Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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bananafactory
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If the rumour about Cerny pushing 4k for Knack 2 are real then this makes sense
It's the only way to achieve his true vision
It's the only way to achieve his true vision
I just can't buy into this upgraded model for end of year 2016 thing. It's just not feasible for Sony to put in an APU that does "4k gaming" this year. Sure, even the PS4 as it is could do 4k on some smaller titles, but they just don't have what's needed for that on a large scale. It makes no sense at all to expect them to build an AP capable of that any sooner than late 2018 at the very earliest.
And even if they could get an absolute MONSTER APU in there somehow this year it would be completely against Sony's current mandate of selling hardware at a profit. Something like this could only be done at a *massive* loss if they were selling it at a price people would actually buy it at. The logistics just don't match up at all.
Minor revision for HDMI2.0 and other small stuff just makes the most sense to me.
And even if they could get an absolute MONSTER APU in there somehow this year it would be completely against Sony's current mandate of selling hardware at a profit. Something like this could only be done at a *massive* loss if they were selling it at a price people would actually buy it at. The logistics just don't match up at all.
Minor revision for HDMI2.0 and other small stuff just makes the most sense to me.
The thing is they just bought them if they had know they would just wait and have better experience. If PS4.5 is true I think customers buying PS4 this year are getting a very bad deal not knowing it.
Could be also a simple statement towards nostalgic IPs that are coming back...
You know, the year of dreams as many people said after last years E3 and all those nostalgic reveals.
Sounds vastly more correct than a hint towards something people wouldn't be able to grasp anyway.
ArchedThunder
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If this rumor is true you can just throw the idea of generations out the window. Each new piece of hardware will be an upgrade of the last one.
A rose by another name is still a rose. If it is really called PS4.5 it's a sign of a new upgrade model. Where games are made to target the entire family of "PS4" systems. Through this model than can upgrade the PS more quickly. No need to leave 5-8 to compete a gen. They can put out a new hardware upgrade every 2-3 years. But if a game targets the PS4's then no matter what model you have, you can guarantee the game will run. Even if with a lower fidelity.
bananafactory
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I've been thinking about this all day and I think I'd be down for it depending on the price. I imagine 4k would be limited to lower budget indie stuff while AAA games could actually aim for 1080p/60.
Maybe they could finally get Broforce to run well at 1080
LostDonkey
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If anything this will ensure that the PS5 will be fully backwards compatible with the PS4. They will simply put in a bigger and better GPU and CPU with the same x86 architecture.
And yes, I am willing to spend $400 on a console that wont struggle to run games at 1080p and 30 fps like the PS4 does now.
Actually, if i trade in my PS4, i will only have to spend $200. I can either do that or spend $1,300 on a brand new to play games at 1080p and 60 fps or a res higher than 1080p.
All this is gonna do is make PC gaming look even better than it already is. This is why I doubt Sony will do incremental upgrades. Part of the reason consoles work is because you are essentially getting a bargain on custom PC parts + exclusive software (kinda not the case in present times).
But now with this? 4k gaming? Do they realize the cost of parts necessary to pull something like that off? Buying a PC and upgrading said PC is literally the smarter route.
In case you didn't notice: I REALLY HOPE SONY DOESNT DO THIS. I will be so sad if this is true. I don't know, man. It is all speculation, but I hope it doesn't happen. Please, Sony!
But now with this? 4k gaming? Do they realize the cost of parts necessary to pull something like that off? Buying a PC and upgrading said PC is literally the smarter route.
In case you didn't notice: I REALLY HOPE SONY DOESNT DO THIS. I will be so sad if this is true. I don't know, man. It is all speculation, but I hope it doesn't happen. Please, Sony!
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Broforce pushed them. You guys did this to yourself for voting for it for PS+.
Garrett Hawke
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there is no fucking way this is happening lol. modern high end GPUs which cost north of £500 can barely scrape 4K at console equivalent settings.
Nameless
Member
So the alternative is to stand pat with Nintendo while their competitors offer consumers more options while filling a proven demand? The reasons I'm hearing against this make me wonder how some people ever bring to themselves to purchase a piece of technology that's not a console, because the next best thing is ALWAYS around the corner.
And if the day comes when Sony releases games that exceed the the OG PS4's capabilities, upgrade or deal with it. Those games wouldn't be on the that hardware whether Sony provided a stronger alternative that could play them or not.
