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[stupei]

Way more complicated than that, dudes. You can be far left and be into Clinton.

The only real liberal opinion is to always and only agree with the policy that sounds like it is furthest left, no matter the feasibility or potential impact. Anything else and you might as well be a Republican hack!

 

[mcfrank]

Or I think Bernie is a crap candidate with a decent message

That's a bingo

 

[GYODX]

because I don't want the possibility of this getting super ugly down the stretch for no reason.

The sooner Hillary can completely focus on Trump and start hammering him the better

Also if you as a candidate say, "Are you ready for a political revolution?" after you just lost five out of five states, you deserve to be torn apart and shit on.

Lol, get over yourself.

 

[plagiarize]

this is fantasy.

of course it is.

sure, something like ACA would be a conservative proposal in the UK, but that's only because it's far to the right of what they already have, vs here in the US where it was to the left of what was in place.

you can't take someone's policies out of the context of what they're replacing. and yet people do all the time.

 

[Azzanadra]

No, Harpers government wasn't left of Hillary, this is a ludicrous notion.

Yes it was. Maybe near the end they went a bit insane, but they didn't try anything craz during most of their tenure. They didn't take away free health care, they weren't as hawkish as Clinton and Harper never tried to (seriously) curb same-sex marriage (or abortion) whereas Clinton has been quoted to be against it as recent as 2010.

 

[Hellsing321]

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

Is there a liberal purity test too? I didn't know

Yeah, apparently Gun Control Advocacy is an optional requirement for being a "super liberal" now.

 

[pigeon]

Everyone's so "anyone but Trump" and came to the conclusion that Hillary was the best one to accomplish that. What if that's not the case? Hillary isn't exactly a lock for anything (like what happened in 2008, despite everything in 2007). What if Sanders was the one, but everyone was just too blinded by this "unelectibility" narrative and ignored the fact that he's potentially a better candidate?

And if Sanders fans are going to be blamed for whatever bad happens (IF something bad happens), then I don't see why Hillary fans can't be blamed for sticking with a wrong decision, despite a better one being available. Me personally, I'm not blaming anyone for anything, but this blame game is a two-way street.

This post and the others like it should be in the dictionary next to "concern troll."

If Hillary loses I'm not going to worry that maybe Bernie could've won. There's zero evidence that he would be a better candidate, so there no reason to think he would do better in the general. I don't plan on sitting around wondering if we should've nominated Martin O'Malley either.

 

[Pryce]

There are reasons to dislike Bernie in spite of his progressive policies.

Hillary is close enough, and a better candidate. It's not like she's a conservative.

Her being close enough is not my point.

It's so called progressives actively cheering his demise. A candidate running on a single payer? Free college? Loudly proclaiming trickle down economics is crap? That's gaf's wet dream.

Liking Hillary for one reason or another is fine. Vote for who you want. But loudly cheering against a person running on those platforms just hurts my brain if you're a Democrat.

The only real liberal opinion is to always and only agree with the policy that sounds like it is furthest left, no matter the feasibility or potential impact. Anything else and you might as well be a Republican hack!

I never said this.

 

[digdug2k]

Is it ok to say how excited I am to have a woman for our next president yet?

 

[Steel]

Am I seeing "No True Scotsman" arguments in this thread?

 

[soundahfekz]

Way to miss my point.

A super liberal guy runs for president and I see so called progressives on here cheering that he loses badly and for him to go away.

It's disappointing.

It's not Bernie it's his supporters who think they know what's best for everyone else especially black minorities.

Bernie did well in areas where people can afford for free college and free healthcare to fail and go "welp guys we tried"

Black people ain't got time for that shit. we need everything we can get and if that's brick by brick progressive policy then that's what it is

 

[mattiewheels]

So, what are the odds Kasich is being groomed for that contested convention these days?

 

[ant1532]

I for one am writing in David Bowie's name come November.

thats a vote for trump. don't do that to bowie's name, its an insult

 

[massoluk]

Missouri is insane 1.9k for GOP race, 1.3k for DEM race at 99%

 

[Y2Kev]

NBC called it!!!!! Missouri for queen!

 

[Thoraxes]

Wow MO on dems is close.

 

[GYODX]

Because people realize that while a lot of his points were great, it does not necessarily play well to the current United States. The US is extremely slow on change and any sudden movements are generally met with massive resistance. Because of that, people feel Hillary has a much better shot at the general election. And I know as a minority, I want to take zero risks of a GOP candidate winning an election.

