[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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Afrocious said:
So the green saber was a new one in Ep 6? I thought the reason it was green due to the color showing up easier on film or something.
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"I see you have constructed a new lightsaber". With the implication that making your own lightsaber is the final test of Jedi training (before the PT has them handed out to four year olds).

The reason for the green saber was indeed to make it stand out better against the blue sky on Tatooine, but it was always going to be a new saber.
 
JobenNC said:
If that team consists of "many Bothans" we already know how it ends.
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You can tell these guys don't give a shit about many Bothans dying.

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JJ set things up perfectly with VII for Rian Johnson to mess around with things and try new/different ideas in VIII. It makes me all the more excited to see what he'll put these characters through and what new worlds and species we will be seeing. We really could get something incredible with him.
 
I teared up during a few parts...

opening crawl
R2D2 losing the will to live
Han and Leia meeting back up again/their theme playing
Han's death - which even though I knew it was coming it hit me pretty hard ;-;-;
the ending scene
probably more scenes


Overall the movie was pretty good but I don't know if I would place it above any of the original trilogy.
 
That OT is crawling with massive hyperbole like most figured it would

Best Star Wars ever
Better than Fury Road
Force Awakens cured my STD
etc etc etc
 
Talk about the bowcaster brings up a nitpick: Han asked to "try that thing out". It sounded like something someone who's been around each other for a few minutes would say, not a life time.
 
Mega said:
I don't know and I don't care about Finn and reeducation because it didn't happen. I moved on with the rest of the story. Apparently you did not and this stormtrooper killing thing affected you in a bizarrely deep manner.

Anyway I feel we're not on the same page. What gave you the idea that all stormtroopers were once kidnapped babies? I think they're a conscripted army and come from all over the place like Empire during the OT era. This was established very early on in Eps IV when Luke willingly wanted to go off to train as a pilot for the Empire, same as Biggs and his other Tatooine friends.

Like a poster said earlier, you seem REALLY wound up and in need of having every single thing explained to your satisfaction. I didn't catch your earlier posts, but I'm guessing you "hated everything." Chill out.
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Luke wanted to join the Rebellion not the Empire. And, the prequel trilogy destroyed what we originally thought about Stormtroopers before this movie destroyed them further. You seem to be confused as this is one of those parts I didn't need explaining, from the OT everyone just assumed the ST's were Space Nazis. We didn't need to be told about them being Clones or brain washed babies, we assumed they were recruits that believed in the Fascism of the Empire. Now, we are being told that they or at least some of them are brain washed babies that undergo "reeducation" at the sign of any hint of resistance. This further change once again paints them in a more sympathetic light than them simply being Space Nazis.

I suggest you read my original post to see my complete thoughts on the movie.
 
Dimmle said:
The movie did sag quite a bit at the "new cantina" bar with unexplained mystic goggle lady.
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I rather liked Lupita's character myself. Plus that section where Rey finds Luke's lightsaber and has all of those visions of the past/present/future was one of my favorite moments in the movie.
 
BronsonLee said:
With her powers at full strength, she stands alone

She is

THE FRIENDZONE GIRL
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I feel certain we'll meet again...FRIEND. *forehead kiss*

Dreams-Visions said:
What a movie.

Wanted more of Phasma. I'll take more of her in the next film.

It was everything I could have hoped and a little more.
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That's a good point -- she's probably still alive after being garbage chute'd. Hopefully she gets a longsword next time around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73V1eBm0fgY
 
Kagari said:
I teared up during a few parts...

opening crawl
R2D2 losing the will to live
Han and Leia meeting back up again/their theme playing
Han's death - which even though I knew it was coming it hit me pretty hard ;-;-;
the ending scene
probably more scenes


Overall the movie was pretty good but I don't know if I would place it above any of the original trilogy.
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Those got me too. Glad I'm not the only one.
 
foxtrot3d said:
Am I crazy or did anyone else secretly hope that the rest of the OT cast (Leia, C3PO, R2D2, Han, Chewbacca) were killed off except for Luke?
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No. You seem to have no awareness of what franchise suicide means if you really wanted that to happen. Same as the people sitting around logically wondering why we have Death Star-like weapons, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, a Vader-esque villain, etc. You should all get together and write a book: How to Run a Lucrative Franchise into the Ground, Alienate the Masses and Bankrupt Yourself.
 
a Master Ninja said:
Just got back...I'm not sure I liked it. I mean, it wasn't bad, but something about it felt...not Star Wars.
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The biggest thing I felt like... there was this really forced feeling in a lot of scenes. Too many forced cameos or callbacks or something. It didn't feel natural.
 
Mega said:
No. You seem to have no awareness of what franchise suicide means if you really wanted that to happen. Same as the people sitting around logically wondering why we have Death Star-like weapons, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, a Vader-esque villain, etc. You should all get together and write a book: How to Run a Lucrative Franchise into the Ground, Alienate the Masses and Bankrupt Yourself.
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So for pointless nostalgia we as the audience must be a slave to the OT cast and repetition? Hey, how about this new trilogy stand on its own with its own new cast of characters? You should write a book entitled "How to Milk a Lucrative Franchise into Dust, Tire Out the Masses and Bankrupt Yourself." I said it in my initial post but when KOTOR can tell a better SW story, that invokes all the feelings of the original, than the actual new movies with a completely original cast and story then you've got a problem.
 
