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Persona 4: Dancing All Night is awful
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chrominance
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The music and visual style are easily the best parts of the game, and they're quite good. The story does get better after the first few chapters, and anything that doesn't concentrate on the main cast isn't totally awful. Everything that DOES focus on the main cast is just a poor rehash of Persona 4 and it's incredibly tiresome for the repetition. And the rhythm gameplay itself is not good. Pretty much every rhythm game I played last year felt better to play than DAN did--not only have the charts apparently never heard of triplets or swing notes, the difference between the last two difficulties is a gulf where Hard gives you Excellents with ease, and King Crazy fails you for glancing at the chart slightly askew.
I could have done without the last hotsprings scene, but everything else was fine to very good.
Wowfunhappy
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I haven't played this game because I pretty much expected it to suck, but isn't it essentially a reskined Project Diva?
If it is, it's hard for me to imagine that the core music gameplay is that bad.
For example:
Not sure what you read, but this Isn't the case at all.
Project Diva is a very competent Rhythm game—it's my favorite rhythm game period, to such an extent that I can't really imagine anything else topping it, at least at this point. The way that the notes stay in sync with the video, and move in patterns which are consistent but only discernible with practice... it's just masterfully set up.
It's also designed to fit Vocaloid-style music, so I never expected it to translate too well to Dancing All Night, but it can't be THAT horrible. What did they do to screw up so absolutely?
If it is, it's hard for me to imagine that the core music gameplay is that bad.
For example:
Not sure what you read, but this Isn't the case at all.
Project Diva is a very competent Rhythm game—it's my favorite rhythm game period, to such an extent that I can't really imagine anything else topping it, at least at this point. The way that the notes stay in sync with the video, and move in patterns which are consistent but only discernible with practice... it's just masterfully set up.
It's also designed to fit Vocaloid-style music, so I never expected it to translate too well to Dancing All Night, but it can't be THAT horrible. What did they do to screw up so absolutely?
Yeah this guy's right.
Definitely not. I dislike Project Diva, but I enjoy P4D and Xonic.
Well if you are going mainline game stories, it's apparent that the storytelling has deteriorated since P2. Granted P2 is very hard to top though
If you're playing it for the story... I dunno what to tell you. 
The story is as cheesy as.
The character interactions were kind of amusing, but that's it.
The gameplay itself was pretty fun. Still not a fan of the buttons going to the outside of the screen though, and the ranking system was just abysmal on harder difficulties.
I think the bigger disappointment for me was more that while there was a few good remixes, I didn't care for a good number of them.
The story is as cheesy as.
The character interactions were kind of amusing, but that's it.
The gameplay itself was pretty fun. Still not a fan of the buttons going to the outside of the screen though, and the ranking system was just abysmal on harder difficulties.
I think the bigger disappointment for me was more that while there was a few good remixes, I didn't care for a good number of them.
D1renegade
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I didn't realize user impressions were so mixed...
This thread has just saved me some money
This thread has just saved me some money
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I know it's well within reason for them to milk this series' fanbase (above quote cited as evidence), but something about this particular cash-in seemed really half-hearted. I mean, at least Q seemed to have some heart behind it, and a cool EO pedigree even if the writing sucks. I'm predicting that 5 won't have this deep level of fan devotion though, not at least to the point of making three spin off games of.
Blue Ranger
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are you a persona fan? it's a game made for persona fans
MillionStabs
Banned
It's not the best rhythm game, but it's serviceable as a Persona 4 spinoff. The music is absolute 10/10 though, all the tracks are amazing
Movalpolos
Banned
Story is absolutely awful. But I think I was getting really tired of it after P4A. Ultimax was trash story-wise too but DA really took my patience past my limit. Ended up skipping nearly everything...
Remembrance
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I have never heard of this game for the entire lifespan of the PS2, including the year when I went raiding GameStops for obscure $2 games. This is truly, truly obscure.
But judging by this thread, I think we should not be expecting many more choreography/character/story-oriented rhythm games for the foreseeable future. Project Diva aside.
