[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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Kinda disappointed that
Kylo Ren is Han's son
I wish they didn't resort to the same twists and plotlines ...
This movie's twist will kinda be "I am your son" , well not really but for the audience it will be.
I wish the whole universe didn't revolve around one single family.
I wish they didn't resort to the same twists and plotlines ...
This movie's twist will kinda be "I am your son" , well not really but for the audience it will be.
I wish the whole universe didn't revolve around one single family.
Yeah me too. Really can't wait to see what he's gonna do with these characters.
Secret Fawful
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BossDarkseid
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You don't have to tag stuff and...the core movies may make it seem like a small galaxy but they've been upfront from day 1 about the core films being about Skywalkers/that saga.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Quick question, I know Rey wins a fight or two, as does Poe (at least a dogfight)...
But does Finn win a single fight in this film? I mean, on his own.
But does Finn win a single fight in this film? I mean, on his own.
The main Star Wars films have always been about the Skywalker family and friends.
I would not expect this to change, if there will be yet another sequel trilogy (i don't see Disney stopping making SW films after this sequel trilogy).
Inferno313
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The "whole universe" doesn't, but the mainline "saga" films always will. Kathleen Kennedy has said as much. The story of Star Wars IS the story of the Skywalkers. Good stories don't center around things or ideas, they center around people.
Also, you don't have to tag spoilers in here.
This film includes plenty of characters that don't have familial relations to past characters, (at least, as far as we know), Poe Dameron, Finn, General Hux, Captain Phasma. Only 1 member of the cast is a confirmed descendant of past characters, with probably 1 more to be revealed later.
bengraven
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I have a feeling he's going to be playing into Rey's parentage in 8. "They left you, like they left me, they don't care about you, I can take care of you and together we'll rule the galaxy as brother and sister or cousin and cousin or something strangely in the middle and kind of sexy in a weird, 18th century gothic novel way".
I would have chosen a different wording, triggered is utterly overblown given the topic (two cut scenes at best) at hand.
It is called space opera for a reason.
If i had to choose, I would be fine with Rey being Luke or Han's daughter. With Kylo just being a former apprentice of Luke who's gone rogue.
But we're probably getting both ..
Secret Fawful
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Yeah, I should have said annoyed. Well, now I know for future reference.
CassidyIzABeast
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Hell, MSW said a few months ago that he takes it off when he interrogates Rey.
Secret Fawful
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That's true. I doubt I'll care about those shots or even remember they existed after Friday.
Especially the Maz handing the lightsaber to Leia part. Because it has no real significance anyways. They obviously just used it for something to have in the cut when Luke says "my sister has it".
Anyone else kind of disappointed with the Knights of Ren? They are essentially Darth Vadar fanboys, right? I mean, I like Kylo's design and all but... having a group of impressionable, "edgy" dudes worshiping the personality cult of Darth Vadar is not my idea of the main antagonist in a new Star Wars trilogy.
Yeah,
but what are the chances that the well being of the entire galaxy constantly hinges on the same bloodline family - and a cycle of a good egg turned bad with a purposely hidden/orphaned savior occurs back to back generations?
So, the true hero?
BossDarkseid
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They're not, though? Apart from Kylo do we actually know if the other Knights of Ren are as Vader-obsessed or just Snoke's lackeys?
Kitschkraft
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The bait and switch on him...pretty frustrating.
Obviously having read the spoilers I expected him to be second to Rey, but he's really sounding like a non-entity at this point.
I feel like they kept promising that this was gonna be all about the new cast....but it seems that's not true after Rey.
Hopefully Han's death leaves more room for him in the next one.
Inferno313
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Not sure how legit they are, one guy has a screening invitation as his proof, and one guy doesn't provide any kind of proof, but there are two reviews in this Reddit thread.
Both much more positive than the previous reddit review.
Not sure what the one guy means by the deaths of all the hyped up characters, I'm leaning towards BS for him.
Both much more positive than the previous reddit review.
Not sure what the one guy means by the deaths of all the hyped up characters, I'm leaning towards BS for him.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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Yeah, its pretty shitty. Been rooting for Boyega since it was announced that he made the short list for "lead jedi male". And with this series' amazing track record of developing secondary characters I really don't see much hope for Finn
Since when is this true and since when does one exclude the other?
