Eurogamer: Independently confirms source that the PS4.5 is real, referred as PS 4K

Nothing different.
No dev will fully utilize those new shinny hardware, all they get is higher resolution and frame rate.

Yes nothing different. It would though, IMO, be worse than what happened with PS360 after the 7/8 year cycle. Only this time we're talking 5 years if 2018 is the year for PS5.

God help us if we go 7/8 years again.
 
What kind a stupid question is this?

I'm against splitting up consumer bases and muddying development and optimisation priorities, as well as diminishing pre-existing consumer value proposition. If they want to release hardware that's actually notably more powerful, they should just wait a few more years and release the PS5.

What if their roadmap has the PS5 coming out in 2020?
 
I want to see the extra horsepower being spent on dynamic smoke, flame, fluids, physics-based destruction, etc..

1080p is enough for now imo. Increasing resolution only would be a colossal waste.
For people with 4k TVs a native feed would be like Christmas.
 
I'm done with consoles if this is the case. Might as well go PC route, build a sweet rig, use my Xbox Elite controller that cost an arm and a leg with it as well as try and relearn my keyboard/mouse FPS skills.

The one benefit that consoles always had over the PC was the low cost and exact hardware over a generation. People could invest $300-$400 in a console and know that 6 years from now or whatever the games coming out would still work.

With rotating hardware every few years it''s a vicious cycle that drives profits for companies but hurts the consumer. Additionally, the only reason devs like Rockstar can give GTA V on Xbox 360 or Naughty Dog with Last of Us on PS3 is because the hardware never changed and they had enough time to learn the ins and outs fully.
 
That was already a possibility on the table before this... TLoU and UC4 are releasing 35 months apart. Tack another 35 months onto that, and you're already in PS5 territory... (Yes, UC4 had some issues which slowed it down, but I don't see how we get more than a max of one more big AAA ND game on the PS4.... PS3 had four.)



I'll post this again since nobody replied a couple pages ago:



(Talking about the original, existing PS4.) Did everybody forget about this? Or is this no longer the case?
I'm pretty sure the current PS4 doesn't output 4K at all, correct me if I'm wrong though
 
Like I said in the other thread, they might as well release it as PS5 with the same OS. the CPU is far to slow (even on the regular PS4) and will have to switch into a better APU.
 
If the timeframe is as soon as some of the leakers have suggested, i.e. later this year, we're most likely looking at scenario 3: HDMI 2.0 and related accoutrements, 4K video/Blu-Ray, and not much else.
 
Makes perfect sense for some they figure might as well go all the way nd have better options. I've thought about it too but its better to wait and see how this goes

That's the thing, if you're so mad about 2 options why would you be happier with 1000's of options? isn't this what you're upset about in the 1st place? seem like a case of false rage & a hate for change.
 
I want to see the extra horsepower being spent on dynamic smoke, flame, fluids, physics-based destruction, etc..

1080p is enough for now imo. Increasing resolution only would be a colossal waste.

Let's get all released games to 1080p60 locked first, then add more pretty pixels and fluff effects :b

For people with 4k TVs a native feed would be like Christmas.

Not happening with console if you also expect it to be;
A) Smaller than desktop PC case
B) Console priced and not very high end gaming PC priced
 
The saddest thing about this whole shit is that I thought most people were over this hardware wankery and now we're back in it.
 
Article is in point. I'm on board with option 1.

Hey thuway, weren't you not so hot on the idea of a PS4.5 in other threads or am I thinking of someone else? Option 1 is a pretty serious bump/change so am wondering if you may have heard something yourself?
 
Option 3 aligns with what I speculated in the previous thread.

This is why I think it'll be nothing more than allowing 4K output for movies and some games. This was taken from the first paragraph on Eurogamers Tech Analysis of Trine 2

according to the developer, Trine 2 could even hit 4K at 30fps should Sony ever unlock the output of the PS4 to support ultra-HD resolution.

I predict that the PS4.5 will do nothing more than allow for developers to output their games at 4K if the game will allow it. The PS4.5 wouldn't be anymore powerful than the normal PS4. It would just have more output options.
 
