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[The Goat]

Yeah, bit over priced, but they are selling to the enthusiast market, not the mainstream. It will be fine for them. A couple more years, and the Rift will be much cheaper, and more refined to boot. Just wait it out.

 

[Tempy]

Paying taxes and custom duty is something I'm used. But being taxed TWICE is obviously dumb. Let's just hope it's just misinformation/confusion.

 

[Jarmel]

Putting an European address on the package suddenly makes it close to $200 more expensive!

European names are hard to spell, you have to take that into account.

 

[nib95]

Wat.

 

[mangochutney]

That doesn't confirm shipping from the EU, just their storefront pricing scheme. I mean it sounds like they're saying your import taxes are covered, but if they ship units from the US you could be liable for import tax regardless of what the storefront is charging (or claiming to cover).

Needs to be cleared up asap.

That's not the case, it is called DDP - Delivered Duty Paid.

This is where the shipper of the item takes onus of customs/duty/tax et al.

DDU - Delivered Duty Unpaid is where it is up to the recipient when the item is finally delivered.

Plenty of websites offer DDP these days, so Amazon and eBay for example both offer up delivery options with taxes included.

 

[CCS]

Pretty much every gaming device in recent years has had a euro price which is at most equal to the dollar price. I would love to know why the rift is significantly higher, because I can't see a good explanation.

 

[Tadie]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

 

[ANDS]

Palmer telling people to blame their country is a strongly worded but not unreasonable thing to say.

Definitely not unreasonable, but just a stupid way to say it. You are first to market dedicated VR unit (as far as I know). You can not have missteps, even in your approach to the public.

 

[Ombala]

Conflicting messages. So the Euro price doesn't include import taxes after all?

Hello Adam Orth!

 

[StoopKid]

I wouldn't be surprised it will be sold out today though, site is being hammered

Didn't PS3 sale decently at first?

I wanna see sales in 6 months.

 

[Kaako]

oh my, what if Vive is the same price

Then most people would be buying the Vive Day 1, myself included! I can guarantee you of that. We are expecting the Vive to be around $750 minimum now after final Rift pricing. Oculus done fucked it up for everyone; no pressure of competitive price now on Valve & HTC.

 

[Tenebrous]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

That's what they're telling you - And why is it hard to believe?

 

[King_Moc]

Channeling Sony 2006 I see

To be fair, if that's their cost price, then there's not much they can do about that. They should have announced the price earlier though to avoid the disappointment after all that hype.

 

[woen]

This guy is kind of a dick, huh?

You're talking about a guy that puts a blazer with his t-shirt and has hands-off microphone in order to be able to move his hands slowly on a theater scene because it is so cool.

Spoiler

so yeah

 

[friskykillface]

lol "blame your country, not us"

legend tweet

 

[fantomena]

820€ in everything (tax and stuff) in Norway.

lol

wtf yo

 

[plagiarize]

Oh so they did say the KS freebie ones would be going out earliest? Good to have confirmation if true.

'Amongst the earliest shipments' was I think the official line. So dunno if that means March 28th, but I'm presuming so, since they could very easily set aside those units as they already had those numbers.

 

[diablos991]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

Do you seriously think those components cost $100?
A damned smart phone BOM is $150 to $250 and that is after years of mass production.

Using emergent display and sensor technology certainly isn't cheap for them.

 

[PdotMichael]

European names are hard to spell, you have to take that into account.

This book must be out of date: I don't see "Prussia", "Siam", or "autogyro".

 

[User 479360]

Even if I could run it, there's no way I'm paying close to $900 for it.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

As they've said before everything in it is custom made and hq materials, no off the shelf parts used. Custom hq lenses, screens, the works. This isn't fisher price vr.

'Amongst the earliest shipments' was I think the official line. So dunno if that means March 28th, but I'm presuming so, since they could very easily set aside those units as they already had those numbers.

Okay thanks for that.

 

[Shenmue]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

Maybe he means Facebook is not making money factoring in what they paid for Oculus and then factoring in salaries and whatnot.