Inferno313
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Point to a story that succeeds while lacking any well-written characters.
Based on the context, I'm willing to bet that he meant to say "dearth" as opposed to "death".
In other words, these hyped-up characters are rarely used.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Honestly? 1984.
There is such a thing as plot driven stories, even stories focused more on things and ideas. It's just that a lot of them are short stories.
More_Badass
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Asked that Reddit guy about the fights and if they were comparable to the OT fights vs prequel
Jack Remington
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So any confirmation from someone who has seen the movie that Han dies?
LegalEagleMike
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I think people expect too much screen time for every character. Lots of hardcore Star Wars fans love Boba Fett and he barely did anything in the movies. Phasma and others will probably have some good scenes throughout the trilogy but the story is never going to center on them.
Moff
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there is a pastebin a few pages back, yes, which adds some new stuff but mostly confirms the call sheets, and yes, han dies in that one, too.
if you are looking for celebrities who expose on twitter that han dies, then no, they would very likely be lynched for that
Yautja_Warrior
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So does Han shoot 1st in this one?
Surely JJ and his crew didn't miss this trick and gave Han a scene that's a nod / jab at the infamous change to the classic scene.
Surely JJ and his crew didn't miss this trick and gave Han a scene that's a nod / jab at the infamous change to the classic scene.
I think you missed my point. You said "Good stories don't center around things or ideas, they center around people."
My point was "Good stories center around people things and ideas." not something along the lines of "Good stories do not feature well-written characters." That is just absurd.
There were rumors we see Chewie rip someone's arms out their sockets too.
Don't know these were validated.
Inferno313
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Right, should've been more clear. I'm not saying a story can't explore ideas and things in-depth, but that the fundamental core of nearly any story is the characters. If you don't have good characters, you won't have an audience stick around to hear about the ideas or things.
My larger point in that context was to say: "Star Wars isn't, at it's core, about space battles, galactic empires, or any of those things, it's about the characters."
kaiju
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And a figure set. I need these dudes on mah shelf!
Nothing more than that. Source was one of these "I saw TFA" threads on reddit a month back.
BossDarkseid
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I need a good quality Kylo Ren w/Crossguard Lightsaber ignited statue that's...about 11"-13" tall. My friend has a weird obsession with some $350 Phasma one he saw.
CassidyIzABeast
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A true hero. Reminded me of Sam because of his willingness to stand up for his friend no matter who or what is that's standing in his way. Definitely a hero, just never gets the victory clean at least in this movie.
Jack Remington
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Seems like there's considerable doubt that the pastebin was written by someone who actually saw the film though.
Kitschkraft
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I am concerned. The "comedic buddy" angle is being stated a lot. This is the last thing I wanted him to play.
Hopefully his arc feels more apparent when actually watching the movie.
I feel like what we've been told doesn't seem to match up at all with those book spoilers. I wonder if they are going to play loose and fast with his supposed "top 1 percent" background.
Ending up in a coma (I still can't believe this) means that, unless he wakes up off-screen between movies...he'll probably not have much growth between 7 and 8. I was at least hoping that he would have been working his way up in the resistance or something. If he DOES wake up off screen then...what was the point?
He apparently blast the shit out of that stormtrooper about to kill Finn (With Chewies crossbow). I believe there is meant to be some callback quip to "good blaster at your side" here, or some mention of Han preferring the bow now, or something like that.
I don't think there is now.
Lights and Waves
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I wonder if Lando is mentioned at all in this film. Why wasn't he asked to reprise his role?
No statues in the works but the Hot Toys figure just released in Hong Kong. I am waiting for Sideshowtoys to get mine in.
I can't recall many movies about ideas not featuring atleast one character to begin with, except some documentaries.
Kitschkraft
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Honestly I'm kinda glad he wasn't in it now. Seems like there was already too many characters competing for screentime.
He was at the red carpet last night and showed interest in being in the next ones (As he has said in the past).
kaiju
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He was asked this last night at the premiere. He's not in this film but he was asked if he'll be in the next one. I believe his reply was, "We'll see".
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