[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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MadLaughter said:
Saddest death in the movie:

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RIP you beautiful bastard. FN-B4D455, you were the hero this movie deserved.
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I liked the little windows into Stormtrooper life. Never taking off the helmet, their "names," and the amount of loyalty they have (and, conversely, feeling of betrayal).
 
Anton Sugar said:
Anyone else feel like Driver was doing a little Anton Chigurh with his Kylo voice? I actually had to make sure he was a native English speaker when I got out of the movie :P

I don't mean that in a bad way--but when he takes his mask off the first time with Rey, you can hear some interesting enunciation in his voice. I really liked it.
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I didn't notice that but I did hear what sounded like a slight lightsaber "whoosh" noise added to his voice modulation.
 
emb said:
Definitely a thumbs up.

It was still just funny because you don't expect it from BB8, you don't think he can express himself with that kind of gesture.

That was my take on it, anyway.
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Nah it was definitely a middle finger. My whole theater cracked up at it too.
 
Future PhaZe said:
The fact that Leia sent Ben to Luke is also kind of telling--much like the EU, it looks it may have taken a while before Luke even decided he wanted to rebuild the Jedi, that or perhaps Leia and Han decided from go that Ben wouldn't ever be a Jedi--but were forced to when it was clear the force was having an impact on him in negative ways.
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If Snoke is a force user (and I suspect he is, given the talk about training), I'm curious if he reached out and was messing with Ben's mind for years prior to being sent to training.

It's possible that Luke realized what happened to Ben, and thus "locked out" Rey's force powers before dropping her off on Jakku, until Kylo accidentally tripped the lock.

Hence the whole "awakening".
 
DarkKyo said:
At one point I felt that too. The mystique of the character plus the other characters constantly mentioning Luke's disappearance felt like it was an almost obvious solution to both things.
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I think that's why they showed his face. I think some people were expecting Kylo to be Like as he showed a good arsenal of the force and, well, his father was dark too. Happy he isn't Luke but Kylo is no match for him evidently.

MadLaughter said:
Saddest death in the movie:

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RIP you beautiful bastard. FN-B4D455, you were the hero this movie deserved.
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Lol that fight was great.
 
FUBAR McDangles said:
I know JJ was trying to appease the old nostalgic crowd and go back to practical effects for a large portion of the film...but for the most part it looked terrible.

That vulture thing picking at something dead when Rey was flying into town after the scavenging run was terrible. It just moved back and forth with no other movement and honestly looked like a child's feathery toy.

Maz's bar was full of terrible costumes. Because that is what it looked like. People in costumes. I can count on one hand the amount of times that one of the aliens/creatures looked good, including Chewbacca.

The Resistance aliens were bad. Ackbar looked like a terrible imitation of his VI self. Nien Nunb, the pilot who fought alongside Lando suddenly had his head enlarged and looked more fake than ever before. The alien pilot that makes the final trench run with Poe, who then dies, not only looked bad but is also magically in the crowd of people on the Resistance planet once the Falcon lands and Chewie, Rey, and Finn come off.

The three best-designed non-humans were Chewbacca, Maz, and that tentacle monster on Han's transport ship. Two of them were CGI.
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Dude, it's either that or they look like cartoon CGI. It would take so much longer post production to get a bar full of aliens to look believable.

Just look at the tentacle monster from Han's ship, you honestly would rather shit look like that then high quality costumes?
 
Anton Sugar said:
I liked the little windows into Stormtrooper life. Never taking off the helmet, their "names," and the amount of loyalty they have (and, conversely, feeling of betrayal).
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It was nice seeing Stormtroopers seem like real characters for the first time in the movies.
 
rrc1594 said:
Movie was great. My only issues is my own curiosity, I need to know why he went Dark Side.

I'm shocked Han let his kid be a Jedi TBH
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He was force sensitive. Luke and Leia probably noticed early on.

It could've been that if he was force sensitive might as well make him learn the Light side instead of falling to the Dark.

But looks like that didn't work out lol.
 
borghe said:
no. no no no. seeing THE lightsaber, the one that started it all, for the first time chronologically since Luke had his hand cut off. That was amazing.
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*Thirty seconds into Episode 8, Luke uses the Force to throw that lightsaber into the ocean*

Rey - What the hell, Luke!?

Luke - Everyone who uses that thing is either dead or missing a hand.
 
I really thought Luke was going to be on the star killer planet the entire time haha , dat twist

Like I was right about Finn taking a L to Kylo but I thought Luke was going to be in hiding there and come out and save Rey and Finn from Kylo

"HE WAS HERE THE ENTIRE TIME!!" - emo Kylo



;p
 
The only thing holding me back from loving the movie was the star killer base. If the star killer base was more imaginative and that entire scene wasn't a clone from a new hope then I would have been obsessed with it. But that kind of went over the line. The rest of the episode 4 homages i could deal with.
 
I liked Kylo but I wish they would have expanded on his story and motivations a little more other than OH MY GOD YOU'RE HAN SOLO'S SON. That's cool, you're a discount Jacen Solo.
 
MadLaughter said:
Saddest death in the movie:

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RIP you beautiful bastard. FN-B4D455, you were the hero this movie deserved.
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You know, somebody brought up a good point. Why wasn't Phasma doing the fighting instead of random stormtrooper?

