NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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For those just catching up

  • Leaks of the same device a different leaker gave out appeared, black model this time
  • Game Informer states "yep that looks similar to what I heard, not confirming it tho"
  • Treehouse staff retweets this thread
  • A new leaked image appears on the internet, at another angle
  • Treehouse staff deletes tweet mysteriously later
  • Still waiting for a bold back of the unit image
  • TEAMREAL AND TEAMFAKE EMERGE

if someone from treehouse RT this thread it has to be fake.
 
This is looking real with each leak. I was okay with everything but the nubs. Nintendo's planning to use nubs instead of twin sticks? Are nubs better than using thumbsticks?
 
I'm really digging those wheely L and R buttons on the controller. Selecting items in games, zooming in or out of maps or switching to different camera views in an open world game. Hope this thing becomes a success so we can have all of that used properly. At least on that aspect.
 
#teamreal

But if this is fake and it very well could be, this would have to be the greatest hoax of the century. The amount of time and quality put into this is would be on an elite level.


Bravo either way!
 
#teamreal

But if this is fake and it very well could be, this would have to be the greatest hoax of the century. The amount of time and quality put into this is would be on an elite level.


Bravo either way!

I REALLY REALLY HOPE IT IS FAKE, I truly worry that it isn't, it sure looks to me like it's real. :(
 
What I don't get about "leaks" is why don't they show more angles? The back? The shoulders? The ports? It's not like 1 image and they're okay, but 2+ and they're fucked...
 
#teamreal

But if this is fake and it very well could be, this would have to be the greatest hoax of the century. The amount of time and quality put into this is would be on an elite level.


Bravo either way!

This was good too:

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Not sure if this has been brought up, but are laptops common in studio-level development?

Wouldn't it be more likely for a developer with access to development hardware to be working from a desktop?
 
There are several things most likely already pointed out in this thread that feel wrong about the controller:

1. Nintendo doubles down on the core feature of one of their biggest flops? The thing that made the Wii U unprofitable and expensive from the start. The thing Nintendo had a hard time again and again proving that they can develop games that need the 2nd screen. And when they had those games they couldn't market them properly.

2. No buttons? No digi-pad? Seems fishy still. They already went that way with the first presentation of the gamecube and had to adjust because everyone complained about the missing dpad and the lack of buttons.

3. The form factor. If real it may change from now to release, but it looks really uncomfortable to hold.

4. It's not really VC compatible. Yes, you could visualize any button you need, but what's the point if it's still a touchscreen? And why would they need the sticks, if they don't need buttons?

All in all I'm sceptic. I don't want this to be the direction for the next Nintendo console, but at the same time many things don't feel like they come from Nintendo. Hopefully this isn't it and if it's true, they would have to package a traditional controller with it.
Or be backward compatible to the Wii in regards to controllers again.
 
Some place everything else in this topic comes from: speculation based on inference.

I.E. They look non-functional. There is no visible means for the stick to move, not by any known design or engineering of analog sticks that we know of. They don't appear to be slidable sticks, as on the 3DS, as they appear to be one solid nub on one solid hemi-sphere. Further, the hemi-sphere which would traditional be sunk under the casing in order to pivot is instead a single solid piece fused with the flat ring surrounding it, and thus can not pivot as a "real" stick would. Compare:


Ergo, simplest explanation.

There's a possibility Nintendo has designed some sort of elaborate, convex, sliding nub that sits on top of a hemi-spherical dome for seemingly no reason when they already have perfectly usable designs for analog sticks and sliding pads, but is that the simplest explanation?

Apparently they function kind of like BB-8. A little disc sitting on top of a sphere that doesn't move.
 
There are several things most likely already pointed out in this thread that feel wrong about the controller:

1. Nintendo doubles down on the core feature of one of their biggest flops? The thing that made the Wii U unprofitable and expensive from the start. The thing Nintendo had a hard time again and again proving that they can develop games that need the 2nd screen. And when they had those games they couldn't market them properly.

2. No buttons? No digi-pad? Seems fishy still. They already went that way with the first presentation of the gamecube and had to adjust because everyone complained about the missing dpad and the lack of buttons.

3. The form factor. If real it may change from now to release, but it looks really uncomfortable to hold.

4. It's not really VC compatible. Yes, you could visualize any button you need, but what's the point if it's still a touchscreen? And why would they need the sticks, if they don't need buttons?

All in all I'm sceptic. I don't want this to be the direction for the next Nintendo console, but at the same time many things don't feel like they come from Nintendo. Hopefully this isn't it and if it's true, they would have to package a traditional controller with it.
Or be backward compatible to the Wii in regards to controllers again.

I agree with you. This just doesn't feel like the direction that Nintendo would go in from the Wii U.
 
But are you an expert?

I'm leaning towards this being a reference but if this is not: No, but I believe it should be understandable that you don't need to be an expert to assemble this. You definitely need to know more than the average person and have access to machines most people don't have, but I would never count myself as an expert, even if I could have once upon a time made a non-functioning version of this. Then again, with enough skill and resources related to manufacturing, a single person can make "close enough" replicas of almost any common device, which is pretty awesome.

#teamNintendopleasereleasesomeinfosoon
 
Who said it was intentional?