Why is no one talking about the Knights of Ren? Seems like a badass force to be reckonend with in future films. Kinda shocked at some of the backlash already occurring, but that's to be expected with this big a movie.
 
My only issue with this movie, and I mean sincerely as I absolutely loved it, was the ending sequence had a bit too many cuts to it. It felt a bit rushed with missing dialogue.

But you don't want to get into the Lord of the Ring territory on both film length and too long of an ending sequence.

Main question I have - Did Han and Leia know she was Luke's daughter?

You could see a tinge of guilt in Han Solo's face when she said "I never knew this much green existed in the universe."

And Leia's embrace with barely knowing about her.
 
foxtrot3d said:
Luke wanted to join the Rebellion not the Empire. And, the prequel trilogy destroyed what we originally thought about Stormtroopers before this movie destroyed them further. You seem to be confused as this is one of those parts I didn't need explaining, from the OT everyone just assumed the ST's were Space Nazis. We didn't need to be told about them being Clones or brain washed babies, we assumed they were recruits that believed in the Fascism of the Empire. Now, we are being told that they or at least some of them are brain washed babies that undergo "reeducation" at the sign of any hint of resistance. This further change once again paints them in a more sympathetic light than them simply being Space Nazis.

I suggest you read my original post to see my complete thoughts on the movie.
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We're done. I'm clearly talking to someone who knows nothing about Star Wars nor about the nature of the Stormtrooper army. You don't know BASICS, man.
 
Meowster said:
I rather liked Lupita's character myself. Plus that section where Rey finds Luke's lightsaber and has all of those visions of the past/present/future was one of my favorite moments in the movie.
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I assume they'll do more with her (...did she live?) or else that throwaway line about not having time to explain why she has the most important light saber in the galaxy will feel really strange a couple movies down the line.
 
a Master Ninja said:
Just got back...I'm not sure I liked it. I mean, it wasn't bad, but something about it felt...not Star Wars.
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I feel you. I can say I liked it a bunch, but I felt it didn't do enough to try to be its own thing in the second half. The whole Starkiller machine had me like 'whatever'. I knew, from that point, we'd get the same beats from A New Hope.

As weird as it may sound, it felt like someone trying to make a Star Wars movie by shoving all this stuff in folks who have seen the movies know as being in them.
 
ACR0019 said:
Why is no one talking about the Knights of Ren? Seems like a badass force to be reckonend with in future films. Kinda shocked at some of the backlash already occurring, but that's to be expected with this big a movie.
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We live in a cynical age This movie was magic my friend and if they can't see it, all I have to feel is pity for them. My heart is full.
 
Enter the Dragon Punch said:
Finn was trained as a killing machine from birth and Rey is force sensitive, possibly even a Skywalker if speculation rings true in episode VIII. Also, Kylo is still in training and was probably mentally off guard thanks to his own conflicts over killing his father.
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Ithil said:
Finn is trained in combat, Rey is Force sensitive and skilled with her staff, and Ren was badly injured by Chewie shooting him. He also wasn't trying to kill Rey during their part of the fight.
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If he's trained in combat why was he acting like he didn't know how to use weapons when he was escaping with Poe at the beginning of the movie? And even if he was trained in combat how was he immediatley competent enough to use a lightsaber (albeit not perfectly) when he's just a storm trooper?
 
Tabris said:
My only issue with this movie, and I mean sincerely as I absolutely loved it, was the ending sequence had a bit too many cuts to it. It felt a bit rushed with missing dialogue.
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I loved the movie too, but I thought the helicopter shot to close the film was kinda shitty.
 
Kagari said:
The biggest thing I felt like... there was this really forced feeling in a lot of scenes. Too many forced cameos or callbacks or something. It didn't feel natural.
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Only callbacks that felt forced to me was the board game on the Millennium Falcon popping up randomly and when Finn found the ball thing that Luke was using to train with Obi-Wan. Oh and when Han said "I've got a bad feeling about this". Didn't feel natural at all.
 
Rean said:
Can someone explain to me how Fin and Rey were able to fight Kylo Ren and actually put up a fight when he apparently had training?
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Maybe Rey was one of Luke's new jedi-in-training, before the program was disbanded after Kylo Ren turned.

But I don't think Rey's talent is too surprising - Anakin and Luke, for instance, are naturally gifted with the force. Anakin was considered far too old to begin the jedi training, and he was constantly frustrated at being held back by his superiors because of some slight to his relative age/inexperience. Luke was basically what Anakin should have been, and he became a jedi with very little one-on-one mentoring, in a much shorter time, which kind of gives credibility to anakin's feelings.
 
Had no idea the Han death was coming (until of course Ren said the line about needing his help). It's kinda fucking with me. It sort of soured everything that came after it.

I always said I didn't know how I felt about a new trilogy since now we'd know how Han dies, how Luke dies, etc. Our minds were just left to wonder for 32 years. Now we have finality.

Though there's obviously about 25 years of Kylo Ren's history that we haven't seen, I felt like he hadn't "earned" the right to kill one of the most iconic characters in the films.
 
Kagari said:
The biggest thing I felt like... there was this really forced feeling in a lot of scenes. Too many forced cameos or callbacks or something. It didn't feel natural.
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I feel like, for me, it was hard to notice that while watching it opening night in a stadium full of fans ready to cheer at every reference. I wonder how it will play when I'm watching the Bluray at home. All those nods will certainly feel... off.
 
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