 

[Audioboxer]

That's not the case, it is called DDP - Delivered Duty Paid.

This is where the shipper of the item takes onus of customs/duty/tax et al.

DDU - Delivered Duty Unpaid is where it is up to the recipient when the item is finally delivered.

Plenty of websites offer DDP these days, so Amazon and eBay for example both offer up delivery options with taxes included.

I meant with how things currently stand, you could be liable. As his tweets have caused confusion. I know if it is factually true they are paying import, you will 100% not have any more charges.

They just need to clear it up quickly, and it won't need to be spoken about again.

 

[dLMN8R]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

You tell me how much this should cost:

• Very high-resolution completely custom screens
• Custom optics tuned to this specific device
• Manufacturing starting costs for a brand new device
• Controller + other accessories

 

[harSon]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

I don't see why it couldn't.

 

[deltatheta]

Can someone explain to me what's wrong with this? He just stated a fact without sugar coating it, or do people prefer he acted like a PR person and fed them well-articulated bullshit?

You don't understand, people aren't offended, people are concerned that the CEO's inexperience at public relations will harm the company.

(actually I think people comment on it being bad PR just because being offended is a faux pas in certain circles)

 

[VanCityGamer]

Can anyone explain how PSVR and Occulus Rift will compare to Gear VR? I have the latter and while I think it's pretty cool, video quality is not very crisp and it's difficult to see very far into the distance. Comes across pretty low resolution.

 

[Got the Shakes]

I thought I remembered Luckey saying something about needing a 1200-1500 dollar PC to run the OR, but I must have misheard that. Still, I think it's strange that people are complaining about a $600 price tag for something that most people expected to be around $500. The EU people have a right to complain, but I don't think $600 dollars is an unfair price for something so cutting edge.

I've got a GTX 970, i5-4590, 16 gb of RAM, and tons of USB 3.0 ports and mine meets the "Oculus ready" standard according to the software they offer to check on their store page. Granted it is basically at the minimum end of the specs, but nonetheless they say it will work. How well or for how long in the future I don't know about though.

Also I'm not planning on buying one as I've for the most part gone away from buying new tech in a new tech category on day one. Just wanted people to know that want to jump in that they may be able to build a capable PC for under the $1500 mark people have been throwing around.

 

[Donny]

HAHAHAHA, Europe is a country.

LOL I can't believe I didn't see that before....

 

[Hawk269]

I believe 5:30 pst but I'll double check...

edit: It's at 6pm pst

Do you have a link to watch/hear it?

 

[Ovek]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

No were near and if it does they should have spent some of that Facebook money streamlining the manufacturing process.

 

[CCS]

At least Sony have traditionally treated the European market halfway decently. Gonna be waiting for PSVR for sure.

 

[Lime]

After taxes and everything, this will cost 938 EUR for a Scandinavian citizen to import. That is equivalent to buying a brand new computer with an i7 processor and a 970 GPU.

 

[Hale-XF11]

lol "blame your country, not us"

legend tweet

It's kind of a catchy tag line. Maybe it'll catch on with the masses.

 

[Zok310]

Ohhh my god!
Your move PlayStation.

 

[Shenmue]

Also no one cares if you are making money or not. No one cared that Sony was losing $200 on each PS3 sold at launch. This is not something your customers are concerned about.

 

[commish]

You don't understand, people aren't offended, people are concerned that the CEO's inexperience at public relations will harm the company.

(actually I think people comment on it being bad PR just because being offended is a faux pas in certain circles)

I honestly had no idea people cared enough about the company to be so concerned.

 

[Alx]

Yup, like lots of consumer hardware these days. All bout dat app store.

edit: Speaking of, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a mint off some military orders for training sims, ditto for medical.

Military and medical fields don't mind paying a few grands (or more) for their hardware.
But regular industry applications have better chances of being attracted by a lower price...

