Liquidsnake
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I was gonna say something, I didn't understand where the nastiness came from.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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I was gonna say something, I didn't understand where the nastiness came from.
digoutyoursoul
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I rewatched A New Hope today, for all the shit Lucas gets I thought he did a brilliant job with that film, its not faultless by any means but it's got charm, charisma, good pacing, the characters interact with each other well, and a terrific score. R2D2 is adorable in it. I hadn't watched it in a few years and I was reminded by how much i loved it today, if FA can match some of that I would be content.
We got a full review here.
He gave it a 7.5 because it's too much like A New Hope and complains about the story.
He gave it a 7.5 because it's too much like A New Hope and complains about the story.
Secret Fawful
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Actually, for the score and criticisms, that's a pretty positive review.
Story: 5/10
Yeah, I was afraid of it being too iterative. But it is the Skywalker Saga right?
This will be interesting. Wonder how many reviews will dock it points for being too similar? I understand some people having issue with it but I don't know in the grand scheme if it'll be seen as a negative. I have a feeling most moviegoers will be ok with it?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Seems more likely that Kylo is just a wuss. Also, what Luke did with his X-Wing in the original was "impossible".
EroticSushi
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Seems this will be the common complaint in regards to the story. I'm curious though. In what direction can they take it without it being too similar while also trying to be faithful?
Freezasaurus
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He stops blaster bolts with the force. Have we even seen anyone do something like that? Even Vader just deflected shots.
Every Sith we have seen has had a moment of over confidence where they were struck. Vader against Obi, Maul against Obi, Palpatine with Vader, Dooku with Anakin. It's their biggest flaw. And maybe he's just straight up surprised by something Rey does.
We'll see in a year and a half
Probably a DC mark.
Inferno313
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This is probably pretentious of me, but pardon me for not caring what some site I've never heard of called "Geekster" has to say in an embargo breaking review.
Call me when the A.O. Scott and Michael Phillips of the film crit world have weighed in...
Call me when the A.O. Scott and Michael Phillips of the film crit world have weighed in...
Secret Fawful
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Man, I really hope Syriel is wrong about the soundtrack being the film's weak point. That's the thing I care about the most with the movie, next to Boyega.
That's tough because with this movie I always thought it would have a very familiar feeling. This movie needs to repair the damage that was done by the 3 previous ones.
It's why I said earlier that I think your moviegoers may like the nostalgia and callbacks. So I kinda knew they'd retread some plot points etc. This movie is to set up everything else. Now with the sequels they can do anything. You can't have a complete retread.
There was that movie at the beginning of the year, something about a Max being mad.
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I don't know how much of a problem, if at all, it actually is.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Vader dissipated them with his hand. And is that even in the movie, or just in that book?
I dunno, you can be faithful without repeating exact plot structures. Regardless of what you think about Lucas, he for the most part made pretty different Star Wars movies that still felt like Star Wars.
(... I'm fully anticipating someone bringing up the Death Star II or some other repeated element as proof of how I'm wrong now.)
Embargo is only for print I believe.
I just assumed his armor tanked the shot although I think the EU says he used Force Absorb or some nonsense.
I accepted a while ago that it was basically going to be a remake of A New Hope. I was worried about retreads ever since we got the first rumors about the starkiller. I'm just hoping that Episodes VIII and IX are more original. I still wish that Lucasfilm had used Lucas's outline and notes for the Sequel Trilogy. I would have liked to have seen where he would have taken the series.
That's my main concern for it. Too same-y and relying on nostalgia to get people to watch.
Inferno313
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No, Collider and other blogs have said they aren't allowed to post theirs until midnight tonight.
Grover Cleveland
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People are going to howl to high heaven about the nostalgia factor considering that's a major complaint about nu-Trek. That was the first worry I saw people bring up when Abrams was announced.
Ok.
Not Spaceghost
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Two of my friends who do blogging for movies in lebanon just got to see it, they said they cant talk about it till midnight either (not sure which time zone but they signed a paper) but they said it was a lot of fun.
Hot damn dude, you're too film school for your own good.
TheKaeptain
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We just need Variety to say fuck it like they always do and break embargo. Then the floodgates will open.
So that site did break the embargo, I knew this would happen.
Maybe she's a Palpatine.
Liquidsnake
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Probably into the toilet.
LMFAOOO
Pop-O-Matic
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Kind of hope that Rey's actually another baby that the Force just conjured up like Anakin.
CassidyIzABeast
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Gotta respect my local theater's hustle for only having matinee showings for the 3D version of the movie.
More_Badass
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Honestly I don't think it's a problem that this movie borrows a lot from A New Hope. The current generation has ANH of their own now. Maybe if you're like super invested in the movies, it feels like a retread but there are countless others who are being introduced to Star Wars for the first time.
Basically it's only a negative if you're nostalgic about the older movies. IMO at least
Basically it's only a negative if you're nostalgic about the older movies. IMO at least
digoutyoursoul
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I love a new hope and hearing that comparison doesn't give me a negative vibe
bigwinnerx
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I've spent the past few nights reading The Star Wars graphic novel and I'm ready to see yet another play on similar themes and story beats.
Bobby Roberts
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Probably not the precise answer you're looking for:
1) Star Trek
2) The Force Awakens
3) Mission: Impossible III
4) Into Darkness
5) Super 8
ANH came out almost 40 years ago. I have no problem with it borrowing from it. There is always going to be a dilemma of how you create drastically different stories in this same universe while keeping the feel of Star Wars AND introduce a bunch of new characters.
I expect some crazier stuff from Rian and Colin.
I expect some crazier stuff from Rian and Colin.
Yeah I mean that was definitely the worry I had when he was revealed as director. I get he's a huge fan but that might be the biggest problem.
Sounds good to me.
George didn't want to make movies for the fans anymore. And we got attack of the clones.
I'll take fanporn over soap opera Dick Tracy any day of the week.
CassidyIzABeast
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This is the closest they could get to rebooting Star Wars without scaring away the diehards by using the r-word.
I can already tell Trevorrow is going to be just as bad if not worse. Johnson save us.
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