I may be totally wrong but what I understand is that in order to play the next big games of the generation decently I'll have to buy something again ? If that's the case I hate the path consoles are taking now

That's not what this is all about. A stopgap upgrade inside a generation will not make the games unplayable on the first iteration of the console. The games will play decently all the same as developers will still target those specs as the baseline. The mid-generational refresh will only enable the games to run at slightly better perfomance and/or slightly better IQ. And with VR being on its infancy will make that technology evolution very fast in the next years, so limiting Playstation VR to hardware that could span to 6-8 years would kill any chance of PSVR explosion.
 
The saddest thing about this whole shit is that I thought most people were over this hardware wankery and now we're back in it.

Yeah, this thread is a lot different from the other upgrade threads. Now we are on the acceptance stage.
 
We can perhaps see the case for an 'elite' version of a games machine - a love-letter to the hardest of the hardcore, with enhanced performance and visuals on the same games. But it reeks of niche appeal - and some might say that the PC already does a better job of servicing this need

But not with PS exclusive titles, this is why I believe that having a beefier PS4 makes sense.
 
No, there are a lot of PC gamers nowadays.

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Seems like mostly another way to push 4k movie content from the likes of Sony Pictures. Sell 4k movies, 4k displays, and "oh hey, why buy just a 4k blu-ray player when you can have a full gaming console that does so much more?"

Remember, "It Only Does Everything."
 
Why is everyone saying this will make no difference for games and only output media at 4k? Eurogamer themselves say there is new GPU tech. They wouldn't need a new GPU to output 4k media.

I agree it won't be able to do native 4k gaming but there is a new GPU in there for a reason. Its going to have some effect on games
 
isnt this kind of like the HDMI refresh that the Xbox 360 had. Just tack on feature but youre not losing anything for having the old one gaming wise.
 
Please no. Give me 5-6 year console releases, but with more substantial advancements in tech and performance with each new system, similar to what we've already been getting.
The problem with this is it's an inherently risky proposition starting a new generation, starting from scratch.

Who knows what the scenario is, but what if at anytime, they always supported 2 "generations":

PS4 and PS4K now, PS4K and PS5 when it's released, and so on... May early PS4/XB1 games were seriously held back because of cross gen commitments, and this will help with that.
 
This don't really make any sense because PC have thousands of different configurations & your mad at a console for having 2?

I got into PC knowing there was an upgrade path. I am sitting on my 670 waiting for Pascal because I know Pascal is coming out at some time this year.

With my PS4 I thought that it was going to be the only PS4 that would be released outside of Slim models but not a different spec configuration so I bought one. Had I known that the launch PS4 would be worse specs than one being released perhaps this year I would have waited and purchased this one. Not really some perverse line of thinking. They changed the way things have worked since the inception of consoles after the product was released. I don't see why anyone is puzzled as to why some would be angry over this.
 
My prediction from the "Are you in or out for iterative consoles?" thread a couple days ago.

My prediction is the PS4.5 will just be Sony's mainstream 4K Blu-ray player with some possible hardware tweaks that allow certain indie games to be played in native 4K. Everything else will be able to be upscaled. Alternatively, they might just make it smaller/quieter. Anything else I think would be a major misstep.


And I think that's the most we can expect. Slightly better fps in games that struggle or unlocked games could be a nice side-effect, but I don't think Sony is really after a "more powerful PS4". They want a trojan horse for 4K BR and 4K TV's.

The number of people that want iterative consoles scares me.
 
Why is everyone saying this will make no difference for games and only output media at 4k? Eurogamer themselves say there is new GPU tech. They wouldn't need a new GPU to output 4k media.

I agree it won't be able to do native 4k gaming but there is a new GPU in there for a reason. Its going to have some effect on games

Could just be a bit of an upclock due to better cooling and a smaller die.
 

Exclusive games for PS are almost always a showcase for hardware.

You can bet your bottom dollar that a beefier PS4 will be the baseline to show off the hardware and I can see the older version being left behind with crummy versions in some cases.

Not inconceivable.
 
Let's get all released games to 1080p60 locked first, then add more pretty pixels and fluff effects :b



Not happening with console if you also expect it to be;
A) Smaller than desktop PC case
B) Console priced and not very high end gaming PC priced
It would obviously be priced at a premium compared to the base model which is probably due for a shrink.
 
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