Exactly. Modern AAA at 4K chews up Titan X's and spits them out. Without Sony actually using something that has substantially better performance/watt and doubles the thermal envelope (LOL)- this all seems more like a joke on the internet than an actual reality.
Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Exactly. Modern AAA at 4K chews up Titan X's and spits them out. Without Sony actually using something that has substantially better performance/watt and doubles the thermal envelope (LOL)- this all seems more like a joke on the internet than an actual reality.
I'm okay with this. Time to check how much a 4k TV costs.
Nameless
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But you don't have to. Just like people don't have to upgrade their video card every time a new line launches. It's also presumptuous to think updates will happen with that type of regularity.
Mister Megative
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I'll send you my copy of Prince of Persia starring Jake "please buy that I'm a Persian" Gyllenhal.
SDCowboy
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Oh my.
wonderful103
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Nobody said you'd be playing uncharted 4 at 4K. Time to retire the bird
I love how some people are thinking this will suddenly bring the games we play today on PS4 and in the future hit 60 fps at 1080p or even 4K. We barely get games at a solid 30fps now and an incremental hardware upgrade isn't suddenly going to out perform a high end PC. I expect a slight upgrade to specs and conveince, PSVR stuff bundled in the system for example.
Also I remember for the longest time Patrick being bitter that during the whole Microsoft DRM reveal and months leading up to E3 he constantly was of the viewpoint of just wait Sony is going to do the same thing because publishers are calling the shots this time. He had sources than and he got it wrong even saying afterwards he was still hearing chatter of that happening and Sony must have ditched that plan last minute. Perhaps his Sony sources aren't as strong? Maybe this is in such early talks that it still has the possibility of never coming out? Jeff Gertsmann of Giant Bomb has said in the past he was hearing some pretty strong rumblings of Microsoft doing this with the 360 and that never came about so this could be a similar case.
Also I remember for the longest time Patrick being bitter that during the whole Microsoft DRM reveal and months leading up to E3 he constantly was of the viewpoint of just wait Sony is going to do the same thing because publishers are calling the shots this time. He had sources than and he got it wrong even saying afterwards he was still hearing chatter of that happening and Sony must have ditched that plan last minute. Perhaps his Sony sources aren't as strong? Maybe this is in such early talks that it still has the possibility of never coming out? Jeff Gertsmann of Giant Bomb has said in the past he was hearing some pretty strong rumblings of Microsoft doing this with the 360 and that never came about so this could be a similar case.
Cow Goes Moo
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ps4.5 is probably true, ps4k at a reasonable price isn't true in this reality
PSVR's worst nightmare is Sony releasing an entirely new console in the same time frame of its launch.
Mister Megative
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Nah. 2018.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Clearly kotaku has started april fools early and gaf mods/insider's are in on it
Mister Megative
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Did you hear that Half-Life 3: a Portal to a New Team Fortress will be at e3?
If all this turns out to be true I will likely bite, right now it sounds a little too good to be true and has me looking for the catch.
Gormenghast
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If Microsoft does it, Sony will be forced to do it.
No one can compete in the market if the other changes the rules.
Who's gonna lose in all this? Just the customers. So not only we have 2-years planned obsolescence cycle on PC, but maybe now on consoles too.
No one can compete in the market if the other changes the rules.
Who's gonna lose in all this? Just the customers. So not only we have 2-years planned obsolescence cycle on PC, but maybe now on consoles too.
Has a really nice ring to it.
SlimySnake
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why did you wait this long?
this product isnt for you. its for early adopters who care for the latest and greatest in tech.
if you really care about this then just return your PS4. pay the 15% restocking fee and wait for the latest model.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Remember guys, these rumors aren't new. Sony has been dying for PS4 to support 4K. Here's an article from February 2013, right when the console was announced.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...ll-work-with-ps4-require-100gb-plus-downloads
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4...ll-work-with-ps4-require-100gb-plus-downloads
Either 4k gaming will be reserved for some indie games or the price in that bullpark is BS.
ArchedThunder
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It would just make existing games run at a more stable frame rate, future games would probably either look or run quite a bit better and some devs will probably go back and do updates to some games to be enhanced on the new hardware.
The PS4.5 (if real) will almost definitely be the strongest piece of hardware sony could release in 2017 for $400.
Basically a new console, but not in the traditional generation reset sense because all the games would still be compatible with the base PS4, at least for the first few years.
tiredheadcrab
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Would these things be the Zen we have been hearing about? Or polaris? I they havent been released yet and dont they need to manufacture these things before they start putting them in the plastic boxes?
DangerMouse
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So in other words you agree with me despite your rude response. How was I off the mark when this was the point. More and more complex games to test and yet more versions to test.