And if the day comes when Sony releases games that exceed the the OG PS4's capabilities, upgrade or deal with it. Those games wouldn't be on the that hardware whether Sony provided a stronger alternative that could play them or not.
There are no generations no more, only hardware revisions with newer, more powerful hardware whenever it seems right enough to do while maintaining a reasonable price point. This inside the same X86 architecture. The Playstation is a branded PC associated to a closed software ecosystem.
SenkiDala
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Well, at least for my case: I bought the PS4 when it was released but last summer I had to sell it for some reason. Just bought another one 2 weeks ago, and to me 400$ isn't little money... So I'd feel bitter if it turns out to be true.
Also it would be weird to lauch it at the same time than the PSVR, 1 year before yes, 6 months before yes, but at the SAME TIME, I mean they expect people to spend 1000$ just like that? I know Sony is popular but not THAT popular, the last time they tried those kind of tricks (launch of PS3), wasn't a good time for them...
If this is true, it will follow the "mobile upgrade format" if it is proven to be successful. Expect a hardware refresh every 1-2 years...
Silent Hill
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On a serious note, I can't see this happening. It just doesnt add up.
Firmus_Anguis
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I really hope this isn't true. The PS4 is good as it is!
Leave the "upgrading" to the PS5.
Besides, I don't want a new friggin' model every 1-2 years! Proper next-gen upgrade every 5 years or so - As it should be!
Leave the "upgrading" to the PS5.
Besides, I don't want a new friggin' model every 1-2 years! Proper next-gen upgrade every 5 years or so - As it should be!
DangerMouse
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Yeah, it would be brutal lol.
That's why the PC is dead
The problem with this is that the only beneficed games would be the new games.
This could be a New 3DS situation where so far MH4, Hyrule Warriors (maybe a few more) are the only games with upgrade version.
Aceofspades
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Technically, IF rumors are all true. PS4.5 can be considered a new gen.
I doubt these rumors myself.
In this day and age, I don't think the PC is all that cheaper hardware wise. It really is the difference in game prices that get you.
Even Sony's VR solution is going to be cheaper. Bumping up hardware to support 4K in an incremental cycle, and you still get the benefits of a dedicated console. Look, I'm a big PC guy. But this move my Sony only seems like it can be a good thing. Just because it isn't a full out PC model doesn't mean ware are getting a worse deal. It's consoles starting to be an even better deal.
Nealand Liquor
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If this happens the "Ps4 has no games" meme will become a reality?
travisbickle
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It's not happening. Don't people remember how sony was going to release a DRM machine too in 2013? It's the simplest way to spread rumours, the seed was set because MS was making some elusive comments about it.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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why? do we need to know something about the ps4.5's internet browser?
My point is no matter how it goes, it will make dev cost climb up. And they are already pretty damn high in this gen. Sales expectations are gonna be even more severe.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Oh fuck! BROWSER is going to get more memory allocated for it! Yeah, bitches!!!
Mister Megative
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Oh fucking shit son
Badlucktroll
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This shit makes me nervous. I would have to get one because i have a great 4k TV. Hopefully they don't screw us, and make it easy to get one. Otherwise its gonna flop hard.
Garrett Hawke
Member
But that still doesn't make any sense. There are literally no current gen games that could run at 4K on any consumer GPUs priced anywhere near what they'd be introducing a console at - so then what's the point? Indies? The Trine devs already said that they could've had Trine 2 running at 4K on current PS4 hardware. It just doesn't make any sense.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Frag Waffles
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It has to be. All signs are pointing toward moving away from traditional console lifecycles. Cutting off support for one platform in favor of the new one is part of that IMO. I agree, who is going to pay several hundred bucks for a brand new console, sit around for years for awesome AAA games, get smacked with a few additional delays, finally get a few great games, and then be told to buy the new platform and repeat that process? Not me. This gen is already bad enough, far too many studios still haven't even released a game. Consoles have to evolve and adapt to these ridiculous development times.
You don't see how a fully upgradeable PC is a better deal vs a PC that cannot be upgraded until the manufacturer sells you a whole new one?
This new console would be a worse deal for sure, imo.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Oh shit! They're already holding the discs!
Bruh, who's this Dragon Punch and why he is so right?!