I know when I'm zooming in on images on my phone I don't worry if they are off-center or not.
You don't understand. When you zoom in on your phone, the perspective is obviously correct. Here, the perspective points to the bottom of the screen. The device displays an image that's off screen and the wrong image ratio. It's like it tried to display a JPG instead of generating an image.

Take two pictures of the same object with your phone, one with the object at the top of the screen, and the other at the centre. The images of the object will obviously not superpose, because the perspective is different. It's basic geometry.

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What I don't get about "leaks" is why don't they show more angles? The back? The shoulders? The ports? It's not like 1 image and they're okay, but 2+ and they're fucked...

It's not like this shot is difficult to identify either. You've got the tree, a fairly clear view of the work space. You have a Swedish keyboard. You even have a (badly printed) sticker that says "UNIT 2" on it.

You'd think Nintendo would be on the phone to all of the managers at their Swedish development partners (how many could there possibly be) saying "Hey, can you match these coffee stains with this Samsung monitor and UNIT 2 and get back to us?"
 
To be even more fair: wasn't there some evidence found in the code of the 3DS version that Chorus Kids might have been planned at some point? I seem to remember some weirdness of something like that, because I was obsessed with Chorus Kids making it into the game.

The closest thing was Sneaky Spirits appearing in Smash Run.
 
This is one of those "you were so preoccupied with whether or not you could that you never stopped to think if you should" scenarios, isn't it?

They were probably too far down the rabbit hole when they realized embedding an analogue stick into a screen was a useless idea.
 
Hoping someone more knowledgeable can answer this:

If the sticks have haptic feedback, would it be possible to emulate a d-pad and buttons so that they would "feel and click" close to the real thing?

I'd think this may be more reasonable and cost effective than a haptic touchscreen and would solve a handful of control issues for games with simple input
 
This is a good point, but don't different screen panel types look different when turned off? It could just not be TN like the Wii U Gamepad's scree is.. Not to mention the Gamepad has a resistive touch screen layer overtop, the NX might not.

Not 100 percent #TeamReal myself, but just pointing that out.

For some reason seeing those two images together makes this thing look for as hell.

Here's my reasons:
1) not durable. Nintendo still makes stuff for kids and they know this. They won't make something with an edge to edge glass display. Any really version of this would have a thick ass bumper on it that protrudes in front of the glass.
2) the rev units are normal consumer electronic colors. Typically Nintendo Dev units have a weird color scheme that identifies them as Dev units
3) Nintendo knows secrecy. The NDAs on this are probably staggering. It's easier for me to believe that some people decided to fake this than it is for me to believe that developers are risking their jobs and potential lawsuits. Nothing in Nintendos history suggests they would hesitate to sue the shit out of somebody that violated their NX NDAs
4) source from Nintendolife saying it's fake.
5) on closer inspection, the glass protrudes past the edge of the casing. This goes back to #1, and just makes me think it's an improbably design.
 
all I can do is cringe at the thought of playing another smash title or pokken with this controller. And then I'm reminded of how I hate playing games on my iphone
 
This is one of those "you were so preoccupied with whether or not you could that you never stopped to think if you should" scenarios, isn't it?

They were probably too far down the rabbit hole when they realized embedding an analogue stick into a screen was a useless idea.

It's cool tho right?
 
I didn't even notice the "confidential property sticker" lol

I like how he clearly cut the right edge of the sticker longer the then the left.
 
Is quite easy to notice how #teamfake and #teamhate (or #teamnogimmicks) have a huge overlapping. Fully understandable.

I should stop being in denial about my tiredness and really go to sleep now.
 
Dawg...

June 13-16 is going to be lit for E3 this year. Fuck, I better put in for PTO tomorrow at work just so I can watch it on the real lmao. Sure I got PTO for the end of June but I gotta make that extra time.
 
I agree with you. This just doesn't feel like the direction that Nintendo would go in from the Wii U.
That's your common sense kicking in.

This controller looks perfect for the big Project Giant Robo Launch reveal that my common sense also tells me definitely shouldn't happen.

Is quite easy to notice how #teamfake and #teamhate (or #teamnogimmicks) have a huge overlapping. Fully understandable.

I should stop being in denial about my tiredness and really go to sleep now.
There's a lot of overlap between #TeamReal and #TeamHate too. #TeamHate isn't really a team, it's just a bunch of people who aren't on #TeamNintendoForever.
 
The only reason I don't believe this is because no physical buttons on a console controller is just plain stupid. You can't get the same kind of tactile feedback with with digital buttons, not to mention you'd have to constantly hover your fingers over the screen instead of letting them rest on the button when you're not pressing it.
 
Ok we know the leak came from Sweden. Avalanche studios is in Sweden, they are collaborating with square enix on FF XV. We know square has dev kits.

FF XV for NX possibility?

Or the new dragon quest thats using unreal engine 4?
 
The only reason I don't believe this is because no physical buttons on a console controller is just plain stupid. You can't get the same kind of tactile feedback with with digital buttons, not to mention you'd have to constantly hover your fingers over the screen instead of letting them rest on the button when you're not pressing it.
Haptic feedback + that iPhone semi touch thing bro
 
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