"But black people are allowed to say the n-word..."

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I was sitting with a couple of friends drinking beer, when one girl asks a guy "So you're pretty dark, are you half-nigger or something".

The setting was very lax and un-pc so no one really took offense. But I said "Yeah you shouldn't really use that word".

We got into a really hot debate about it and I just got completely off it, I didn't know how to respond to so many arguments because I didn't know where to start.

Then she said "But if black people can say it, why shouldn't I be able to do it? My intentions aren't bad".

Like, what are you supposed to retort with that's a valid argument? I got so surprised I didn't know what to say.

Edit. I personally have a lot of opinions about why you shouldn't say it, but it was more expressing them in a objective way that was hard.

Edit 2. I live in Bulgaria.
 
I was sitting with a couple of friends drinking beer, when one girl asks a guy "So you're pretty dark, are you half-nigger or something".

The setting was very lax and un-pc so no one really took offense. But I said "Yeah you shouldn't really use that word".

We got into a really hot debate about it and I just got completely off it, I didn't know how to respond to so many arguments because I didn't know where to start.

Then she said "But if black people can say it, why shouldn't I be able to do it? My intentions aren't bad".

Like, what are you supposed to retort with that's a valid argument? I got so surprised I didn't know what to say.

Edit. I personally have a lot of opinions about why you shouldn't say it, but it was more expressing them in a objective way that was hard.

Yeah, sure they aren't.
 
There are ignorant and stupid people out there. Welcome to the world op. I'm not saying that to excuse her behavior however.
 
I was sitting with a couple of friends drinking beer, when one girl asks a guy "So you're pretty dark, are you half-nigger or something".

The setting was very lax and un-pc so no one really took offense. But I said "Yeah you shouldn't really use that word".

We got into a really hot debate about it and I just got completely off it, I didn't know how to respond to so many arguments because I didn't know where to start.

Then she said "But if black people can say it, why shouldn't I be able to do it? My intentions aren't bad".

Like, what are you supposed to retort with that's a valid argument? I got so surprised I didn't know what to say.

Edit. I personally have a lot of opinions about why you shouldn't say it, but it was more expressing them in a objective way that was hard.

lol what
 
I'm sure there's a smart and articulate response coming, but I would have probably just punched that person. My tolerance for ignorance gets less each day I spin around on this chunk of dirt.
 
Question: Then she said "But if black people can say it, why shouldn't I be able to do it? My intentions aren't bad".


Answer: Why do you want to say it?



And asking someone if they're half "nigger" isn't anti PC, its uncouth as fuck.

Also, nobody says nigger but a racist. Drop the ER, retard.
 
Christ I spit out my coffee

seriously ... holy shit




Fudgepuppy,

I honestly don't know how to properly state the argument that if you're black you can say it. And to be honest, it's always going to be problematic. IMO it would be better if no one said it :\
 
"My intentions aren't bad." "Are you half-nigger?"
Yeah okay. You're friend is a racist. Next time you see her, ask her if she has ever said nigger to a black person.
I also love the people who complain about not being able to say any variation of nigger free of consequence like black people can.
It is especially amusing coming from white people.
 
Sorry OP, I don't have enough energy to come up with NEW arguments and reasons on this topic. But I suggest you find new friends. Relaxed setting or not I wouldn't be friends with someone dropping words like that about any race.
 
I'm generally in favor of white people saying "nigga", but that quote is absolutely ridiculous. I would've just used another race/slur combination as an example to point out the offensiveness.
 
Edit. I personally have a lot of opinions about why you shouldn't say it, but it was more expressing them in a objective way that was hard.

Slurs are generally bad and regardless of "intent" they're loaded words that carry a history of harmful use so maybe we should just not.
 
It's pretty simple really. The word nigger was historically a way to label Black people as less than White people, less than human really. Black folks took the word and claimed it as their own and changed the meaning for their own use which they had every right to do. When a White person says it, there really is no other meaning other than, you are less than I am.
 
I'm generally in favor of white people saying "nigga", but that quote is absolutely ridiculous. I would've just used another race/slur combination as an example to point out the offensiveness.

This. If you're too stupid to even be aware enough to drop the ER for A then you shouldn't be saying shit.
 
If someone gets heated over not being able to say it, and further that other people can, I really doubt their intentions. At the very least, they sound like an asshole.
 
There are non-black, non-white people who say it without a problem.

Belly said it in a song with the Weeknd, and he's of Palestinian descent.

DJ Khaled said it in a song full of a bunch of African-Americans, also of Palestinian descent.

Fat Joe says it all the time, he's Latino, I think of Cuban or Puerto Rican descent but I'm not sure.

The common thing here is that these are all examples of rap music; of which Eminem sits atop, but he never used it. He said it ONE TIME and it was only half the word and apparently it was because Proof was pressuring him to do it.
 
In what bar can a white person just casually drop the n-word then defend the use of it and everyone's like "eh whatever"?

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In what bar can a white person just casually drop the n-word then defend the use of it and everyone's like "eh whatever"?

Any tiny mostly-white visited bar you find in suburban plazas usually.

Personal anecdote time:
At least, I heard it when I worked at one.

...the day some young black kids skipped on a tab...the, uh, language got colourful after word got out to the patrons (I think our boss played it up to get more tips too). Neither scenario at all something ideal and in general it was just a bad day at the job. Of course, none of that talk or sentiment happens when one of our friendly black regulars did come in. But I still think it's kind of a shitty thing to do.
 
I'm generally in favor of white people saying "nigga", but that quote is absolutely ridiculous. I would've just used another race/slur combination as an example to point out the offensiveness.

I feel like Hispanic people have taken some level of privilege to use the term, but then again, I haven't heard it exercised in person since high school.
 
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