Bernie is a positive. He has done well to force Hillary to address some very important issues. He should be commended for that. But he just isn't the right person I am fully confident in a general election situation.

Really, you wouldn't think so from the strange contempt certain Hillary supporters here seem to have for him.

 

[Kangi]

Is it ok to say how excited I am to have a woman for our next president yet?

It riles up some dudes when you say it, but screw it.

First female president let's go!

 

[ivysaur12]

Her being close enough is not my point.

It's so called progressives actively cheering his demise. A candidate running on a single payer? Free college? Loudly proclaiming trickle down economics is crap? That's gaf's wet dream.

Liking Hillary for one reason or another is fine. Vote for who you want. But loudly cheering against a person running on those platforms just hurts my brain if you're a Democrat.

Well, not all Democrats are super liberal. And there's a difference between cheering FOR someone and actively rooting against something.

I like Bernie. I like Hillary as a candidate more.

 

[Alcibiades]

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1vAGReykARjKl

Live info from Decision Desk. They just called Missouri for Trump.

 

[PolarBearsClub]

Her being close enough is not my point.

It's so called progressives actively cheering his demise. A candidate running on a single payer? Free college? Loudly proclaiming trickle down economics is crap? That's gaf's wet dream.

Liking Hillary for one reason or another is fine. Vote for who you want. But loudly cheering against a person running on those platforms just hurts my brain if you're a Democrat.

It's really as simple as this:

People like to see a candidate they support win.

 

[N.Domixis]

If Bernie wanted to be president he should have run when he was younger. He should still be good to run in 8 years. 80 is the new 60.

 

[seat]

I mean, I'll vote for Hillary in the GE, but I'm still confused why people are excited for her as a candidate. She's a female John Kerry.

 

[psynergylover]

FULL SWEEP!!!

Hillary wins MO

MSNBC

 

[gutter_trash]

MSNBC calls it

 

[cameron]

NBC says Missouri for Trump.

And Clinton.

 

[plagiarize]

Trump is good at thinking on his feet, whereas Hillary puts her foot in her mouth every time she tries to say something which isn't rehearsed beforehand. Her Reagan gaffe was particularly appalling.

If Hillary can engage Trump on her terms during the debates and try to beat him with policy discussion, she wins. If Trump can draw her into a more impromptu conversation which plays more into personality and quick-thinking replies, all bets are off.

The big difference is that Trump will be coming at her from the right, not the left. All of Clinton's gaffes showed her to be the pragmatist she is.

Again, we know what the reaction is when Trump attacks a woman, and it isn't going to win him support or cost Clinton her bases of women and minorities who will clinch the victory for Clinton in November.

 

[TheAbsolution]

MSNBC just called MO for HRC

 

[Leona Lewis]

MSNBC calls MO for political shapeshifter Donald Draper

 

[magnifico]

"Super liberal" is not just a box you check. There are areas, specifically guns, on which Bernie is far to the right of Hillary. It's also possible that someone, like myself, who is a liberal (and quite proud of it!) who simply has a different idea of how we should solve certain problems. Just because Bernie's the most liberal person in the room doesn't make him right on every issue.

But he's right on every issue.

 

[catmincer]

Missouri is at 99.9%. She's still winning. Grats Hillary.

 

[ivysaur12]

NBC calls MO for Trump. He just got a huge injection of delegates.

 

[marrec]

Yes it was. Maybe near the end they went a bit crazy, but they didn't try anything crazy. They didn't take away free health care, they weren't as hawkish as Clinton and Harper never tried to really curb same-sex marriage whereas Clinton has been quoted o eb against it as recent as 2010.

Please, almost everyone can be quoted as being "against" same-sex marriage circa 2010. The pivot happened in 2012 for all most high-level public officials. Anyone the Dems send to the white house will protect same-sex marriage.

And Harper was a fuckin' right wing nut in a more progressive country.

 

[Nickle]

I really hope that the same people who said that Sanders and Clinton are 93% alike aren't the same ones who think he's a bad candidate.

 

[Polari]

Trump is good at thinking on his feet, whereas Hillary puts her foot in her mouth every time she tries to say something which isn't rehearsed beforehand. Her Reagan gaffe was particularly appalling.

If Hillary can engage Trump on her terms during the debates and try to beat him with policy discussion, she wins. If Trump can draw her into a more impromptu conversation which plays more into personality and quick-thinking replies, all bets are off.

Trump's biggest issue seems to be his lazy prep. He looked much better last debate where you got the feeling he'd worked through some responses in advance.

