The Lone Dragon
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I believe so.
Street Fighter V Beta IV Thread: Jan 30-31
- Thread starter Master Milk
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I believe so.
Nah, come on. That's bullshit. Not when it comes to unlocking content in a game.
The Lone Dragon
Member
Cammy or Rashid, I'd say...
sixteen-bit
Member
Any downtime scheduled?
Stallion Dan
Member
It's live early?
Mentosrock
Member
Thank you! I've tried Cammy, but I never gave Rashid a shot. I'll try him out. Laura and Karin looked cool, but they seem a little difficult?
NoctisVsStar
Member
Capcom gotta make money somehow, unfair as it might seem.
Lights and Waves
Member
Is the beta live on PS4?
It was announced for the 29th in Japan, so yeah, it's been up for everybody since last night.
SquirrelSoup
Member
If you want them to quit the game, sure. But Capcom doesn't. They want everyone to stick around so they can sell them costumes and season passes.
Everyone is free to either unlock or pay for the DLC as they see fit. Why should less experienced players be pushed more towards paying just because they are losing more often than winning? I guess you think the rich should get richer in a sense?
There should be some other ways of earning credits besides just winning online IMO. Either that or just give a lesser amount of credit for a loss than a win.
Stone Ocean
Member
There are.
Don't you also get fight money from single player content and those daily challenges?
NoctisVsStar
Member
Limited, but the bulk will be via challenges kinda like 3sOE but ultimately online will be the defacto way to earn the most.
Like someone mentioned above, the challenges could render that moot.
Like if they did something like this:
Completionist: Complete 10 matches online
Perfectionist: get a Perfect in a ranked match
That's Critical: Win a ranked match with a CA
Streaky: win 5 ranked matches
One Quarter: complete Arcade mode with any character (default difficulty) without continuing
and with fight money rewards for all of them
So it isn't just me that noticed it. If there's no offline means of getting fight money through daily challenges = refund time.
Not even remotely convinced this would be the case. Any points they earn for losing would be so paltry it would be worthless, just a feel good gesture. No casual is going to keep playing because of that, they will quit within a month or so just like any other game. Their simplified mechanics and whatever story mode they come up is their best appeal to that audience.
While I agree they should get a few points, as long as they're not losing money it should be okay. There will be plenty of fight money attainable through single player, between arcade mode, training, challenges, survival, etc.
Because they bought the game and are actively playing it, thus supporting the game. Some players may never get good and lose most of the time, but that doesn't mean they should be completely discouraged from playing the game online and trying to get better after spending money and time on it. Awarding some amount of fight money for playing is not unreasonable or unfair. If you win and get the maximum amount, good for you. You got the biggest possible reward. You're not getting slighted if the loser of the match gets something as a consolation.
Splash Wave
Member
Wait--it's up?! I had my alarm set for tomorrow!
The Lone Dragon
Member
They've said a million times that there are.
He seems pretty fun to play with,
He's so slippery, the match I had was lagging a bit too so he was basically teleporting around and I couldn't react for shit.
paolo11
Member
I like this. Is that what you normally do when playing SF? Play one hour then study replays? How effective is this?
Suggestions for a Bison user stuck under corner pressure? I can't seem to be able to get out
V-Reversal?
And how much will you be able to get? The same as online? Because if it's limited to "oh you can only get 1,000 for doing the tutorials and going into training mode once" that's not the same.
They need to encourage people to play. The last beta had 10Fight Money on loss IIRC, while the winner got like 100FM. That was more than fair because it didn't waste anyones time for going into a ranked/casual match. Here, if you lose, you've lost time and "effort" toward unlocking things with the only benefit being some knowledge that you may/may not be able to take into the next match.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
Crossups basically don't work on him if the player is on point with their V-Skill rolls.
Fuck, I can already see me being like lvl 20 with 0 LP.
Is the only way to deal with Gief's charging grab to run? Or jump? Can I use my CA against it as Chun? And are tatsu's safe on block? I also have no idea what to do when I get my opponent in the corner. I usually try to jump in and I get anti aired.
Is the only way to deal with Gief's charging grab to run? Or jump? Can I use my CA against it as Chun? And are tatsu's safe on block? I also have no idea what to do when I get my opponent in the corner. I usually try to jump in and I get anti aired.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
That's a pretty bad comparison. Those characters shouldn't even be paid DLC in the first place. Nothing is gained for the consumer by making that content really difficult to unlock.
If Capcom makes it extremely difficult for people to unlock those characters it would be no different then when developers of F2P games make levels so difficult that you essentially need to buy something from them to get past it.
Thanks for bringing this up and explaining what it is. It was driving me nuts! After spending quite some time trying to get IV show up on my TV as good as it could (as I had graphical niggles with that game from the get go as well), seeing these dots in V made me question my setup all over again. For those that don't see them but wish to: choose Necalli and pick a stage with bright light like the New York of Waterfall stages. Now, watch the area on his body around his hanging dreads and you'll see lots of tiny dots/squares as if he is wearing finely structered but nearly invisible black tights around his skin. I can only hope that Capcom is aware of this and still willing and able to fix it even now as it kind of ruins the look of the characters on those stages.
Well, you're certainly not the only that feels this way. I - at this first impressions stage at least - also feel as if there is something missing from V, some element from the basic combat flow perhaps that II and III had in spades (and that made playing matches so satisfying) but IV and now V seem to be lacking (for me) for the most part. Might be a different design direction or combat focus though. Just curious, did you like IV or did it feel similar?
You really think they should work on post launch DLC for free? I'm all for free DLC, but Capcom is running a business here. It's nice they let people earn the DLC through playing the game, but it shouldn't be easy.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I don't know about you but being given fucking nothing for your time is pretty demotivating for most people
...i litterally just saw what that was from a YT video
Had no idea it was even in the game lol
I don't think he or anyone would disagree that Capcom should get paid if that's the option of quickest method for people that are impatient. However, I think people would disagree with you that in the meantime of the "grind" people shouldn't be losing "time and effort" toward that grind because they lose a match (or many as the case may be for casuals) and they don't want to spend money to unlock quickly.
There's nothing wrong with having the Fight Money grind. There's a problem when that Fight Money grind is "oh you need to win a lot" grind.
Losing a lot while getting 10FM for 10 matches would equal nearly the same as winning 2 matches that give 50FM is more fair than losing ten matches and getting 0 FM from the process. Understand?
Truest shit ever written.
Ok, cool, so Capcom's message for those who buy the game, spend their time playing online, but lose is to F off and go play single player?
So something like the loser of the match getting 10 FM, and the winner getting 100 FM is going to offend your sense of honor? How is that so problematic? You're getting ten times as much for winning. That's a pretty big motivation for trying to get better and win.
I swear, attitudes like this this are exactly why even people who try to get into the genre get fed up and give up.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
This is a terrible mentality. It's a pretty meager roster in the base game. We shouldn't be happy that Capcom is doing us the favor of unlocking characters. That used to be standard practice in fighting games.
I'm not saying they should just be giving them away, I'm just saying that there is a fine line between "Doing us a favor." and purposefully manipulating the in game monetary system to where only the upper echelon of players ever get to try the other characters without paying for it. And giving someone absolutely no currency when they're playing is crossing that line.
I actually did not like IV at all. I played it when it came out for a while then quit, I never went back to it. I had a lot of problems with how IV played. While I am pretty happy with V itself, despite my feelings on it.
Lights and Waves
Member
Thank you! Just preordered it and started a remote download from work. I hope it's ready by the time I get home!