NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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MrGerbils said:
Follow occam's razor and this being legit is actually a lot more reasonable than this being an elaborate hoax.
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Occam's razor is that this is a fake, albeit well-crafted mold that most likely took less than a day to make by a bored member of the gaming community. It's really not elaborate.
 
I can't believe how many people still think their thumbs will cover the game area. It's clearly an ultra wide resolution. That space would normally be plastic lol.
 
Neiteio said:
I'm not sure PSP is a favorable comparison for the chances of something "taking over the world," lol

But I agree, this looks neat
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I'm not convinced Nintendo can release a console or handheld that can do better than the PSP... at least not in this upcoming gen.
 
Neiteio said:
Imagine the E3 Direct unveiling it:

SCENE: Shigeru Miyamoto walking through a parking lot, the cameraman following

MIYAMOTO: "My hobbies often influence the games I make, the experiences I create. People often ask me: 'What's your hobby at the moment?' Well —"

*Miyamoto stops at a parked car and glances both ways*

*He elbow out the passenger-side window, reaches in and wrenches off the rear view mirror*

MIYAMOTO: "These days, I like to collect rear view mirrors."

*He slides under the car and begins removing the catalytic converter*

INTERVIEWER OFF SCREEN: "What are you doing?"

MIYAMOTO: "I'm going to resell these."

INTERVIEWER: "Isn't that illegal? And aren't you a millionaire?"

MIYAMOTO: "It's not about the money. It's about the thrill of the act."

*cut to title card: "Nintendo NX — The Thrill of the Act"*
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Nice XD
 
Doctre81 said:
The gamepad is comfortable to hold...
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Well it's all subjective but I don't think the gamepad is comfortable to hold. Nor does it offer anything particularly interesting. Nor does it have an appealing design. Subjective opinions but the market has spoken on the gamepad and wiiu.

This design is just a straight rip from the patents and I think it would be a nightmare to hold as well.
 
when the wii remote was first revealed, i initially said fuck off to the thing (not literally though), considering i wouldn't be able to play zelda with just a wii remote (which is kinda true). then the nunchuk was announced and twilight princess on the wii is the best version of the game ten years on.

point is, i think a little context is all that's needed here. games need to run, and other info needs to come out in order to justify the negativity. i understand there's an initial pushback to anything that's different. i'm mostly curious about ergonomics, but i'm willing to assume nintendo didn't make something super crummy considering that, aside from a regular 3ds, they're usually all about the comfort of holding a controller.

beyond that, i'm hoping there's some good ideas and neat surprises to justify the hardware. that's what i want to see - new things.
 
MogCakes said:
Occam's razor is that this is a fake, albeit well-crafted mold that most likely took less than a day to make by a bored member of the gaming community. It's really not elaborate.
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I don't mean to keep coming back to this well

but

if it were so trivial to do why have we literally never seen it done before?

I strongly disagree that something which has never been done before can be called the simplest answer to this question
 
Doctre81 said:
We have yet to see the bottom. People said the same thing about the gamepad.
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I don't need to see the bottom.

The sides of it will be poking into your hands and there's nothing to "grip" onto that fits your hands natural shape like the xbox or ps4 controllers.

No matter how the bottom looks it isn't going to change the shape of the sides.
 
This will probably be the first Nintendo console that I won't own. Looks like they are going for the mobile demographics in Japan. I hated playing FF6 on iphone because the buttons block my view and I don't like virtual buttons. Hopefully this leak is fake.
 
SirPenguin said:
I don't mean to keep coming back to this well

but

if it were so trivial to do why have we literally never seen it done before?

I strongly disagree that something which has never been done before can be called the simplest answer to this question
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3D printing is a relatively new phenomenon and home 3D printers are expensive. Also, 3D printing in general is an expensive hobby, and has a learning curve to master with modeling, prepping to print, and getting the print right, as well as post-processing. The culprit of this could also just be a college student with too much time on their hands, universities have 3D printers available.
 
