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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Wii/PS3/360; downloadable episodic release - [Update: $15?]

EmCeeGramr said:
if sonic's supposed to be so fast, how come tails and robotnik are just as fast as him (heck robotnik straight up outruns him on foot) and knuckles is like just a bit slower

fucking fraud

I would always go out of my way to prove Sonic's prowess with speed in Sonic 2 by always doing anything in my power during a level to ditch Tails.

If that didn't work? Then I would just fool the annoying fox into standing in lava or something.

I AM JOHN! said:
PS: stop having amazing albums as your avatars. They make me want to go listen to them. :(

That reminds me that I still have more I need to add to the rotation. :lol
 
Zen said:
But what if Jman has green eyes?

They are grayish-blue thank you very much!

Also Oil Ocean is awesome, I AM JOHN is spouting crazy nonsense (unless you're talking about those seahorses, because those seahorses SUCK)

EDIT - Metropolis is the best zone in Sonic 2 you fools! :|
 
AdroitOne said:
Or a new secret stage. I love Sonic and all, but I never actually explored in those games. I just went right as fast as I could since the focus has always been speed.
Really? I always loved exploring the levels in the Genesis Sonic games. I loved finding out the secret areas where 1ups, invisibility stars, those big rings, ring boxes, etc would appear. I also loved finding the best path to take since the older zones, as proven already in this thread, would allow you to take multiple paths. And the focus for me was speed and platforming so I never thought of the games as just "pressing right" to clear a zone.

Anyway, let's not get into this argument again. Just read the last few pages. :lol
 
Andrex said:
Oh good, you're here!

Zen said:
But what if Jman has green eyes?
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jman2050 said:
Also Oil Ocean is awesome, I AM JOHN is spouting crazy nonsense (unless you're talking about those seahorses, because those seahorses SUCK)
Hell yes I am. Fuck those goddamn seahorses. >:|

EDIT - Metropolis is the best zone in Sonic 2 you fools! :|
Starfish + spear boxes + those annoying Grasshoppers = no.
 
Here we go! For this I recommend downloading this 720p framegrab pak that I've put together. We're gonna observe some things about Sonic! First of all is the fact that just like in Sonic Unleashed, this model (or possibly pre-rendered sprite based on a model, more on that later) is smiling, presumably at all times, but kinda hard to make out with the supposed flat toon shader thing's got.
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See?

Take a look for yourself. Frames 1, 9, 13, 33, 34, 45, 43, 51, and 53 seem to all be blatant "smile frames". Pretty cool, no?

I am currently now analyzing if any of these are identical in position. It's taking a while, but maybe with some more digging, we can find out once and for all if it is models, or pre-rendered sprites! Post if you find anything new!

EDIT: The main reason I am doing this is for the sprite/model thing. The smile finding was just something that happened while analyzing frames.
 
Wow, whats with all Metropolis hate? Metropolis still stands as one of my favorite video game levels ever. ....except for those f**king starfish!
 
HUELEN10 said:
Here we go! For this I recommend downloading this 720p framegrab pak that I've put together. We're gonna observe some things about Sonic! First of all is the fact that just like in Sonic Unleashed, this model (or possibly pre-rendered sprite based on a model, more on that later) is smiling, presumably at all times, but kinda hard to make out with the supposed flat toon shader thing's got.

See?

Take a look for yourself. Frames 1, 9, 13, 33, 34, 45, 43, 51, and 53 seem to all be blatant "smile frames". Pretty cool, no?

I am currently now analyzing if any of these are identical in position. It's taking a while, but maybe with some more digging, we can find out once and for all if it is models, or pre-rendered sprites! Post if you find anything new!

I just

I have no words.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Here we go! For this I recommend downloading this 720p framegrab pak that I've put together. We're gonna observe some things about Sonic! First of all is the fact that just like in Sonic Unleashed, this model (or possibly pre-rendered sprite based on a model, more on that later) is smiling, presumably at all times, but kinda hard to make out with the supposed flat toon shader thing's got.
263c8lu.png

See?