It's the only rhythm game I can recall ever playing where the notes just never felt quite right.
And for as much as I love Persona music, I'm not a huge fan of a surprising amount of the remixes. Heartbeat Heartbreak may as well be an entirely new song considering they drastically changed what made the original song so great. Seriously, we got this bizarro version with no flow while this cool af version was relegated to the P4D Advanced CD. I'd rather take a loop of the original song than what we got [because the original sounds sooo good].
Unfortunately, I didn't really enjoy playing the songs that I do like just because I couldn't get behind the gameplay.
And for as much as I love Persona music, I'm not a huge fan of a surprising amount of the remixes. Heartbeat Heartbreak may as well be an entirely new song considering they drastically changed what made the original song so great. Seriously, we got this bizarro version with no flow while this cool af version was relegated to the P4D Advanced CD. I'd rather take a loop of the original song than what we got [because the original sounds sooo good].
Unfortunately, I didn't really enjoy playing the songs that I do like just because I couldn't get behind the gameplay.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Great, great rhythm game. Story mode was cheesey, but the actual rhythm gameplay is great. I'm sorry you didn't bond with it, OP.
I really enjoyed the concept of the items being the means by which you can make the game easier/harder.
But the charts just don't flow well and that really, really hurts the game for me. The music, though, is fantastic. I don't regret importing it at all but it kills me how good it could've been with better charts.
But the charts just don't flow well and that really, really hurts the game for me. The music, though, is fantastic. I don't regret importing it at all but it kills me how good it could've been with better charts.
chrominance
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I don't think we know what engine Dancing All Night was built on. Dingo, the developers of the PSP Project Diva games, were attached to the project very early on, but later trailers removed all mention of Dingo and it's widely assumed they were taken off the project and the game overhauled.
I'm fine with Project Diva; I played Diva f right after Dancing All Night and enjoyed it a lot more despite it being harder. I don't know what the Dancing All Night engine can or cannot support, but the charts are definitely off under certain circumstances. This post explains a lot better than I can on a phone.
snow in jamaica
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Admiral Snackbar
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I loved it, but the story is VERY basic. Even with that, though, it's the 'final' ending for the P4 series. We meet the characters again after the P4G epilogue and see what their lives are now. Older and somewhat wiser but still kids.
It's no where near the actual main game, of course. I dunno, I'm an easy sell on this kind of stuff.
It's no where near the actual main game, of course. I dunno, I'm an easy sell on this kind of stuff.
cj_iwakura
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No idea who or what that is, honestly.
Deft Beck
Member
I was talking about P4
AN, not Project Diva.Also, DAN is nothing like Project Diva.
I only played like 8 hours of Persona 4, didn't feel like playing more, and I still loved Dancing All Night.
It's unusual that I liked it so much, as it's pure fan service, but I did. The songs were great and the dances were great.
levelplane
Neo Member
Izanagi slappin da bass made me burst out laughing. It was golden.
Seems like story, difficulty, and charts are lacking.
Sure does look slick and pretty though.
Also, characters became fully developed in p4, there isnt much room for them to grow in the spin offs.
Edit: Some of the non dancing ost is actually really good.
Seems like story, difficulty, and charts are lacking.
Sure does look slick and pretty though.
Also, characters became fully developed in p4, there isnt much room for them to grow in the spin offs.
Edit: Some of the non dancing ost is actually really good.
Modest Mauser
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The game isn't much like Project Diva in execution. Project Diva can handle triplets and such, but DAN most certainly cannot, so the charts are mostly just not satisfying.
The game's music and visuals are great. They should have dropped story mode, there was no need for it. And if there had been a more competent team handling the gameplay and rhythm charts the game could have been much better.
I skipped DAN because it looked bad to me. I think I'll continue to do so.
Marie shows up quite a bit.
I put down P4DAN a good while ago and haven't gone back yet. The story to the point I got to was meh at best and the musical numbers were the real stars of the show. I'll break it out and beat it eventually, but hopefully this is finally the end of P4 spin-offs. That horse was dead by the end of PQ, and I enjoyed that game.