It's probably not ideal to get this "I won't buy it" mindset if you were ever remotely interested. Even if it turns out great it'll take a lot to convince someone who's already been convinced that something is awful.
Nostremitus said:
If this is the controller, I hope they don't honestly expect people to play fighting games with it.
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Pokken released a special controller just to play it. Smash supported the gamecube controllers. Nintendo will likely have a cheap alternative for local multiplayer so I don't think that should be an issue
 
MogCakes said:
Occam's razor is that this is a fake, albeit well-crafted mold that most likely took less than a day to make by a bored member of the gaming community. It's really not elaborate.
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Agree. The main #TeamReal argument seems to be that nobody would spend so much time to make a mock up.

This is on a gaming forum, where people have over 1,000 hours logged in Destiny, and this weekend I saw a poster claiming that they have played several hundred hours of Garden Warfare 2... in less than a month. People spend their time lots of things others probably think are pointless.

My prediction is that in another week or so, we will see another version of the mockup, that is tailored to address some of the criticism here. It will probably include a picture of the back of the device, with a fake Nintendo sticker, but be potato cam enough that you can't read anything but the Nintendo Logo.
 
MogCakes said:
3D printing is a relatively new phenomenon and home 3D printers are expensive. Also, 3D printing in general is an expensive hobby, and has a learning curve to master with modeling, prepping to print, and getting the print right, as well as post-processing. The culprit of this could also just be a college student with too much time on their hands, universities have 3D printers available.
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Have you yourself ever used a 3D printer? Because the things you're saying are incredibly naive.
 
AniHawk said:
when the wii remote was first revealed, i initially said fuck off to the thing (not literally though), considering i wouldn't be able to play zelda with just a wii remote (which is kinda true). then the nunchuk was announced and twilight princess on the wii is the best version of the game ten years on.

point is, i think a little context is all that's needed here. games need to run, and other info needs to come out in order to justify the negativity. i understand there's an initial pushback to anything that's different. i'm mostly curious about ergonomics, but i'm willing to assume nintendo didn't make something super crummy considering that, aside from a regular 3ds, they're usually all about the comfort of holding a controller.

beyond that, i'm hoping there's some good ideas and neat surprises to justify the hardware. that's what i want to see - new things.
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Exactly. We only have one piece to the puzzle, everything else is unknown.
 
KingV said:
Agree. The main #TeamReal argument seems to be that nobody would spend so much time to make a mock up..
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what, that's not true at all

The main TeamReal argument is that there are multiple high-resolution screenshots of a device that looks exactly like we've been expecting and they have yet to be discredited.

The closest TeamFake has gotten is "well you could 3D print it", but I mean, how on earth can you argue against that? It's like saying that yeah, technically life could be a computer simulation and we're all in the Matrix. I can't definitively prove that's wrong

but remember, here's what a 3D printed electronic device looks like

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this is from Apple, a company with a ton of money and resources, after months of development and refinement on this prototype. It still looks like a toy with a funhouse mirror for a screen

and yet some college kid could spit out the device we're looking at? in just a day or so?
 
James Scott said:
It's probably not ideal to get this "I won't buy it" mindset if you were ever remotely interested. Even if it turns out great it'll take a lot to convince someone who's already been convinced that something is awful.

Pokken released a special controller just to play it. Smash supported the gamecube controllers. Nintendo will likely have a cheap alternative for local multiplayer so I don't think that should be an issue
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Don't get me wrong, I'm going to buy it... I just hoped I wouldn't need a different controller for different game types again.
 
AniHawk said:
when the wii remote was first revealed, i initially said fuck off to the thing (not literally though), considering i wouldn't be able to play zelda with just a wii remote (which is kinda true). then the nunchuk was announced and twilight princess on the wii is the best version of the game ten years on.

point is, i think a little context is all that's needed here. games need to run, and other info needs to come out in order to justify the negativity. i understand there's an initial pushback to anything that's different. i'm mostly curious about ergonomics, but i'm willing to assume nintendo didn't make something super crummy considering that, aside from a regular 3ds, they're usually all about the comfort of holding a controller.

beyond that, i'm hoping there's some good ideas and neat surprises to justify the hardware. that's what i want to see - new things.
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I think a lot of the hate on a forum like gaf is coming from that fact that nintendo is coming off a huge failure with the wii u... and they seem to be doubling down on the "gimmicky, third party unfriendly" strategy that has killed them so bad this gen. this strategy would almost certainly not address all of the problems a bunch of people had with the wii u.
 