 

[Waveset]

What jungle do you live in that makes phones an "unnecessary luxury device"? Sounds nice. The world essentially runs on the Internet and having a smart phone can drastically improve the quality of your life.

I've lived in 3rd world countries, its given me perspective.

 

[Tain]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

Just look at what's at the core of this thing. 2x 1080x1200 90hz OLED displays won't be cheap.

Add everything else and $599 makes a lot of sense.

 

[The Elite]

With each page I am still shocked that people are surprised the first consumer level VR device to ship isn't cheap.

I am even more amazed people assume the price will never drop on the tech. I expect the technology standard to settle to around $199-$299 in a few years at the mid to low end. Higher end units will still be around the $499 to $599 mark.

 

[darkwing]

this has a controller included right? it isn't so bad, heck the PS3 was 599 and it did fine

 

[Tempy]

You don't understand, people aren't offended, people are concerned that the CEO's inexperience at public relations will harm the company.

(actually I think people comment on it being bad PR just because being offended is a faux pas in certain circles)

Again - Palmer Lucky's tweets seem to suggest that taxes are included in the price, but that you might be taxed AGAIN. Which is all kinds of bullshit.

 

[deltatheta]

I honestly had no idea people cared enough about the company to be so concerned.

Yes, I think it's pretty suspicious too.

 

[georly]

MHhh so why is this headset so damn expensive?

They can not tell me that the producing costs are about 500$.

Paying employees to develop this stuff costs money, too, you know? Research and development isn't free. People have to spend a lot of time figuring this out, so even if the materials to make this are as cheap as you're imagining (which I doubt) you still need to... pay your employees for developing the stuff for you.

I honestly had no idea people cared enough about the company to be so concerned.

People care about the VR dream and oculus seems to be a company that is making progress toward that. Less people developing VR is a bad thing. Just like less companies making gaming consoles is a bad thing if you want gaming to continue to be big.

 

[ISee]

You tell me how much this should cost:

• Very high-resolution completely custom screens
• Custom optics tuned to this specific device
• Manufacturing starting costs for a brand new device
• Controller + other accessories

But why put a controller into the box in the first place? I bet most people with descent gaming pcs already got one. It seems unnecessary.

 

[woen]

You don't understand, people aren't offended, people are concerned that the CEO's inexperience at public relations will harm the company.

(actually I think people comment on it being bad PR just because being offended is a faux pas in certain circles)

The question is not "it's bad PR" "it's good PR", the gust is just a clown on twitter, likes to troll and answers only to what pleases him to draw attention.

Spoiler

No it's not a Trump description

But why put a controller into the box in the first place? I bet most people with descent gaming pcs already got one. It seems unnecessary.

Because the VR controller isn't in the box (lol), so people will complain less ("Look I can still play! I can even use this with non-VR games!"). It isn't very professional.

 

[Interficium]

If the price is too high for you, you were likely never in the enthusiast, early-adopter sector this piece of hardware is firmly targeted for.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Can anyone explain how PSVR and Occulus Rift will compare to Gear VR? I have the latter and while I think it's pretty cool, video quality is not very crisp and it's difficult to see very far into the distance. Comes across pretty low resolution.

Well this was posted to reddit about a week ago, impressions from pretty much final Rift, comparison to gear:

The pixels are pretty much invisible now, when you 'really' focus you can see a fine pattern but only on some colors, on dark blue or green its solid and there is no pixel pattern or 'screen door'. on white you can see a very fine pattern but you CANNOT see the pixels like you can with the dk1 or 2.

The image is VERY uniform, the dark colors feel just as solid as the bright colors and there is no black smear or other screen based artefacts. The screen feels (and looks) higher resolution than the Vive & GearVR. Text is razor sharp. The Vive must be using a different screen or at least an earlier revision because I did notice the pixels more so in it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3ynsim/i_got_to_try_the_consumer_beta_ecv7_and_here_is/

I think that bodes well for the display.

 

[nib95]

Playstation VR will hopefully be far more sensibly priced.