Anyway, why do they have anti-lightsaber weapons. What for. Not like there's a bunch of lightsaber wielders running around.
 
Fliesen said:
fuck double bladed lightsabers. They're clearly taking a step away from the dancy fencing fighting styles, back to actual swordfights.

the double bladed lightsaber totally embodies TPM - why would you do a callback to THAT movie.
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Was Rey dancing when she used her staff in this movie?
 
Even though General Hux had some authority over Kylo Ren it felt like it was just sort of a keeping up appearances thing as far as Snoke was concerned. It's clear Snoke has two agendas: 1. Establishing The First Order as the new dominant power in the galaxy and 2. Something to do with the Force. Now, I'm not saying the First Order is a smoke screen, just that he's certainly interested in more than military/political dominance and he's not letting that side get involved with his Force based intentions. Like Palpatine, really.

I say this because Hux clearly had a couple of smug I told you so moments with Ren while reporting to Snoke, but once Hux left Snoke never really jumped on Ren's ass about it. He simply reminded him he was still vulnerable and told him to find Skywalker and later to bring him Rey.
 
Slaythe said:
Can you stop acting like Kylo and Anakin are anything alike ?

Anakin had legitimate reasons. Kylo is a whiny brat that was born with a silver spoon as far as we know.

Anakin didn't just decide to be evil for the sake of being evil. Which is exactly what Kylo is doing for now. It might change in the sequels, but not currently.
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"Anakin, you have had some premonitions of your wife dying in childbirth that I previously indicated I would 100% be able to stop. Now I tell you I might try and help you stop that and stuff but no guarantees. Now go kill a roomful of small children"

"Ok"
 
rrc1594 said:
Movie was great. My only issues is my own curiosity, I need to know why he went Dark Side.

I'm shocked Han let his kid be a Jedi TBH
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His comment about there being too much Vader in him, and Leia's response to that, made it sound like they only really sent him to Luke because he was a Force-sensitive problem child -- and rather than risk him turning to the dark side, they hoped Luke would be able to straighten him out with Jedi training.
 
Pretty good film. Better than all of the prequels. I did not like Kylo Ren. He became very hayden christensen-esque whenever he removed his mask. Just seemed like an adolescent crybaby. All of the other characters are great and I enjoyed them a lot.

Story was a little too "A New Hope" redux for me. They really took the assault on the Star Killer quickly with not many ships and still managed to destroy the thing with not much effort. It all happened a little quick.

A fun ride, though. I'll see it again at some point.
 
jett said:
You know, somebody brought up a good point. Why wasn't Phasma doing the fighting instead of random stormtrooper?

Anyway, why do they have anti-lightsaber weapons. What for. Not like there's a bunch of lightsaber wielders running around.
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Phasma is a commander, no?

She's not going to be doing ground fighting.
 
Anton Sugar said:
#TeamThumbsUp

It was literally in the shape of a thumb, y'all.
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Ditto.

jett said:
You know, somebody brought up a good point. Why wasn't Phasma doing the fighting instead of random stormtrooper?

Anyway, why do they have anti-lightsaber weapons. What for. Not like there's a bunch of lightsaber wielders running around.
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I didn't take it as an explicit anti-lightsaber weapon. I thought it was just a sci-fi melee weapon. Like a Star Wars tonfar.
 
Seriously you need stop these Skywalkers. This has to be the last Gen, soon a later all them could go Dark Side. You won't have another Skywalker to stop them.
 
There was literally no noise in my theatre throughout the whole thing except for opening crawl when a dad swore at his son cause he needed to piss, he said "You know ive been waiting for this you little shit"
 
So thinking about it: do they ever explicitly say that Kylo was the one who killed all of Luke's students?

They say that Kylo used to be Luke's student before Snoke turned him.

Han says ONE of Luke's students killed everyone.

I know it's unlikely and Han probably just didn't want to mention it was Kylo, but it also sounds like they could be setting up bait and switch.

Also, the flash back scene where it happens is intentionally vague.
 
Sylas said:
Kylo isn't a Sith Lord. He isn't even Sith. They're gone! He's a shitty kid who doesn't understand how to actually use the Dark side and is constantly lashing out--likely because he was taught that's how the Dark side works.

I think an important distinction to remember going forward is that the Sith are likely gone from the universe for now. A Dark side user is not a Sith.

As for Rey being so good with tech, I mean. She grew up around junkers and likely fucked around in the Falcon a lot as a kid. Understanding Droid isn't really all that unusual since it's just another language in that universe. The amazing pilot stuff was likely foreshadowing her force sensitivity because one thing we've known about being force sensitive is that it enables faster than normal reactions and gives you hella reflexes. All things that a good pilot needs, basically.
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Yap, they literally spit this out/retconned in TFA, the Sith are just the bad guys in PQ and not Dark Jedis.

I think it was Maz who said something about the Dark Side will always be around, be it the Sith, the Empire and now First Order..
 
jett said:
You know, somebody brought up a good point. Why wasn't Phasma doing the fighting instead of random stormtrooper?

Anyway, why do they have anti-lightsaber weapons. What for. Not like there's a bunch of lightsaber wielders running around.
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Certainly really convenient, but looked like it could be used for crowd control too. It's basically a superduper stun baton.

Also, if Kylo "felt" the Force in Rey, he could have brought them as a precaution.
 
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