If Nintendo went with iterative hardware for the NX, it would be an interesting way to keep up with Sony and Microsoft power-wise. Again, it would be about providing console users with more options. Nintendo could theoretically have multiple options: one for people who just care about the handheld, one for people who want to play those games on a TV without spending too much money, and one for people who want the high-end AAA games. Perhaps big western publishers would only support the high-end model.
I personally don't think there's a high chance of that happening soon, but it's something to think about. Even if not soon, if Nintendo decides to iterate on the NX platform indefinitely, you could eventually get models powerful enough to run AAA games.
Bam. This is what people using phones and PCs already figured out. If developers don't fuck this up, you don't HAVE to upgrade. Most PC gamers don't buy titans. Most phone users don't keep up with the very latest iPhones. Console users don't seem to have let go of the idea of consoles being the bleeding edge.
If all console manufacturers do this it'll be interesting to see the gap between consoles and PC shrink. However, I think PC developers will continue to target the most popular graphics cards. Right now that card is the 970 -- an upper mid-range card, and that's what you're seeing most AAA PC games target for recommended settings.
If this goes how I think it will, what you'll see is the RE4 PS4 version come out later this year, then Capcom will simply release an update allowing it to run at 4K on the upgraded PS4. Maybe they'll release that update as paid DLC.
I personally don't think there's a high chance of that happening soon, but it's something to think about. Even if not soon, if Nintendo decides to iterate on the NX platform indefinitely, you could eventually get models powerful enough to run AAA games.
Bam. This is what people using phones and PCs already figured out. If developers don't fuck this up, you don't HAVE to upgrade. Most PC gamers don't buy titans. Most phone users don't keep up with the very latest iPhones. Console users don't seem to have let go of the idea of consoles being the bleeding edge.
If all console manufacturers do this it'll be interesting to see the gap between consoles and PC shrink. However, I think PC developers will continue to target the most popular graphics cards. Right now that card is the 970 -- an upper mid-range card, and that's what you're seeing most AAA PC games target for recommended settings.
If this goes how I think it will, what you'll see is the RE4 PS4 version come out later this year, then Capcom will simply release an update allowing it to run at 4K on the upgraded PS4. Maybe they'll release that update as paid DLC.
Mister Megative
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*I'm the source. Please be excited for 4Krash Bandicoot, coming this fall to PS4 Vita.
Well... Reading some comments of GopherD on the "Microsoft unifying PC/XB1 platforms, Phil implies Xbox moving to incremental upgrades" thread it seems he was very critic of the incremental upgrade solutions advocated by Phil Spencer... I don't know...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=197211235&postcount=159
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=197213698&postcount=336
-ImaginaryInsider
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I'm an early adopter, my PS4 is getting older, I'd upgrade if true with no bitter tears.
#TeamZoetis
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Kotaku's article seems legit, couple of different sources, reporter talking with developers...
Sony is most likely developing a more powerful PS4, little doubt about it at this point, they clearly said visuals will be better.
It will support 4K but it could/ probably be the same case as PS3 supporting 1080P gaming.
Why would Sony do that? Why Rockstar released GTA5 on next gen? cause they can make ton of money on the same fan base, if it will make people like me spend another 400$ than yea, it's worthy for them.
Consoles are closer than ever to PC, R&D is probably very low for them.
FinalStageBoss
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Gonna be a wild e3, zoetis you heard anything about Crash? 
LostDonkey
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I see what you did there.
ArchedThunder
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This wouldn't mean games would stop releasing on PS4, the PS4.5 would play the exact same games, they'll just look or run better on the new hardware.
Just 2 years old and some change.
Maybe you shouldn't use his simple statements with your speculation.
Your price is pure speculation.
Same goes for the 4K gaming stuff, could be simply just a "no" towards the mentioned "run slightly better".
You don't know, therefore this is baseless speculation.
His person opinion doesn't necessarly reflects the decisions made by his employeer.
However we should just wait until we know more actually.
MADGAME
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Perfect.
Orochinagis
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I dont think I can really afford to buy a new console.
Yeah this just dosen't add up. E3 this year will be insane.
D1renegade
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So what happens when the PS5 comes out? Surely PS5 games wouldn't be backwards compatible with the 4.5. Are you willing to spend several hundred dollars for something that would be obsolete when the next generation starts in a few years?
Nothing is adding up, lol
LostDonkey
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But that's a problem for a lot of people.
People want the best experience a platform has to offer. It's right to feel a little disappointed if you've just chucked 300 on a PS4 to find out a new, more powerful model is right around the corner (maybe) that could offer a better experience in games.
ArchedThunder
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You wouldn't have to.