Take a look for yourself. Frames 1, 9, 13, 33, 34, 45, 43, 51, and 53 seem to all be blatant "smile frames". Pretty cool, no?

I am currently now analyzing if any of these are identical in position. It's taking a while, but maybe with some more digging, we can find out once and for all if it is models, or pre-rendered sprites! Post if you find anything new!
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jman2050 said:
EDIT - Metropolis is the best zone in Sonic 2 you fools! :|

I like the Zone and all, but it's very much a trying task to get through it. Every badnik in that zone is designed in such a way to just do everything in their power to annoy the piss out of you. Everything in those three acts felt like it was about trying to tip-toe through the level as carefully as possible.

"Oh fuck, stupid crab got me right as I jumped over here OH THE MANTIS, SHIT! Well, that wasn't so... I SEE YOU STARFISH, FUCK YOU!"

EmCeeGramr said:
http://i48.tinypic.com/izb4vo.gif

:lol Yes! That was always the most amusing aspect of the game for me. The numerous ways I could torment that poor creature. I still remember when I set a personal record for how many times I killed him in a single act in Hilltop Zone.
 
jman2050 said:
I just

I have no words.
Well, people elsewhere have been trying to analyze every little thing, you know with the whole supposed other stages hidden in the rest of the trailer and whatnot, this is jut analyzing the blatant. I don't see the problem.

And yes, I have gone through every full frame of the footage, but just the footage, none of that "hidden BS". Now that's a little too much, at least IMO.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Well, people elsewhere have been trying to analyze every little thing, you know with the whole supposed other stages hidden in the rest of the trailer and whatnot, this is jut analyzing the blatant. I don't see the problem.

SONIC IS SMILING

MEGATON

HERE IS GRAFF

SEE

HE SMILES

HOLY FUCK
 
I highly, highly, highly doubt its a pre-rendered sprite. There absolutely no need for that. Wont look as good and on a simple model, its simply less work to stay in 3d
 
It IS pre-Rendered Sprites. Otherwise, they would have to have new, less detaild models on Wii and iPhone. Instead, they just down the resolution to 480P.

It's Sonic Kong Country!:lol
 
Raging Spaniard said:
I highly, highly, highly doubt its a pre-rendered sprite. There absolutely no need for that. Wont look as good and on a simple model, its simply less work to stay in 3d
I doubt it too, but there are quite a few saying otherwise. I am trying to find some evidence, one way or another, to end the discrepancy once and for all. Assuming it is possibly at all with the few seconds of footage we actually have to work with that is.
 
HUELEN10 said:
I doubt it too, but there are quite a few saying otherwise. I am trying to find some evidence, one way or another, to end the discrepancy once and for all. Assuming it is possibly at all with the few seconds of footage we actually have to work with that is.

Well have this wisdom: the few saying otherwise probably dont know what theyre talking about.
 
RobbieNick said:
It's Sonic Kong Country!:lol

Well, if that really is the case, at least it doesn't look as horrifically putrid as the Donkey Kong Country games did, at least based on what's been shown thus far.
 
So wait, let me get this straight, poking through a website is awesome, but analyzing footage is crazy?

Good grief. :lol
EDIT:
Danthrax said:
The problem is that you're analyzing a video to determine whether Sonic is smiling or not. People are digging through the Web site to find new information and art assets. One of those things is interesting, while the other...
I am actually doing this mainly to figure out if I can find evidence to confirm, or debunk the sprite/model thing. The smile thing was just a nice find while I was analyzing frames.
 
You never cease to surprise and amaze, Huelen :lol


[edit] The problem is that you're analyzing a video to determine whether Sonic is smiling or not. People are digging through the Web site to find new information and art assets. One of those things is interesting, while the other...
 
er, his face icon next to his number of lives is already smiling ....so yeah. You kinda wasted your time there buddy.
 
