graffix13
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I kind of like the possibility of Rey not being related to anyone, and at the end of IX, her and a redeemed Kylo get together and continue to Skywalker lineage.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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I kind of like the possibility of Rey not being related to anyone, and at the end of IX, her and a redeemed Kylo get together and continue to Skywalker lineage.
Nothing that we know of, so far. I think it's just that their romance was based on passion and less on compatibility, since even though Han is more "mellowed out" by RotJ he's still a smuggler at heart, and Leia's still a hardass Rebel/Republic die hard. I can easily see them drifting apart as the Republic forms, with Han unable to shake his criminal ways while Leia becomes more and more involved in Senatorial duties and/or Jedi training. There was an old article from before we knew very much where Driver talked about Kylo Ren's story revolving around neglect and a lack of love, so their own troubles probably spilled over into Kylo's life, and then him joining the Knights probably was the breaking point.
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I wonder if he's heard the jokes about this trilogy possibly following in the OT's footsteps because of him.
I'm sure he has. I would be willing to bet some of his buddies have made that exact same joke.
He probably knows he was hired because of it.
Jurassic World was a fun, bombastic movie. No way it was ever going to be Jurassic Park, but it was fun.
He's not writing episode 9, but even so, it's not like it's going to be Star Wars as directed by Michael Bay or Zack Snyder.
Trevorrow has a few years to get even more films under his belt, but for the type of movie I'm thinking 9 is going to be, his popcorn style may work out in the end. Films are big productions, made by a lot of people. The director has a role of course, but it's never a one man show.
Besides, the cast he's working with for episode 9 is already leagues above the cast he worked with in JW (and I really like Bryce Dallas Howard and Chris Pratt.).
He's not writing episode 9, but even so, it's not like it's going to be Star Wars as directed by Michael Bay or Zack Snyder.
Trevorrow has a few years to get even more films under his belt, but for the type of movie I'm thinking 9 is going to be, his popcorn style may work out in the end. Films are big productions, made by a lot of people. The director has a role of course, but it's never a one man show.
Besides, the cast he's working with for episode 9 is already leagues above the cast he worked with in JW (and I really like Bryce Dallas Howard and Chris Pratt.).
MistressMoitie
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So Kylo is basically confirmed through leaks as their son, right? When do you think they had him? It's interesting that their love story took a decidedly not so happy turn. It's not what I would have thought years ago as a kid when I watched the OT for the first time, but as an adult now I can kind of appreciate the realism.
Have I missed anything crucial regarding the trio (Luke, Han, Leia) that has been revealed in the latest comic book entries? I want to be caught up on the canon lore, as my mind always seems to wander to the Timothy Zahn books as those were my favorite and I know that they mean nothing in regards to official stuff now.
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Every movie is a popcorn movie/Bobby
Lol. Some more than others, I think...
I was 13 when Jurassic Park came out. There's no way that movie was going to recapture that point in my life, so I just sat back and enjoyed the absurd dinosaur movie in front of me, and cringed at the forced love story.
But what do I know? I also enjoyed Abrams two Star Trek movies, and I'm a fan of both wars and trek.
Badlucktroll
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i thought Snoke was going to take the form of a giant snake? like, rancor sized.
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So Snoke is Sheev, right?
Has to be.
Who else?
Has to be.
Who else?
Most of the post-RotJ canon so far has not dealt with the Big Three except incidentally. Of the stuff that's been released, this is more or less what we know:
In the Shattered Empire comic (which takes place with a range of a few days to a few weeks after Endor), Han leads his special ops team from RotJ to raid some more Imperial bases and they uncover evidence of Operation Cinder, a fuck-you-for-winning, burn-everything-down contingency plan set in place by Palpatine (via recordings of himself passed on to commanders through special droids) where the Empire goes around and just carries out massive attacks against planets as retaliation. Leia is on the newly liberated Naboo negotiating with the new queen to have them join the New Republic when Operation Cinder begins there, with the Imperials using some kind of crazy weather array system to cause global catastrophies across the planet. Leia, the queen, and the Rebel pilot Shara Bey (Poe Dameron's mother) use Naboo starfighters to try to destroy the array and do so with backup from the Rebel fleet led by Lando. Luke, meanwhile, is doing his own thing and infiltrates an Imperial research facility to steal back two Force-sensitive branches that are the last thing that remain from the tree at the center of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, and he gives one half to Shara Bey, who plants it on Yavin IV.
In Aftermath, which is 3 - 4 months after Endor, Han and Chewie head off to Kashyyyk to help the Wookies liberate the planet.
That's about it.
In terms of Kylo, assuming it's him in the armor that we see in that rain scene from the trailers, which is during the Academy attack, he had to have been a teen at that time, probably at least 15 or so. I'd imagine he was born fairly shortly after the end of the OT, within a few years at most, similar to Jacen and Jaina.
Check out the canon thread if you want to see the list of all the current canon stuff. It's growing pretty large already but it's not so unmanageable as the old EU that you can't jump in.
