Live from New Hampshire, it's the 3rd Democratic Primary Debate!

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Foffy said:
It goes beyond the GOP, to be fair. Maybe not with war, but we always act short-term responses, never caring about long-term solutions.

Our economy literally is ran this way.
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On the economy that's just down to greedy businessmen. You are generally right though, long term solutions also don't tend to be too popular so we very rarely get someone willing to talk about them.
 
Also, Bernie reinforcing what anyone who pays attention to him says. He does not have the ability to focus on more than one thing at a time. As President, you don't get to fight one fire while letting the other burn. You have to deal with everything at once.
 
adam387 said:
Neither of these people can touch Hillary on foreign policy.

Bernie is wrong as hell on this. I mean, dangerously wrong.
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Yeah this whole we'll just punt the Assad issue like it can be detangled from the ISIS issue makes zero sense. They are directly related. You can't say lets deal with one and not the other.
 
How come we get a nice long detailed exchange in this debate while the last Republic Debate was cut to commercials every 40 seconds? Who controls that the network or the GOP?
 
Sanders' comment about "I wasn't Secretary, I was 1 of 100 senators" (which was kind of out of focus) in response to Hillary saying he supported ousting Qaddafi is a pretty weak defense considering his biggest attack on Hillary has been her support for the Iraqi War as a senator.
 
I'm honestly wondering how many more debates we're going to have with 80-90% ISIS ISIS ISIS and then 10% every single other thing the President has to constantly be responsible for. The media seems to think the Presidency is like their jobs, you just cover and focus on what's in the headlines and ignore the rest until it comes back up again.
 
B-Dubs said:
On the economy that's just down to greedy businessmen. You are generally right though, long term solutions also don't tend to be too popular so we very rarely get someone willing to talk about them.
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I speak on basic income all of the time. The answers you get today are "more jobs! more growth on a finite space!" when we see, not even just in terms of technological risk but climate risk, that such a proposition is shitbrained. This is a dying response. Why is that not acknowledged?

I promise you, not a single candidate will address the long-term direction we need on this exact issue when the economy is brought up. Sanders is the closest, but he is still wrong in his plans about it.
 
Soka said:
I went into this on Bernie's side but... Clinton has honestly impressed me. Not what I was expecting to feel after watching this.
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I don't agree with Clinton on everything. In a different year she might not have been my pick. But this year, with the candidates we have, she is by far the most capable and together person I've seen on any stage. If there's someone I would trust in charge of the country its her.

That's not a great bar to clear. I'd love to vote for someone who's policy proposals excited me. Hell, I'd like to vote for a Bernie-like candidate in a different context. But...this is the hand we're dealt
 
PhoenixDark said:
She's conflating that and ISIS, constantly.
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For a reason though. It is easier to get the political needed to institute a no fly zone for ISIS. Saying its to stop a dictator sounds like war mongering, but using a terrorist group like ISIS, people are more willing to listen.

We wanted to implement one 3 years ago but there was no support for it. If one had been in place the mass refugee crisis may have at least been either averted or the damage severely reduced.
 
Las7 said:
Hillary wants war with Assad and ISIS while building an Arab coalition - what a brilliant idea

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No she doesn't, she wants a diplomatic path through a coaltion with Europe and Russia to deal with Assad and a path to a solution. She wants war only with ISIS.
 
Hillary is clearly the best candidate on the stage. I think her policy on Syria and ISIS are terrible but the same could be said of the other candidates too.
 
Foffy said:
I speak on basic income all of the time. The answers you get today are "more jobs! more growth on a finite space!" when we see, not even just in terms of technological risk but climate risk, that such a proposition is shit brained.

I promise you, not a single candidate will address the long-term direction we need on this exact issue when the economy is brought up. Sanders is the closest, but he is still wrong in his plans about it.
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Oh I agree, I'm just happy if someone is thinking a decade into the future let alone 20-30 years.
 
I cant wait for Clinton to DESTROY Trump in the generals debates. Hopefully thats enough to destroy Trumps populism, but I doubt it.
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
I'm honestly wondering how many more debates we're going to have with 80-90% ISIS ISIS ISIS and then 10% every single other thing the President has to constantly be responsible for. The media seems to think the Presidency is like their jobs, you just cover and focus on what's in the headlines and ignore the rest until it comes back up again.
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If they don't sell ISIS, they can't conflate this into a mad horserace all the way through for the ratings drive on fear and loathing.
 
"Sorry we've got to cut the Sanders camp segment short, the debate is starting again."

"Oh wait nevermind let's go to Hilary's camp!"
 
Soka said:
I went into this on Bernie's side but... Clinton has honestly impressed me. Not what I was expecting to feel after watching this.
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Well, her policy is Obama's policy. Differences are little because the top dog policy advisers are the ones devising such- not Obama nor Hillary but people who really know what they're doing. Both Obama and Hillary share the same network more or less... I mean she knows the playbook while she was Secretary of State and the roadmap has been long laid out.

The other candidates don't necessarily have that luxury although it's not that hard to absorb with enough preparedness.
 
B-Dubs said:
Oh I agree, I'm just happy if someone is thinking a decade into the future let alone 20-30 years.
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We need more people like those. In fact, we almost had the question on automation brought up on the CNN debate.

I wanted it to be brought up, to see how all three of these candidates are failures in that problem. :(
 
I think bernie did a pretty good job on what is seen as his weakest issues, foreign policy. Having the economy come last in the debate might help him.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Hillary is clearly the best candidate on the stage. I think her policy on Syria and ISIS are terrible but the same could be said of the other candidates too.
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It's hard because while the Republicans can offer whatever they want, the Democrats have to weigh whether or not they want to break with the President for now
 
The only true answer to world peace is to nuke the entire planet and then crash the moon into earth just in case, then there will be no more people and countries fighting each other.
 
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