 

[Iolo]

Is it ok to say how excited I am to have a woman for our next president yet?

It is very ok!

 

[Azzanadra]

Eh, if you want to use fictional characters to represent your desired candidate, Dany is the last person I would use. Maybe its a book reader thing, but I always thought of her as an entitled brat who did stupid shit whenever she didn't get her way.

Apologies for going off topic.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

Yeah, last 40 precincts in an area Trump is leading. It's over (and was over). Cue Trump's theme music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSemARaqGqE&t=1m12s

 

[massoluk]

Man, including that super delegates counts are just mean.

 

[User 463088]

But he's right on every issue.

He is not. Neither is Hillary.

Bernie is wrong on guns. He's wrong on health care (from a practical perspective). He's wrong on trade. He's right on a lot of things, but he's wrong on a lot too.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

And this is why things never happen. The so-called-revolution was originally supposed to happen in the goddamn sixties, and look were we are.

Baby steps unfortunately are a reality in the US. Would I prefer that obvious things happen overnight? Of course, but I'm also a historian. And history shows this isn't the reality in this country. And ultimately minorities are much better off today (despite the bullshit that goes on still) than they were 40-50 years ago. And as much as people are crying over Sanders tonight, I hope they along with all Dems realize the importance of mid terms and congressional/senate elections. That will accelerate further positive change versus winning general elections every 4 years and having massive setbacks two years later.

At this point, he's setup. Bernie gets people fired up, pulls Hillary leftward, and gets people to vote in their state and locals. Then a young Bernie stan fired up by this election takes it in 2020 or 2024. Then maybe you get a progressive President with an actual progressive Congress and state legislation to help him or her.

Bernie isn't getting another shot.

Yes, I meant another more progressive candidate by 2020+. Not Bernie himself running.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

Baby steps are needed in the United States. Hillary will get alot of progressive change through hopefully and make the US more acceptable of harder left leaning things that Bernie wants. You can't force them on people all at once like Bernie is trying to do right now. It wasn't a message that could win in November.

Just like the progress that has been made with gay marriage and marijuana the past decade. America is all about baby steps and Sanders would've been absolutely decimated in the GE.

 

[CMojicaAce]

 

[perfectchaos007]

Trump leads in Missouri by 0.1%

 

[ExVicis]

Her being close enough is not my point.

It's so called progressives actively cheering his demise. A candidate running on a single payer? Free college? Loudly proclaiming trickle down economics is crap? That's gaf's wet dream.

Liking Hillary for one reason or another is fine. Vote for who you want. But loudly cheering against a person running on those platforms just hurts my brain if you're a Democrat.



I never said this.

Don't get too upset about it. A lot of people seem to be treating Political Elections like a sport and cheering on candidates like a Team. So naturally a couple of them are gonna start trash talking people competing against their "Team" and get a little too personal about this despite the fact that at the end of this everyone's gonna (hopefully) be on the same team again.

 

[marrec]

Her being close enough is not my point.

It's so called progressives actively cheering his demise. A candidate running on a single payer? Free college? Loudly proclaiming trickle down economics is crap? That's gaf's wet dream.

Liking Hillary for one reason or another is fine. Vote for who you want. But loudly cheering against a person running on those platforms just hurts my brain if you're a Democrat.

Cheering a slightly less progressive candidates win does not invalidate your liberal street cred.

Hillary is a liberal, that's why her supporters and fans cheer for her.

 

[RootCause]

She's socially progressive, understands wage inequality and will work towards finding a solution for it, understands racial inequality.

I mean, Bernie has pulled her toward him in almost every respect. She's Bernie-Lite but a bit more hawkish in foreign policy.

There are multiple reasons to vote for her, but the only reasons I ever see to not vote are some vague Wall Street boogie men because she supported TARP or something and she's a bit of a hawk.

Ya, she won't raise minimum wage to 15/hr, but she'll raise it to 12/hr. That's indicative of all her progressive policy ideas.

To me, this is much better than antagonizing the Bernie supporters.

Personally, I can't ever see myself voting for a party that's filled with so much bigotry.

 

[Pryce]

Well, not all Democrats are super liberal. And there's a difference between cheering FOR someone and actively rooting against something.

I like Bernie. I like Hillary as a candidate more.

I get that. That's perfectly fine. I just don't like seeing other Dems rooting for him to fail.

That's all I'll say about this because I'm just repeating myself.

 

[foxuzamaki]

woo! MO for hillary