NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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You don't understand. When you zoom in on your phone, the perspective is obviously correct. Here, the perspective points to the bottom of the screen. The device displays an image that's off screen and the wrong image ratio. It's like it tried to display a JPG instead of generating an image.

Take two pictures of the same object with your phone, one with the object at the top of the screen, and the other at the centre. The images of the object will obviously not superpose, because the perspective is different. It's basic geometry.

You are vastly overstating the amount of distortion that would occur, and that would be noticeable to the naked eye when making a pan or tilt-pan of a static and flat 2d image.
 
if someone from treehouse RT this thread it has to be fake.
This is the only reason why I think it's fake. Why would someone working at Nintendo report on a thread about a leaked picture of their own product that they themselves are so tight lipped about. Not to mention a thread full of knee jerk negative reactions. Either way this thread was a great ride :P
 
For some reason seeing those two images together makes this thing look for as hell.

4) source from Nintendolife saying it's fake.

The other points are solid, though I'm not making out #5, and for #3, well both Trev's goods and the European Direct have leaked early, as well as TMS#FE's English title and some info. That's all recent and we can assume, under NDA.

But for #4, ignore that guy, his claims are banned on GAF for being incredibly unreliable. He also had a hissyfit when he was called out a while ago.
 
I'm going to put myself on #TeamFake

Too many questions about this and the pictures released thus far.

The Swedish/Finnish keyboard would be a dead giveaway that anyone leaking it and trying to stay hidden would want to not have. It's a clear oversight, and if it were real, you just narrowed down the possibilities of where and who you are. No one wants to be found out, even if they recently left, because it'd mean bad things in the future for you.

Then you have the NOA Treehouse guy's tweet. Like...what the hell was that about? That just seemed way too obvious and a bit obtuse for him to do that if it were true.

Lots of other stuff, too.
 
A ton of people who aren't on Gaf will be fine with non-physical buttons. I've got a bunch of friends who loaded their phones up with emulators to play Gameboy games with virtual buttons and it doesn't even phase them.

I mean, I'm all for the extra inputs but it's not a dealbreaker for the general public.

Really?. Have them play Metroid Fusion or Zero Mission and get back to me bruh, haha. I doubt that they're playing GBA games that require precision and such. Trying to play Zero Mission was a nightmare on my Iphone. I too have a bunch of friends that play Gameboy games on a phone but they stick to games like Pokemon because it's much simpler when it comes to movement.
 
You are vastly overstating the amount of distortion that would occur, and that would be noticeable to the naked eye when making a pan or tilt-pan of a static and flat 2d image.

I keep seeing you post here and I keep thinking, "I didn't know Expendable liked video games."
 
The other points are solid, though I'm not making out #5, and for #3, well both Trev's goods and the European Direct have leaked early, as well as TMS#FE's English title and some info. That's all recent and we can assume, under NDA.

But for #4, ignore that guy, his claims are banned on GAF for being incredibly unreliable. He also had a hissyfit when he was called out a while ago.

Didn't know that about #4. Thanks!
 
Was something like this so hard, Nintendo?

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I'm going to put myself on #TeamFake

Too many questions about this and the pictures released thus far.

The Swedish/Finnish keyboard would be a dead giveaway that anyone leaking it and trying to stay hidden would want to not have. It's a clear oversight, and if it were real, you just narrowed down the possibilities of where and who you are. No one wants to be found out, even if they recently left, because it'd mean bad things in the future for you..

Absolutely. How many Swedish/Finnish development partners does Nintendo have? Two? One? None? The controller even says "UNIT 2" on it. Then there are the coffee stains.

They'd have the person in less than a day.
 
I have doubts it's real. Why not show the device from other angles? Why not show it while it's turned on? The Treehouse retweet also makes me think this is fake. No one would risk their job like that.

I don't want to believe. #TeamFake
 
You are vastly overstating the amount of distortion that would occur, and that would be noticeable to the naked eye when making a pan of a static and flat 2d image.
This is completely false. It only shows the top 50% of the image, that's a gigantic shift in perspective. I photoshopped tons of images in my life, including patching images with different shots from a same movie with very small camera shifts, and I can guarantee you that the smallest shift totally changes the perspective, you shouldn't be able to superpose them perfectly like you can here. The image on the device is NOT just zoomed in (which would be very weird already), it just doesn't make sense at all coming from a device that itself generates images.
 
This thread was much better when people were trying to figure out which studio "leaked" this based off of a Swedish keyboard and a reflection of a tree.
 
Nintendo's takeaway from the Wii U can't be, "Oh, people really like screens in their controllers". They can't be doing another ridiculous controller that drives up the price and ensures it's impossible to port games from the other two consoles. Not again.

Come on, Nintendo.
 
Nintendo's takeaway from the Wii U can't be, "Oh, people really like screens in their controllers". They can't be doing another ridiculous controller that drives up the price and ensures it's impossible to port games from the other two consoles. Not again.

Come on, Nintendo.

Its not a screen in a controller, its a controller in a screen, totally different thing
 
So this is it... well, I know the first party games will be there and I really want to support Nintendo because they represent the best parts of my childhood, so I will take the plunge on launch seeing as how I skipped out on the Wii U.
 
Was something like this so hard, Nintendo?

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The problem with these mockups is assuming the purpose of the touch screen would be for gameplay. If it turns out anything like the design, the gameplay will most likely be on the TV, and the touch screen will be for inputs.
 
It doesn't make sense at all for the game/application to show only the cropped top of an interactive 3D world, though. How would the game camera work? It's like displaying only the top half of a film. If this was indeed a real application running, the shot in the demo would be centred.

Here, I made a photoshop to illustrate:

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I don't know where the device come from, but the image on it makes no sense.


