Bait image or not shit like that's been clogging up my newsfeed all day, comes with being a college student I guess. People can't seem to understand the ridiculous margins Sanders is going to need everywhere if he wants to even close the gap with those remaining delegates and it comes off as an idiotic persecution complex for the most part.
2 Super 2 Tuesday |OT| I'm Really Feeling (The Bern) (3/15, 3/22, 3/26 Contests)
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This is why I think Bernie needs to drop out sooner rather than later.
I understand people wanting to keep his message going, but Bernie stopped being about his message weeks ago. Lately his campaign has been resting on "Me vs. The Establishment/Media" style attacks and Hillary Clinton character attacks more than anything substantive regarding his own platform. And a large portion of his voters are eating it up, and are being groomed to hate the establishment for no other reason than them being the establishment.
As of yesterday, he's been effectively shut out of the nomination. If he's going to keep campaigning to save face, he needs to dial it way back and prepare his voters for the inevitability of a Clinton nomination. If he continues to campaign the way he has been the last few weeks, then he's just poisoning the well at this point.
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yeah... Ah, a candidate needs only half at that pie chart to win. And ... no, proportional... Votes...
So much wrong with that chart.
soundahfekz
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Man I wish I could live in a bubble and threaten to vote 3rd party or vote for Trump out of spite of my candidate losing. Must be nice for it to be statistically improbable that you'd be affected in a significant way regardless of what gets repealed or passed
lastflowers
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I wasn't. My family was staunchly opposed. Lets not start making wide, sweeping generalizations about the entire American public just to defend Hilldawg. She fucked up, and it weighs heavily in some constituents more than others. I'm one of those, and the worst her vote will predicate for me might be a vote for Green in a locked up D state. And yes, I'll continue to vote in Midterms like I have the last two opportunities.
Jesus Christ.
I think this is what has been distressing. In desperation, Sanders supporters have taken to unfairly smearing Clinton rather pushing their own platform. There's an image currently floating around my Facebook that says "If you vote for Hillary Clinton, you are voting for..." and then a 15-point list follows, claiming that a Clinton vote is a vote for things like "GMO Foods" and "The Death of Bees". That's right, that she-devil wants to murder all of our precious bees!
I don't think any of this nonsense will hold any sway in the 2016 General Election, but there's a concerted effort to show that everyone but Sanders is the devil. I fear this will ultimately result in apathy for mid-terms and future presidential elections.
She will personally seek and destroy every single bee.
If I could get her to take out the bumblebee that keeps assailing me when I walk out my back door, her warmongering bee policies will only strengthen my support.
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Bernie Sanders getting the endorsement of Polygon. 😂😂
I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all!
Vestal
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maabus1999
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What Bernie needs to do now is convert his message from a Presidency into some sort of an action that follows his vision. And the easiest way to do that is to use his delegates to basically state the Democratic party is committed to overturning citizen united and basically ask Hillary to make that a litmus test for a supreme court nominee as a platform piece. Honestly I think most Dems would support this by far and would be an easy platform change. Hillary may already be committed to this action, but allows Bernie to save face and show he actually got action on the center piece of his vision, can motivate his supporters to go out and vote DEMOCRATIC (doesn't necessarily have to say Hillary), and just decimate the GOP up and down the ticket.
And yes, I think the GOP is stupid enough to not accept an Obama nominee.
And yes, I think the GOP is stupid enough to not accept an Obama nominee.
They're just two or three steps away from Trump in terms of batshit insanity.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Bwhaha, I love it when gaming gets in my politics.
BlastProcessing
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yoooo
None of the GOP candidates seem to be actively campaigning in the states up next Tuesday, the first event any of them personally have is on Friday:
https://www.johnkasich.com/events/
https://www.tedcruz.org/events/
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule/
https://www.johnkasich.com/events/
https://www.tedcruz.org/events/
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule/
googleplex
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When you base a lot of your campaign on "Fuck the establishment!" You tend to attract a lot of low information voters.
foxuzamaki
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Trump will never be for the masses so that is a pointless scenario
Rentahamster
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Came across this interesting clip of Bernie while browsing video clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2SQzA363A
Not bad for 1995.　（Dude that Bernie chastises got sentenced to 8 years in jail in 2005 for bribery, BTW).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2SQzA363A
Not bad for 1995.　（Dude that Bernie chastises got sentenced to 8 years in jail in 2005 for bribery, BTW).
Especially when "the establishment" is "literally everyone who's ever worked to build the party into what it is today"
maquiladora
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#followthemoney #falseflag #illuminati #guyfawkesmask
Bullshit. There were massive anti Iraq war protests in Feb 2003
100,000 in New York
200,000 in San Francisco
1 million in London
1 million in Baghdad
1. 3 million in Barcelona
1 million in Rome
Dash_Riprock
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Everything I despise about Bernie supporters all in one image.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Yeah, saw this awhile ago. Bernie roasted that bastard
You despise Bernie supporters? That's a bit strong no?
Antiwhippy
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The sentence indicates that he despises the part about Bernie supporters as represented in that image.
Tbf if Clinton stops campaigning Bernie can still win. He can still win. He just needs a massive swing to him.
Not going to happen and can see why Clinton supporters are anxious. She's her own liability and the longer she's campaigning/defending her record the weaker she'll be at the general.
Not going to happen and can see why Clinton supporters are anxious. She's her own liability and the longer she's campaigning/defending her record the weaker she'll be at the general.
theignoramus
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Haha. Fabrications about Saddam sheltering Al Qaeda men, propaganda stories from the NYT about yellowcake powder, Rumsfeld and Powell telling tall tales about smoking gun evidence and WMD "around Baghdad and Tikrit"
I remember the con artistry well.
