[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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Haloid1177 said:
I don't even know where to begin.
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Haha, man, it's not even worth arguing at that point in the list. Attack of the Clones has a couple scenes I like amidst the garbage, but when I watched the Phantom Menace re-release in theaters, I nearly fell asleep. I may even have for a couple of minutes. It's just boring to watch. The Holiday Special is, too, but it's also at least kind of fascinating.

EDIT: OH, I meant the movie, not the Clone Wars show. I like stuff in the show for sure, though it takes me a while to get to that stuff. The movie felt like Lucas blasted his colon in my face. I'll edit in the shows just for the sake of clarification.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
IT's gotten a lot more common than it used to be.

I mean, eventually everyone comes around and realizes I was right all along.
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Not this time, Bobby.

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Freezasaurus said:
So wait, are you saying that, comparatively, TPM is exciting shit?
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Parts of it are pretty fun. The podrace, even though its overly long. The lightsaber fight at the end.

All the fighting at the end of AOTC - after an hour and a half of deathly dull romance - is terrible. It's a proto-Man of Steel. Jarring mishmash of nothing happening, too much happening.
 
The Obi-Wan stuff in AOTC is great. I love the detective story he goes on. The Phantom Menace has the pod race and the final fight with Darth Maul. I find myself going back and forth on them at times.

The love story in AOTC is terrible. God awful. Just horrible.
 
wait people actually like the pod race?

I thought it sucked with that announcer that sounded like a typical race announcer from america. He just sounded so out of place.
 
nynt9 said:
I feel like that will upset fans. For how much fanservice/callbacks/"rhymes" this movie seems to have, having barely any Luke in it seems like an odd decision.
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It's all about setting up for 8.Can't blow your load entirely in one film. Will leave people hyped up for Episode 8, that is for sure.
 
Kaneda Shotaro said:
Again, something doesn't make sense me still.

So Kylo wasn't separated, he killed everyone there. Okay, so Luke hasn't been hiding for decades, at most Luke has been hiding for 10-12 years after his students were murdered.

So if they were murdered 10-12 years ago, Kylo was 16-17 when he killed everyone? Seems strange still that he was so tall and already wearing that out in the rain "image" Maz shows him. What this tells me is that vision she shows isn't exactly what happened but again more of just a vision, implying yes Kylo killed them.

And they mention this saber is newly constructed. How can that be when he killed everyone 10-13 years ago? Unless he used his light side saber to kill everyone and made a new one himself only recently.

The fact is, Luke has been in hiding for a very long time which means the school has been destroyed for a long time which leads to Kylo being young when he did it and that means he used a different saber to do it. Which is why Maz's "vision" is just placing people where they were but Kylo Ren wasn't exactly Kylo Ren back then, he Han's kid with a saber. This is just showing the audience it was him without giving away his heritage in the film.

To;dr: There's no way Han's kid is wearing the Kylo Ren outfit or using that saber if Luke has been in hiding for a long, long time if he was responsible for taking down the school with or without help (the kid would've been 15-17 at the oldest). Which leads to Maz's vision showing the truth in its own way, not a literal flashback.
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The visual dictionary leaks are making it seem much more likely that Maz's Castle used to be the location of some big Force wielding persona that left his Force stink on the place. Instead of Maz giving Rey the "flashback" we are instead going to get Rey being drawn deep into the catacombs to have her own version of Luke's Dagobah Cave experience - then Maz is going to try to explain it to her.

So if we are talking Force Cave 2.0 then it's not so much a Flashback is it might be a bunch of past/future/emotions wrapped up into some sort of nightmare for Rey.

This sounds much more plausible and in line with Empire than Maz having some ability to make you see the past.
 
nynt9 said:
I feel like that will upset fans. For how much fanservice/callbacks/"rhymes" this movie seems to have, having barely any Luke in it seems like an odd decision.
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It's the one reason I'm happy I spoiled this movie because I'd have been crushed not knowing about it ahead of time. It does make me super excited for VIII though. Probably more than I am for TFA.
 
Haloid1177 said:
It's the one reason I'm happy I spoiled this movie because I'd have been crushed not knowing about it ahead of time. It does make me super excited for VIII though. Probably more than I am for TFA.
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Same. I just hope it doesn't end on a note that basically feels like sequel bait and feels self-contained.
 
nynt9 said:
Same. I just hope it doesn't end on a note that basically feels like sequel bait and feels self-contained.
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Based on the shot list we dont see Luke to the very very last shot of the movie as Rey walks up the steps then BOOM its Luke's face and credits role.
 
FloatOn said:
wait people actually like the pod race?

I thought it sucked with that announcer that sounded like a typical race announcer from america. He just sounded so out of place.
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It goes on too long, and Greg Proops' announcer is kinda annoying, but it's one of the few moments in the film with any actual dramatic tension.
 
doop_ said:
So how did they find the falcon. Anyway it looks really nice, name has a ring to it.
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That's the one plot point I'm curious to see an explanation for. If it turns out that Han's long-lost niece just stumbles upon the ship he's been searching for, for years, and then they immediately cross paths, that'll seem pretty silly. I hope there's some kind of justification, and ideally something other than "The Force did it."
 
R2 hasn't spoken to anyone since Luke disappeared and is basically shut down? That's actually really sad. It's like the dog episode from Futurama.
 
Inferno313 said:
That's the one plot point I'm curious to see an explanation for. If it turns out that Han's long-lost niece just stumbles upon the ship he's been searching for, for years, and then they immediately cross paths, that'll seem pretty silly. I hope there's some kind of justification, and ideally something other than "The Force did it."
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I think one such solution is he has the freighter and the falcon, someone steals the falcon, Han can't track it down. Rey, not knowing how to navigate space, hits the "auto-pilot" or "return home" button and bam.
 
Inferno313 said:
That's the one plot point I'm curious to see an explanation for. If it turns out that Han's long-lost niece just stumbles upon the ship he's been searching for, for years, and then they immediately cross paths, that'll seem pretty silly. I hope there's some kind of justification, and ideally something other than "The Force did it."
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Citation needed
 
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