Snoke kind of reminds me of Gouda from Ghost in the Shell SAC.
I like the white aesthetic. He has kind of a Lucifer motif. It also somewhat answers why the First Order would follow some weird alien. He definitely looks more human than I imagined, and perhaps he actually is human. I can't wait to see how Serkis plays him.
Though I'm a bit disappointed he's not a giant snake man. Like when he talks he could hiss ("Join the dark sssssssssside!") and maybe he has a huge lightsaber that he wields with his tail. Maybe next trilogy.
I like the white aesthetic. He has kind of a Lucifer motif. It also somewhat answers why the First Order would follow some weird alien. He definitely looks more human than I imagined, and perhaps he actually is human. I can't wait to see how Serkis plays him.
Though I'm a bit disappointed he's not a giant snake man. Like when he talks he could hiss ("Join the dark sssssssssside!") and maybe he has a huge lightsaber that he wields with his tail. Maybe next trilogy.
A friend asked me today, "do you think Snoke will have a lightsaber? I want him to fight Luke." I honestly don't think he will. Kylo (and maybe the other Knights) are probably going to be the antagonists of almost every duel in the ST, I think.
What would be really awesome is if the Kylo came back to the Light Side (or even became just neutral) by the end of 9 and became the true hero of the trilogy. If Snoke has to have a lightsaber, it should be wild and too powerful like Kylo's, and when they clash shit goes OFF.
What would be really awesome is if the Kylo came back to the Light Side (or even became just neutral) by the end of 9 and became the true hero of the trilogy. If Snoke has to have a lightsaber, it should be wild and too powerful like Kylo's, and when they clash shit goes OFF.
1) Can someone point me to whatever was the big leak in here? Y'all alluding to it but what actually is it?
2) Is "Force Sensitive" even a thing? I thought that was just some retcon shit that just got attached to remarkable heroes. "Han did the Kessel run because he's Force Sensitive" is the sort of thing that doesn't actually mean anything.
2) Is "Force Sensitive" even a thing? I thought that was just some retcon shit that just got attached to remarkable heroes. "Han did the Kessel run because he's Force Sensitive" is the sort of thing that doesn't actually mean anything.
kaiju
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From the sound of things, we never see him leave his throne. He's likely too ancient and fucked up to use a saber. I see him going full Force Magicks on shit, although wasn't there a picture of Serkis with a staff of some sort?
Think it is this one here
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Han's not Force sensitive. Force sensitivity means someone is attuned to the Force, they can commune with it and use it. Han did the Kessel run in less than less than 12 parsecs because he's a.) a really good pilot or b.) he was just lying.
Force sensitivity has been tied to certain individuals or bloodlines since at least RotJ, whether people like that or not, and the prequels clarified that it's related to your midichlorian count (microscopic organisms in your cells that have a natural link to the Force). The more midichlorians, the more potential you have. Anakin Skywalker had the highest known midichlorian count of any living being.
So it looks like they are going to be embargoing the press that do in fact go the the premiere Monday night.
Wonder what collider guys are going to do, they have been hyping up this review video they are going to do after the movie on Monday.
Between that and the Snoke thing I am interested on if they are going to try to do any damage control between Saturday and Monday
Wonder what collider guys are going to do, they have been hyping up this review video they are going to do after the movie on Monday.
Between that and the Snoke thing I am interested on if they are going to try to do any damage control between Saturday and Monday
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The Force Awakens has been written and executed to essentially work without you needing to know anything about Star Wars at all. You haven't missed anything.
Besides which, nothing you'd consider "crucial" is ever gonna be left to the comics/novels.
They're just gonna pretend it never happened and wait for the 30k people who noticed to eventually move on. Although this should leave a little bit of a mark on 'em going forward, because it was pretty bush the way they handled it.
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Probably a dumb theory, and probably someone out there has had it already, but what if the Force trees from Shattered Empire have something to do with the Force "awakening" and spreading to new people? I mean, supposedly the Journey media is supposed to contain "clues" to things that will happen in the new trilogy.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLe...sion_of_an_alleged_spoiler_is_kylo_ren_blind/
Kylo blind?
Alright so it's not going to happen, but I actually would have liked the idea of a blind force user. They were in the old EU, could be a cool thing to bring back in one of the comics or even films at a later date. Do Miralukas still exist or naw?
I like some of your ideas, and as I said, hope that Finn has some FS.
I don't buy that Kylo is ever turning to the light though. I feel like Adam Driver was cast because he is particularly kind of awkward (At least in the few things I've seen him in), I think he'll be evil throughout.
Unless they are planning on a last minute Vader-esque turn before his death....which, after killing Han and injuring Finn, has to happen.
Kylo blind?
Alright so it's not going to happen, but I actually would have liked the idea of a blind force user. They were in the old EU, could be a cool thing to bring back in one of the comics or even films at a later date. Do Miralukas still exist or naw?