Don't worry everyone! No matter how many states Hillary wins, her Super Delegates will all just up and leave her for Bernie at the convention! And he's going to beat Hillary by 20% in her home state just watch!
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hodayathink
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If he wants to have an affect on the platform, then he needs to pick something better than asking her to make sure she overturns Citizens United. Because that's something she absolutely is going to do anyway. People keep bringing it up because they assume that since she has the big money donors and he doesn't, that she would want to keep it around. And they keep forgetting/ignoring that the whole case came about because Citizens United wanted to run ads against Hillary Clinton.
If he wants to have an effect on the platform with his delegates, get them to add language about raising the minimum wage to $15. Add language to the platform about dealing with rising college costs. But asking for her to make sure she overturns Citizens United is about the most useless thing he could do with those delegates.
I don't think most people who support him are like that.
balladofwindfishes
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She's said this was her goal for the SC since the beginning.
CU was a case brought up because people wanted to spend more money against her!
They are. They're covering this like a horse race still instead of showing the viewers the math, and the unlikelihood of Bernie gathering 60% of the remaining delegates
The kiss of death. Just ask MS. 😆
Heavy's Sandvich
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shortsFortallPeople
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bernie bros starting to remind me of hillaryis44 bros from 2008.
I don't necessarily believe Bernie won't stump for Hillary after he drops out, but the longer this race goes on, the harder I have to imagine it'll be that Bernie's supporters will actually bite and flock to Hillary's camp in November.
When you've been telling your supporters -- many of them first-time voters whose first experience of politics is this election cycle -- for the better part of a year that your primary opponent is bought and paid for by Wall Street, and that she's the face of a Washington/corporate/special interests establishment that has sold your jobs to other countries and rigged the economy against you, how in the hell do you turn around and then convince them, "well, but actually, you should vote for her after all?"
Bernie himself might acknowledge the importance of getting a Dem into the White House, but how do you tell millions of people who were inspired by a political revolutionary that they now have to settle for (in their view) the lesser of two evils? Especially when the other nominee has, like Bernie, been long flaunting his anti-establishment and special interest-free credentials?
When you've been telling your supporters -- many of them first-time voters whose first experience of politics is this election cycle -- for the better part of a year that your primary opponent is bought and paid for by Wall Street, and that she's the face of a Washington/corporate/special interests establishment that has sold your jobs to other countries and rigged the economy against you, how in the hell do you turn around and then convince them, "well, but actually, you should vote for her after all?"
Bernie himself might acknowledge the importance of getting a Dem into the White House, but how do you tell millions of people who were inspired by a political revolutionary that they now have to settle for (in their view) the lesser of two evils? Especially when the other nominee has, like Bernie, been long flaunting his anti-establishment and special interest-free credentials?
And that's exactly why I won't vote for her, and most likely not vote at all this fall. It would make me a huge me a hypocrite to vote against what I believe in and what Bernie has been fighting for. Hillary is a corporate shill and I will not give her my support
balladofwindfishes
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But you're doing just that by not voting...
What you believe in won't really matter in 20 years when President Trump's Supreme Court appointments are the ones to strike down every bit of a future Sanders like candidate's political agenda. Generations of work thrown away because you couldn't accept "the next best thing"
Well that's a really shitty thing to do.
And I'm not talking about not voting for Clinton, I mean not voting at all. How do you expect for change to happen if you don't let your voice be heard? The vote in November is for more than just the office of the President, you know. Even just placing your vote on whether or not your county should put up a new park is important.
If you are dissatisfied with the state of politics, you need to go out and change it yourself. By voting.
shortsFortallPeople
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you should still vote for local initiatives and members of congress. Not voting at all is weak as fuck.
The GoP wants to repeal the ACA, carpet bomb Syria, back out of the Iranian deal, take away LGBT rights, take away women's rights, considers protestors like BLM to be terrorists
But noooo, a supposed corporate shill. How awful, you know I really feel bad for you!
Grow up
Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how maintaining some juvenile dictionary-level interpretation of integrity for purely selfish and practically useless reasons is of greater value than taking a big picture approach, compromising - you know, the very thing democracy is built on - and making a pragmatic choice to support something superficially counter to your values over something deeply counter to you and your candidate's values. How is that not embracing the letter of integrity while rejecting the spirit of it?
This is exactly the kind of self-serving, unyielding, ivory tower privileged tunnel vision people have been criticizing politicians for for at the very least the last 20 years.
So let me get this straight:
Bernie supporters think Superdelegates are "Undemocratic" and want to get rid of them. But now they MUST have them to win, so they are justified in courting them. They call it "working within the system".
Clinton thinks Citizens United is Undemocratic, and has pledged to fill SCOTUS with liberals who will reverse it. But she needs campaign contributions to win, but she is a CORPORATE $HILL for courting them? How is that not "working within the system?
Bernie supporters think Superdelegates are "Undemocratic" and want to get rid of them. But now they MUST have them to win, so they are justified in courting them. They call it "working within the system".
Clinton thinks Citizens United is Undemocratic, and has pledged to fill SCOTUS with liberals who will reverse it. But she needs campaign contributions to win, but she is a CORPORATE $HILL for courting them? How is that not "working within the system?
You're voting for more than just the president.
Fine Ham Abounds
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So I'm honoring my commitment to sport this terrible avatar. Anyone who hates me can feel free to suggest how long I should wear this thing 
Colonel Mustard
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Down ticket races will have a greater effect on your life than the presidential race ever will. Don't vote for Clinton (I'm not) but still vote down-ticket--those are important as well.
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