SirPenguin said:
and yet some college kid could spit out the device we're looking at? in just a day or so?
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Just saw these images and my thought is that if faked, it must be someone with connections. Why do you assume its just a college kid? People with connections like to pull pranks too.
 
Neiteio said:
Imagine the E3 Direct unveiling it:

SCENE: Shigeru Miyamoto walking through a parking lot, the cameraman following

MIYAMOTO: "My hobbies often influence the games I make, the experiences I create. People often ask me: 'What's your hobby at the moment?' Well —"

*Miyamoto stops at a parked car and glances both ways*

*He elbow out the passenger-side window, reaches in and wrenches off the rear view mirror*

MIYAMOTO: "These days, I like to collect rear view mirrors."

*He slides under the car and begins removing the catalytic converter*

INTERVIEWER OFF SCREEN: "What are you doing?"

MIYAMOTO: "I'm going to resell these."

INTERVIEWER: "Isn't that illegal? And aren't you a millionaire?"

MIYAMOTO: "It's not about the money. It's about the thrill of the act."

*cut to title card: "Nintendo NX — The Thrill of the Act"*
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This is why I keep coming back to this thread.
 
MrGerbils said:
No. It'd be fucking incredibly elaborate.

Source: i know wtf I'm talking about :P
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Draw a model in 3D modeling software using patent as base (~1 hour) -> prep to send to 3D printer (~5-15 minutes) -> print it off 3D printer (6-9 hours) -> 3D print finishes -> scrape off support structure, sand off hard and rough edges, make sure pieces fit together (~2-4 hours) -> spray paint pieces (~1 hour) -> take photos of finished model (~10 minutes) -> reduce image quality as needed to sufficient levels of grainy to hide ABS plastic thread marks showing through paint coating, crop image, shop a UE4 demo screenshot from the web onto the white faceplate to make it look like it's a screen (~5 minutes) ->

-> upload and post to Reddit -> reap the entertainment reward for the next few days -> discover people have caught onto you -> repeat process -> while printing, laser cut a piece of acrylic or glossy plastic from a sheet (~10 minutes) -> paint new faceplate black to hide obvious contrast of black acrylic/glossy plastic against faceplate (~30 minutes) -> take new photos -> upload and post to Reddit -> watch NeoGAF explode for massive entertainment value.

The culprit has been acting reactively :p
 
MogCakes said:
Draw a model in 3D modeling software using patent as base (~1 hour) -> prep to send to 3D printer (~5-15 minutes) -> print it off 3D printer (6-9 hours) -> 3D print finishes -> scrape off support structure, sand off hard and rough edges, make sure pieces fit together (~2-4 hours) -> spray paint pieces (~1 hour) -> take photos of finished model (~10 minutes) -> reduce image quality as needed to sufficient levels of grainy to hide ABS plastic thread marks showing through paint coating, crop image, shop a UE4 demo screenshot from the web onto the white faceplate to make it look like it's a screen (~5 minutes) ->

-> upload and post to Reddit -> reap the entertainment reward for the next few days -> discover people have caught onto you -> repeat process -> while printing, laser cut a piece of acrylic or glossy plastic from a sheet (~10 minutes) -> paint new faceplate black to hide obvious contrast of black acrylic/glossy plastic against faceplate (~30 minutes) -> take new photos -> upload and post to Reddit -> watch NeoGAF explode for massive entertainment value.

The culprit has been acting reactively :p
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Seems like a lot of work and possible legal trouble for teh lulz
 
CrAzY FiNgErS said:
I think people are misunderstanding what Nintendo might be doing here. If they are using Haptic Feedback you will absolutely feel the buttons , but not in the traditional sense. I haven't tried Apple's version of it, so I can't comment on how that feels, but the Steam Controller version of it absolutely feels great.
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The problem is that Haptic Feedback, if I understands it correctly, only give you information AFTER you did the input. This will not improve the precision of your input in anyway; it will only tells you your previous input has failed.

Physically button interface works because you have the option of laying your finger on top of the button without actually pressing it, this way you are 100% sure where the input location is without diverting your vision.

Or have I been understanding the Hpatic feedback wrong?
 
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