating. I'll take any excuse to get all the gold medals in the greatest arcade racer ever again.
Never played it on the PS2 though. Probably looks a bit worse compared to the Xbox version, but performs around the same hopefully.
Never played it on the PS2 though. Probably looks a bit worse compared to the Xbox version, but performs around the same hopefully.
They are both nothing compared to the technical wizardry of the 360 version of Burnout Revenge, but i'd take Burnout Revenge PS2 in HD emulation any day on PS4
stargateheaven
Member
It's worried me that FF12 HD will just be the emulated ps2 version. That would be fine normally but it won't be the Zodiac version...
All the previous SE remasters have included the Final Mix/International content.
Rest assured, we'll get FFXII IZJS HD.
The Elite
BOSS
You know that thing where the thumbnail for a game in the PSN store sometimes shows a different game? Maybe it is nothing but I have only ever seen the glitch for games available on the platform the glitch is on. This is on PS4.
This is a very promising glitch that we will see something soon.
The worst announcement would be that they have PS2 Backwards Compatibility and it will be launch at E3.
Good fucking god...
If they let us play our favorite PS2 disks with this type of emulation, it would be the GAMECHANGER of all GAMECHANGERs...
I don't knkw about tou, GAF but I never get rid of my old games. Still have over 500 PS2 games with discs ready to be played via emulation. I'd love for thr PS4 to at least play PS1 and 2 discs as a start. I would want to replay Shinobi, Dark Cloud series, DQVIII, as thats the definitive version graphics wise and the Shadow Hearts series.
The Elite
BOSS
Where can I buy a PSTV for $20?