I like some of your ideas, and as I said, hope that Finn has some FS.
I don't buy that Kylo is ever turning to the light though. I feel like Adam Driver was cast because he is particularly kind of awkward (At least in the few things I've seen him in), I think he'll be evil throughout.
Unless they are planning on a last minute Vader-esque turn before his death....which, after killing Han and injuring Finn, has to happen.
Thanks!
lmao http://starwars.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_Han_Solo_force-sensitive
I don't know why I thought that was a thing. I guess the only non-Jedi that gets their skills explained as Force Sensitivity is Anakin the Podracer? Sure there are all kind of midiclorian-having people running around untrained who have exceptional intuition they can't explain or whatever.
EDIT I remember why I thought this was a thing. I was conflating Han Solo and Atton Rand.
There are plenty of non-Jedi Force sensitives, because the Jedi are just one order of Force users. There's the Nightsisters, the Bardottans, the Sith (obviously), random people who just never ended up in an organization, etc. But Force sensitivity is relatively rare in terms of the galactic population.
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You guys are so cool. Thanks Bobby and Sphagnum!!
And Sphagnum, your response took time and I really appreciate it. It's times like these that I really love gaf. Can't wait for next week.
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Snoke kind of reminds me of Gouda from Ghost in the Shell SAC.
I like the white aesthetic. He has kind of a Lucifer motif. It also somewhat answers why the First Order would follow some weird alien. He definitely looks more human than I imagined, and perhaps he actually is human. I can't wait to see how Serkis plays him.
Though I'm a bit disappointed he's not a giant snake man. Like when he talks he could hiss ("Join the dark sssssssssside!") and maybe he has a huge lightsaber that he wields with his tail. Maybe next trilogy.
Nice comparison. Gouda is one of my favorite villains, too. Not one of my favorite cheeses, though.
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Most of those Knights of Ren weren't using sabers in the trailer. Not sure if that means they just aren't exclusive to force sensitives, or if they just all decide to use different weapons, or what.
I'd like to see what the darkside can throw at people besides lightning. If anything, it would help vary the action set-pieces.
This is about to be one long week lol
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Oh, and since people are talking about new Dark Side powers, the most obvious magic power I want to see is self-levitation. Luke levitated C3PO in Jedi, but I want to see a main villain do some Ganondorf from OOT shit. I'm fact, I basically want all of Ganondorf's powers, but on a Star Wars villain. Energy blasts. Self-levitation. Transmorgification.
I want Snoke to be able to turn into a giant, horrible demon in Episode IX.
But no, self-levitation is great sorcery imagery. Vader did it in Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
I want Snoke to be able to turn into a giant, horrible demon in Episode IX.
But no, self-levitation is great sorcery imagery. Vader did it in Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
What did he mean by this?
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Why spend time and energy to come up with a new Emperor type character....when you can literally reuse the chimpanzee from the original trilogy?
It's the ultimate poetry!
That's true. I heard speculation a while ago that that scene was part of the flashback sequence and that at that point Kylo was the only one who'd build his own. It could go either way really. It would be kind of cool if each Knight had their own distinct weapon to give them a little more personality.
Force lightning-ball tennis pls.
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Let's get real: Force sensitivity is based on midichlorian count.
got this from r/Starwars
The theaters are getting their hard drives with the movie. (This one is an iMax master). Also lists the lineup of trailers that are attached (at least with this batch)
So close.
That would be neat. I hope some other members of the Knights of Ren will have more prominent roles in the next films. Perhaps some that even try to overthrow Kylo in case he becomes to "weak", casting him out when he starts to walk the path to the good side.
Secret Fawful
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That would be a lot of fun to watch as long as it wasn't dragged out, honestly.
Freezasaurus
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No problem, it beats doing what I'm supposed to be doing (working).
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Nice list.
Except for those last two.
Surprised at seeing Independence Day there, though.
Please give me lava throne room, JJ.Some what disappointed with Snoke's look. I was expecting more alien. Still looks really cool how he looks like Mcquarie artwork.
BuckRobotron
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I wasn't paying much attention to Kylo Ren but as these spoiler discussions gain steam he seems like he might be especially interesting to see how he evolves through the movies. If certain spoilers here are indeed true he'll certainly be gaining quite a bit of infamy from this first installment.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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Anyone have that fanart of an old Han, Leia, and Luke? It's got Luke in the middle with Han and Leia on each side, and Luke's got some pretty cool PT inspired robes
got this from r/Starwars
The theaters are getting their hard drives with the movie. (This one is an iMax master). Also lists the lineup of trailers that are attached (at least with this batch)
As someone located in Asia, I'm pretty sure we will not get any of those trailers. We never get to see the cool ones on the big screen.
Still, we do get the movie early on the 16th. I'll take that.
Yes, but isn't it the will if the force to give you more midichlorians so that you can sense it?
The Force still chooses you, we just know now how the links work.
I never get the good trailers at my local cinema in Germany either.
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