Obviously it is, to go with the perspective of the device, but it makes no sense whatsoever for the device to show the cropped top of the picture. The picture couldn't superpose if the image was generated for the device, because the 3D angle would be totally different. The perspective is completely wrong for an interactive image.

Yeah you have me convinced. #TeamFake I was actually wondering about that in the first tread but I don't know enough about this to make an argument confidently.
 
The "use" should be fairly obvious. Senior figures at Nintendo (notably Iwata) have commented on numerous occasions that they think games controllers are intimidating for non-gamers, and that they have too many buttons, sticks and input devices. So, they want a controller that has as few buttons as possible to be more approachable to people who haven't played games consoles before. On the other hand, they also want a full suite of buttons to accommodate whatever third party games they may get (however few).

This design accommodates both seemingly contradictory requirements. When a non-gamer picks up the controller, they only see a big screen with two control sticks, no more intimidating than their phone or tablet. When they start the game, only the buttons that the game actually requires appear. And, instead of being labelled with arbitrary letters or symbols, they're labelled with what they actually do, which makes it a lot easier for new gamers to realise which button does what. So when you start the tutorial for Super Mario Multiverse, there aren't any buttons on screen, just the stick for you to get used to moving Mario around. Then a jump button appears, and you learn to jump. Then a fireball button, etc., etc.

At the same time, the design would accommodate an arbitrary number of buttons to accommodate the control schemes that existing gamers are used to (and potentially even add functionality like allowing players to adjust the position and size of each of the buttons).

Of course, the whole thing would depend entirely on good quality haptic feedback, and I have no idea how likely that would be. Personally I'm still of the opinion that this is fake, but if Nintendo does go this route (and given the patents they've filed, they've certainly been considering it), then it seems clear to me that they're doing it for the reason above.


This sounds good on paper, but I think in practice, it would appeal to neither casuals or core gamers.

The smart phone is the logical conclusion to Nintendo's philosophy of simplifying controls. The problem is that they aren't smart phone makers. Maybe with the Wii money they could have positioned themselves to be that way, but that would obviously be a huge under taking and very risky, and not something they wanted to do. But unfortunately by not doing so, I think they have basically lost any hope of getting the casual market they so desperately want.

I don't really see why a device like this would appeal to casuals. If Nintendo is going to simply make simplified games for them, what does this device offer them that one of the numerous smart devices they probably already own doesn't? (This is why I think they need focus on mobile hard or go back to focusing on the core gamers). I suppose it offers analogue sticks, bu I'd actually argue dual analogue is one of the most confusing part of modern control schemes to casuals. That's been my experience with the people I know who aren't gamers. A dpad is intuitive. One control stick can be too. Trying to use two sticks at once really confuses some people.

The lack of physical buttons will most likely piss off the core gamers. At best is a non-ideal solution.

So like I said before, in their attempt to appeal to both, they appeal to neither.
 
Was something like this so hard, Nintendo?

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I think this misses the whole point of why they're doing touch screen in the first place. It's most likely to match the accessibility of phone games while also allowing flexibility to developers in button placement, number of buttons, etc.

If this is really what they're going for it'll be something completely different than what we've seen on gaming consoles before.
 
Didn't someone from Nintendo say that they were looking into VR but thought that it was still in its infancy or whatever?. I could see them using this device as something you could turn into an AR headset but not a VR headset. Maybe theirs a camera on the back of the controller that would allow for this?. I could see them maybe doing a Pokemon Go type game with the NX if they end up using the controller as a possible AR device especially if it uses that Kinect like tech we saw in that patent and then you could throw pokeballs.
 
I think this misses the whole point of why they're doing touch screen in the first place. It's most likely to match the accessibility of phone games while also allowing flexibility to developers in button placement, number of buttons, etc.

If this is really what they're going for it'll be something completely different than what we've seen on gaming consoles before.

But touch screens won't work because you have to look at the screen, Even with haptic feedback. If somehow they perfected haptic feedback, what is the point? Buttons would work better and a lot cheaper. This is just too weird to be real.
 
Goddammit Nintendo.

Can you just make something NORMAL?

And ill prob still get it, especially if they have a Monster Hunter for it.

Maybe they will have a humane controller to purchase for people who don't like gaming on their iPhones all day.
 
Here's my theory how this console is going to work.

NX console will be able to play games on the tv and streamed to the controller just like the wii u.

The NX will also act as a storage hub for virtual console games and "handheld" games. The controller is portable and can store games onto it for on the go use. Dump a few games off the console and onto your "controller" and your off.

Multiple controllers registered to the console can grab games from the console for on the go use.

NX games will not be able to be played for on the go use and must be played at home on a television or streamed to the controller.
 
Absolutely. How many Swedish/Finnish development partners does Nintendo have? Two? One? None? The controller even says "UNIT 2" on it. Then there are the coffee stains.

They'd have the person in less than a day.

There are alot of things that tipped me off that this was fake, but the big one is just a random ass sticker that says confidential property.

That just screams something a guy did to make the fake seem more real
 
But touch screens won't work because you have to look at the screen, Even with haptic feedback. If somehow they perfected haptic feedback, what is the point? Buttons would work better and a lot cheaper. This is just too weird to be real.

Exactly... you'd be forced to look down all the time to see the configuration.
 
Here's my theory how this console is going to work.

NX console will be able to play games on the tv and streamed to the controller just like the wii u.

The NX will also act as a storage hub for virtual console games and "handheld" games. The controller is portable and can store games onto it for on the go use. Dump a few games off the console and onto your "controller" and your off.

Multiple controllers registered to the console can grab games from the console for on the go use.

NX games will not be able to be played for on the go use and must be played at home on a television or streamed to the controller.
No, the whole selling point is one library on both.
 
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