Can we get a check to see if HUELEN10 is actually Gahiggidy? It's the only possible explanation to the extreme retardation.
 
Ten-Song said:
Well, if that really is the case, at least it doesn't look as horrifically putrid as the Donkey Kong Country games did, at least based on what's been shown thus far.

I can understand the DKC hate, but DKC2 and 3 looked fantastic.
 
I honestly thought that people might want to know about the whole sprites/model thing. As for the little findings such as the smile and stuff, it's not that unlike some of the stuff that gets posted in the "Facts" thread, so I don't know what the fuss is about.
Danthrax said:
Huelen, we hereby demand photos of your basement.
I don't have one, and I am not an alt of anyone, the moderation and administration can confirm this. I've done no wrong, this is hardly basis for being labeled as an act of "retardation" as someone put it. All I wanted was to share that I was trying to clear a doubt that some in the community have been wondering about. If you have a beef with me, that's what the PM box is for. I don't troll, I don't flame, and I don't put up with bullshit for too long. Good night.
 
HUELEN10 said:
EDIT:

I am actually doing this mainly to figure out if I can find evidence to confirm, or debunk the sprite/model thing. The smile thing was just a nice find while I was analyzing frames.

I see. Well that's a rational reason to analyze the video IMO. You seemed really, really excited about finding the smile, though, so you seemed like you fell off the rocker....
 
JaseC said:
I can understand the DKC hate, but DKC2 and 3 looked fantastic.

I just never liked the way any of the games looked. :/

Something about the false 3D that was already awful for 3D being posed as 2D instead of just being well drawn 2D rubbed me the wrong way. Compare ANY of the DKC games to Yoshi's Island, for instance.
 
HUELEN10 said:
I don't have one, and I am not an alt of anyone, the moderation and administration can confirm this. I've done no wrong, this is hardly basis for being labeled as an act of "retardation" as someone put it. All I wanted was to share that I was trying to clear a doubt that some in the community have been wondering about. If you have a beef with me, that's what the PM box is for. I don't troll, I don't flame, and I don't put up with bullshit for too long. Good night.

I was kidding, and faintly hoping you'd deliver funny pics of a basement. I wasn't the one to liken your posts to retardation.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Here we go! For this I recommend downloading this 720p framegrab pak that I've put together. We're gonna observe some things about Sonic! First of all is the fact that just like in Sonic Unleashed, this model (or possibly pre-rendered sprite based on a model, more on that later) is smiling, presumably at all times, but kinda hard to make out with the supposed flat toon shader thing's got.
263c8lu.png

See?

Take a look for yourself. Frames 1, 9, 13, 33, 34, 45, 43, 51, and 53 seem to all be blatant "smile frames". Pretty cool, no?

I am currently now analyzing if any of these are identical in position. It's taking a while, but maybe with some more digging, we can find out once and for all if it is models, or pre-rendered sprites! Post if you find anything new!

EDIT: The main reason I am doing this is for the sprite/model thing. The smile finding was just something that happened while analyzing frames.
HUELEN10 said:
Well, people elsewhere have been trying to analyze every little thing, you know with the whole supposed other stages hidden in the rest of the trailer and whatnot, this is jut analyzing the blatant. I don't see the problem.

And yes, I have gone through every full frame of the footage, but just the footage, none of that "hidden BS". Now that's a little too much, at least IMO.
You have a Sonic love pillow, don't you...

At the least, I think this calls for a new tramp stamp for you, something featuring Sonic sporting a bulge and a now proven to be official smile. You can find proof for the "bulge" later.
 
cicero said:
You have a Sonic love pillow, don't you...

At the least, I think this calls for a new tramp stamp for you, something featuring Sonic sporting a bulge and a now proven to be official smile. You can find proof for the "bulge" later.
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Ah leave the kid alone, hes a good sonic fan in a sonic thread, I dont see anything wrong with that. At least he has a positive attitude (which may be why GAF is so perplexed, lol)
 
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