A 16nm Polaris based APU becoming widely available for both Microsoft and Sony could be a huge determining factor here. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that Microsoft would be talking about iterating more frequently and now Sony is doing just that?
Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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A 16nm Polaris based APU becoming widely available for both Microsoft and Sony could be a huge determining factor here. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that Microsoft would be talking about iterating more frequently and now Sony is doing just that?
Fine Ham Abounds
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calm down there cowboy
By 'slim' I meant an upgraded console, not literally slimmer.
And YOUR Playstation runs newer games worse and worse, pushing the message in your face to buy the latest revision!
PC gaming, this is. You really want that?
themindkillah
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This isn't a portable with a low upgrade cost. Even then the new3ds was just... I don't see myself supporting consoles anymore if both Sony and Microsoft go along with these updated console plans.
Crayon
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It would have to be this. A halo product. I'd just be surprised if that was really worth it to them.
LookAtMeGo
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Maybe PS4 is finally getting cloud support.
Daffy Duck
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Snap.
protomouse
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Apple refreshes their Mac lineup annually and it works perfectly for them.
aygomyownroad
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End of the year you say?
I expect a hardware revision especially one that incorporates the VR box inside.
I don't think I could afford
a ps4 that was just an updated version.
E3 will be very interesting to say the least!
I expect a hardware revision especially one that incorporates the VR box inside.
I don't think I could afford
well twist partners arm
E3 will be very interesting to say the least!
Wishmaster92
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Please give us more details ;_;
amazing
RadioJoNES64
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Really can't wait for the PS4.5 4k ReMIX
qa_engineer
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I don't have a hard time believing it now that we know AMD and Nvidia are moving to finfet tech, meaning consoles can pack r9 nano spec chips into little tiny boxes and still meet TDP/heat thresholds. Granted I still think this whole thing is bunk.. unless there is a external GPU upgrade incoming a la AMD's Xconnect.
twisted h3art
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even if this is not true, future console gens are going to be more iterative and not revolutions like the generations of yore.
There is absolutely no need for any of the players to go for another "reset" when they can just iterate on their current userbase.
Especially Sony, who is firmly market leader, has no interest to start from zero again.
There is absolutely no need for any of the players to go for another "reset" when they can just iterate on their current userbase.
Especially Sony, who is firmly market leader, has no interest to start from zero again.
gutterboy44
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Can I like just get the season pass and get the next few consoles cheaper?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Im realy confused why people are so upset about this. Do you think that there are going to be games that will only run on this console or something?
Realistically the games in development right now and at least for the next year or so are too far along even if the devs wanted to update them to a higher spec.
So this PS4k will just
:- Uprez content that will still work fine on your launch console.
:-Include the breakout box already available for your Launch console.
Really its just a slim. Especially if they launch it at $299
Realistically the games in development right now and at least for the next year or so are too far along even if the devs wanted to update them to a higher spec.
So this PS4k will just
:- Uprez content that will still work fine on your launch console.
:-Include the breakout box already available for your Launch console.
Really its just a slim. Especially if they launch it at $299
Thanks for the response. Confusion from devs doesn't sound too good. Hm. :/
Pokemaniac
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So, around the same time NX is supposed to release. Interesting.
No, Rigby went on and on about how the launch ps4 will support 4k bluray. Does not appear that is the case.
Damn, I hope the PS4 has good trade-in value...
If true, it might follow what they did with the PSP where they had a more capable version but the extra power was mostly to beef up OS features and when their base of upgraded PSP install base got high enough they allowed devs to use a higher clock. Would a new version be fore more robust OS PSVR features?
Yeah, that's probably why I'm skeptical. It doesn't help their publisher partners or the people who bought the current PS4. Just more work and more money to spend to play.
I don't think this will be a 4K box in the sense of playing Uncharted 4 or Horizon at 4K, but like Obliterator said the new box might allow for smaller games (like Salt & Sanctuary for example) to run in 4K. It will get pushed as the PS4 Slim along with PSVR in the holiday season.
What if the fan is not included in Season pass #1?
That's not how it works. Just because you have better hardware doesn't mean games tuned for an older platform will simply run better. Bloodborne's frame pacing isn't going to magically change.
announcement at the end of the year (PGW or PSX) or released at the end of the year?
Mashin Haters
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incoming Playstation For Life subscription plan.
gutterboy44
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Is the fan already in the console and you pay to unlock it or did they actually take the time to build the fan after releasing the console? Cause if it is the former, fuck them!
ALLseeingEYE
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Comparing a potential console market of subsequent hardware revisions directly to iOS is disingenuous.
Sony have always had strict software compliance, and I sincerely doubt that would change at all. Also, we aren't looking at hundreds of different configurations here, we are looking at 1-2 different setups at first, with that number potentially ballooning up to 5-10 over the next 10 years.
This number is a drop in the bucket compared to the current compatibility testing a PC game has to go through, where you are literally looking at hundreds, if not thousands of different configurations. This would be very manageable, especially if most companies plan on doing PC ports anyways.
Can I hug you? That is exactly how I feel about it. Everything you said in that quote.
Fine Ham Abounds
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It worked for Autodesk
Welfare
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What I'm thinking with these upgrade units is that while the PS4 and PS4.5 are out, devs make games with the PS4 in mind, and the 4.5 owners get those games at higher resolutions and framerates. As the years go on, devs start focusing game development on the 4.5, and leaving behind the 4 owners. Sorta like how devs act when transitioning to a new hardware gen.
As this is happening, with exclusive experiences being made on the PS4.5, Sony releases the PS5, having the PS4 made obsolete, and those users migrate to the PS5. PS5 would run PS4.5 games better, and would have exclusive games by Sony/AAA to encourage users to upgrade to the PS5. PS4.5 users don't need to upgrade just yet as they know a PS5.5 will come out and they are getting most of the games the PS5 is getting, just running worse.
It'll turn into a cycle of X > X.5 > X2 > X2.5, with X being made irrelevant once X2 is out, and X1.5 being made obsolete once X2.5 is out. Still the same "cycle" of when to upgrade hardware, but now with a mid gen upgrade that you can jump into if you so choose.
link1201
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Exciting times!
DangerMouse
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rokkerkory
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okay holding off PS4 purchase til end of year then
Chip N Chance
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I, like allot of people, dont own a 4K tv. So yeah 4K is not important. Resolution and graphical changes are different thing you know. Higher res textures, anti aliasing, physics enhancements. The usual PC options are what i mean when i say graphical upgrades. Also frame rate. If its just 4K than i could not care less.