Game was very long and the final dungeon took a considerable amount of time to complete. Story was okay, but
Tons of nods to both P3 and P4G if you are into that sort of thing, which is probably one of the areas it does shine. I personally liked the EO-style of dungeon, though the last few areas feel like they drag on a bit more than I would have liked. Again, that last section went on for pretty much ever and could have been cut down a little.
Game was very long and the final dungeon took a considerable amount of time to complete. Story was okay, but
entirely pointless for anyone other than the two new characters as there is (of course) a memory wipe to explain away how this game could even happen.
Tons of nods to both P3 and P4G if you are into that sort of thing, which is probably one of the areas it does shine. I personally liked the EO-style of dungeon, though the last few areas feel like they drag on a bit more than I would have liked. Again, that last section went on for pretty much ever and could have been cut down a little.
chrominance
Member
Digging through the old Dancing All Night OST again, found this video clip illustrating how bad the charting is. Like, at that point you might as well mute the audio.
Fortinbras
Member
In enjoyed playing the game. I liked the music and even got the Platinum trophy.
I skipped all of the story cutscenes though. I did the same in both Persona fighting games.
I skipped all of the story cutscenes though. I did the same in both Persona fighting games.
Wowfunhappy
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I apologize for my earlier post, I looked up some gameplay videos and realized it's nothing like Project Diva.
I hadn't seen any gameplay since the initial reveal trailer... for some reason, I remember it looking like a Project Diva clone back then. Can't tell if I'm imagining things or not.
I hadn't seen any gameplay since the initial reveal trailer... for some reason, I remember it looking like a Project Diva clone back then. Can't tell if I'm imagining things or not.
...what the hell? I don't know exactly how the rhythm mechanics work, but those are some really weird and off-beat, uh, beats. I guess the charting itself has a beat, but it doesn't seem to go along with the actual song very well.
I don't think P4A/U/D/Q have bad stories... they're just all weaker rehashes of P4. Which puts them about on par with most budget JRPGs these days. They're mostly just bad in comparison. P4A/U could've been great if it wasn't split into two games and was 50 hours shorter.
P4 Dancing has a bunch of silly rookie rhythm game mistakes and some hit and miss remixes. Scoring and failure state systems were stupid. Presentation was fantastic. Doesn't help that it's pretty light on content/songs compared though.
Although I haven't played SuperBeat yet, the second best music game on Vita is Technika Tune (needs to be on an arcade size screen) and the best is
.
P4 Dancing has a bunch of silly rookie rhythm game mistakes and some hit and miss remixes. Scoring and failure state systems were stupid. Presentation was fantastic. Doesn't help that it's pretty light on content/songs compared though.
Although I haven't played SuperBeat yet, the second best music game on Vita is Technika Tune (needs to be on an arcade size screen) and the best is
Lumines: Electronic Symphony
Modest Mauser
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chrominance
Member
This is why Dancing All Night was my biggest disappointment last year. I wanted it to be so good. I was willing to accept P4A-level story because Persona music + rhythm game was a no-brainer, right? And yet they fucked it up anyways. When you really get into a groove in other games, you just concentrate on the music and stop thinking about individual inputs, and everything just flows. I got this out of IA/VT, I got this out of Project Diva and Project Mirai, I got this out of DJMAX Technika Tune and Superbeat Xonic and Rock Band 4 and Guitar Hero Live. I got it from fucking Amplitude, and people disliked that game for a sheer lack of content but it still had that flow. The only game I didn't get this from is Dancing All Night.
Aizo
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Palculator
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Story was meh, Free Mode was awesome. Well, at least when you crank up the difficulty but that's rhythm games for ya.
Pretty sure it was basically Persona-skinned Project Diva when it was first shown off. But it was known for quite a while how much change was made when devs switched.
Or maybe we're both crazy and I'm also imagining things.
My man. Marie sucks. Also I hate the new epilogue.
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