JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Does the Windows 10 store version have achievements?!
Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Origin is totally fine these days IMO. They've had time to get their act together unlike MS.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You do realize that those are EA properties and EA properties since like 2012 (Mass Effect 3 I believe) are exclusive to Origin?
OnionPowder
Member
Yep
EA and Valve had a falling out because Valve requires them to sell DLC through their storefront for games on the service, which is why Origin exists.
...Scatter...
Banned
My favorite part of this story is that my Windows 10 store won't launch. Like it literally even refuses to open up and MS chat couldn't fix it.
Kssio_Aug
Member
If I'm not mistaken Tomb Raider did. Probably Quantum Break and any other game released there will feature achievements as well.
kenjigreat
Banned
All I'm saying is that it Might or it Might not come to Steam . Its up to the publisher. If it happens at all. Microsoft owns publishing rights for Quantum so waiting for a steam version depends on them.
I actually don't have a problem with Origin. They gave me Red Alert 2 Free after killing Westwood.
Wowfunhappy
Member
And pretty much all developers choose to have DRM. And even for those that don't, it isn't immediately obvious when there is DRM and when there isn't. And even when there really isn't any, you still need Steam to download the game the first time.
Excuse me for being less than fond of Steam.
MulderYuffie
Member
expected but sad news regardless.
kenjigreat
Banned
GOG Master Race.
Nocturno999
Member
I tried Solitaire and it does. It's integrated with Xbox' social news feed too.
Well, I'll probably be skipping this too, due to the Windows 10 Store. However, as for DX12 games, there will be more of those in the future. DX12 is quite superior to DX11 in performance, and it's a free upgrade for all versions of Windows newer than Vista, so expect more, not less, Windows 10-only games in the coming years.
So you don't need to login to GOG to download the game now? News to me, how do you magically download the games then?
kenjigreat
Banned
You don't have to install anything arbitrary or have anything running to download from GOG. Its like downloading from any site.
You also don't have to have anything running in the background for your games to run.
If I had it my way , everything would be on GOG.
I'm reading that thread chain you responded to and I don't understand your point. YOur response doesn't have any direct relation to it. Indirectly if you're trying to say logging in to your account is a form of DRM then you are totally off base.
DRM is a means to control how you install. Once you download the software from Gog to your PC our cloud server you are free to do whatever you want with that software.
kenjigreat
Banned
Might just be people who used Steam haven't tried out GOG before. We have websites where you can download games directly like GOG without an account *Just not legally . We call them pirates.
Is this supposed to show me something? it's just storefront..
It goes to Left 4 Dead for me, maybe it's regional?
You don't have to have anything running in the background for your DRM-free steam games to run either.
And once you download DRM-free games from Steam you are also free to do whatever you want with that software.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Yes, of course you do—but you don't need to install anything extra on your computer. Just go to the website, login, and download the installer.
Anyway, you're right, DRM free games on Steam are almost as good. They're also pretty rare, though, even among indie releases that are available DRM free outside of Steam. And you can never really tell for sure what is or is not DRM free.
kenjigreat
Banned
Every game on GOG is DRM-Free.
You don't have to install Steam or anything arbitrary for that matter. Thats the advantage of GOG.
I like how people miss the point. But yea GOG is awesome.
OnionPowder
Member
Steam is also just a Storefront. This uPlay, Ubisofts direct competitor to Steam. You wanted Valve selling their games on a competitors service. It even shows up in the uPlay client.
Iced Arcade
Member
Thought this was expected so not surprised
I think you missed my point entirely which is: games on Steam don't have DRM by default, it's something that it's entirely the developer's choice, and I was initially replying to people who think that a game on Steam automatically has DRM. This is false.
Also a reminder: not all games on GOG are actually completely DRM-free. A number of them require the use of cd-keys to access multiplayer components.
Yeah, i think it's regional.
Steam is also just a Storefront. This uPlay, Ubisofts direct competitor to Steam. You wanted Valve selling their games on a competitors service. It even shows up in the uPlay client.
It doesn't show up for me. Maybe you can only get it in specific regions
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Welp that is understandable but also dumb.
And then later on complaining that pc version does not sell enough next time.
Alan Wake did really well on pc.
Hopefully it comes like 6 months after the win 10 store version.
And then later on complaining that pc version does not sell enough next time.
Alan Wake did really well on pc.
Hopefully it comes like 6 months after the win 10 store version.
OnionPowder
Member
Ah that makes sense. Not really shocked at that (sadly)
Call Me A Hero
Member
I don't see what's wrong with it.
Many people who own PS4&PC or PC only wanted to come to PC so they don't need to get Xbox One but now when they announced the PC release, same people complain!?
I wonder if they are PC gamers or Steam gamers.
Many people who own PS4&PC or PC only wanted to come to PC so they don't need to get Xbox One but now when they announced the PC release, same people complain!?
I wonder if they are PC gamers or Steam gamers.
kenjigreat
Banned
Having an account and requiring internet to play Multiplayer games is DRM?
I can't even play Rise of the Tomb Raider , a Single player game without connecting to the internet.
People love Steam , I personally couldn't care less.
My thoughts below.
Game on ALL Storefronts > Games on Shitty Storefront > No games on PC.
Read the thread.
But Steam client is a DRM by itself.
abracadaver
Member
I have a few hundred games in my backlog on Steam. I will just play them instead of buying games from another store.
kenjigreat
Banned
They are the ones paying for the game to be made, they could have very well said , XBOX only or lets release this game on PC on the Windows Store 3 years later.
I have a feeling that Microsoft cares more about the sales no.s of Xbox ONE Copies than Windows Copies.
If people don't buy it on PC , I suspect they will just make the sequel and Xbox Exclusive like Halo.
There are people in this very thread who have explicitly stated that they wouldn't mind if the games were released on GOG, Origin, etc. instead basically any other platform other than the windows store.
kenjigreat
Banned
Basically everything is better than Windows Store and Uplay.
That or dropping the storefront all together because it failed due to their own lack of oversight, which makes the games unplayable in the future.
Windows 10 Store exclusive you say? No buy then. This isn't even a STEAM vs the competition issue. After the clusterfuck that GFWL was, I will stay away from any M$ operated storefront - especially in a situation where they are trying to force people into switching operating systems.
kenjigreat
Banned
Can Microsoft get anything right besides Xbox and Windows?
kinda like how valve forced people to install the garbage software that was Steam at the time to play Half Life 2?
The same software they've only improved on since then and is still around and will be for years to come? Yeah.
Unlike Games for Windows Live.
Well I get the impression that even with the main concerns addressed, a small chunk of vocal players will not use the store out of principle.
Personally it doesn't affect me, if it works flawlessly when I select it on the desktop I'm sorted. I'm getting it for free after all. I get screenshot functionality, achievements, DVR and everything else the Xbox service offers. My saves sync between console and PC. If it works, it works.
I smashed Warhammer Dawn of War for over 300 hours via Steam and loved it, the DRM was flawless, achievements worked fine and online was relatively issue free. If MS can deliver on those I'll keep using the store when the prices are right.
It isn't, the same has having an account on steam , downloading the client and use internet to download isn't a DRM. I'm not arguing that GOG doesn't do DRM-free better: they do. I'm saying that if someone wants to publish a DRM-free game to Steam, they can, it isn't automatically drmified by being on Steam.
It isn't though. If you have a DRM-free game on Steam, after you download you can copy it and play wherever you want and do anything you want to it without ever opening or even installing Steam again.