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[Admiral Woofington]

Problem isn't quantity, it's quality. Stop trusting hacks and hire the best of the best.

 

[Moonlight]

People take a risk, and they get ripped to shreds for it.
All superhero movies to be Marvel formula based from now on. Yay.

I just hope this means they cancel Aquaman, and cancel Cyborg.

people take a risk when they climb something they're not supposed to and we don't laud them for brave pioneering and 'risk taking'

we call them dumbasses and putting millions of dollars and two iconic characters behind the guy who made sucker punch was one hell of a building they aren't supposed to climb

 

[Alienous]

I wonder if Disney is eyeing those DC comics film rights.

 

[Inferno313]

When you film a movie, and then hype it for two fucking years, this kind of thing happens. When you finally sleep with your high school crush when you're thirty, and it's not that great, your first reaction isn't "maybe I should have less sex".

... That's every big blockbuster nowadays.

 

[Finaika]

I hope DC doesn't die

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Zack shouldn`t be allowed to make JL Part II. I guess it`s too late for I. I thought the movie is a 7/10, but it could have been a lot better with very minor changes. I basically had the same feeling for MoS, another movie that could have been great/amazing with a few minor changes. It looks like Zack is responsible for a lot of these dumbass changes.

 

[Strangelove77]

People take a risk, and they get ripped to shreds for it.
All superhero movies to be Marvel formula based from now on. Yay.

I just hope this means they cancel Aquaman, and cancel Cyborg.

Making a bad movie is risky, so I guess you're right.

 

[Fancy Clown]

There is absolutely no way to prove it, but I feel like things would've been different if everything was the same, but it was Christian Bale instead of Ben Affleck.

I don't think so because that wouldn't have fixed literally any of the things people take issue with about Batman v. Superman, especially since most people agree that Batfleck is one of the few good parts about it

 

[Mr. Poolman]

Sell the rights back to Marvel.

Cyborg was the movie that was professed to us. It will bring balance the cinematic universes.

 

[Darth Pinche]

OMG! Just perfect.

 

[Glass Rebel]

There is absolutely no way to prove it, but I feel like things would've been different if everything was the same, but it was Christian Bale instead of Ben Affleck.

What a load of bull. Ben did a great job with what he was given.

 

[Sephzilla]

I wonder if Disney is eyeing those DC comics film rights.

Assuming you're being serious, it's literally never going to happen

 

[Sibersk Esto]

People take a risk, and they get ripped to shreds for it.
All superhero movies to be Marvel formula based from now on. Yay.

I just hope this means they cancel Aquaman, and cancel Cyborg.

Nothing to do with risk. Batman and Superman had the audience in the bag, but squandered it.

 

[Alienous]

Assuming you're being serious, it's literally never going to happen

They said that about Spider-Man and the Avengers.

 

[Dabanton]

Yeah, I mean, who knows. Ben Affleck has been cited as one of the highlights of the film, so for all I know I could be completely wrong. But there's no way to know for sure.

Have you seen BvS?

 

[Sephzilla]

They said that about Spider-Man and the Avengers.

The people who own the DC comics film rights are also the people who own DC comics. The only way Disney would get those rights is if they straight up bought Warner Bros or if Warner Bros straight up sold DC, both of which would probably get crushed by monopoly laws.

 

[The Artisan]

I don't think so because that wouldn't have fixed literally any of the things people take issue with about Batman v. Superman, especially since most people agree that Batfleck is one of the few good parts about it

Yeah I established that in a later post.

What a load of bull.

Chill out dude. It's opinion. You shouldn't get so worked up about it.

Ben did a great job with what he was given.

I established that in a later post.

Have you seen BvS?

yes

 

[GuitarAtomik]

That Cyborg movie looking less and less likely now lol. It doesn't really need to exist anyway. Make a Blue Beetle movie instead.

 

[BronsonLee]

Problem isn't quantity, it's quality. Stop trusting hacks and hire the best of the best.

Beyond their DC stuff (Snyder) and their HP stuff (Yates), I could probably put WB's directors up against any other film studio and win

 

[PhoncipleBone]

And we are done here.

 

[jett]

Several sources say Warner Bros. executives were convinced they had the goods with BvS and were shocked when negative reviews began pouring in.

I have to assume they thought they had the goods simply because it was a movie with Superman and Batman in it. Nobody in their right frame of mind looks at this picture and thinks to themselves, "awww yeaaaaa we got a crowd pleaser on our hands."

Now, with DC movies dated through 2020, the outcome has led to a flurry of rumors that the studio will make adjustments — maybe add a new producer? — rather than allow BvS director Zack Snyder to proceed with the two-part Justice League. But sources with firsthand knowledge of the situation say the studio has no such plans.

Yes, you imbeciles, triple-down on Snyder, I'm sure nothing will go wrong.

 

[Harry Stewart]

Mad Max: Fury Road probably didn't make very much profit.

It's a modern classic that may ultimately be worth as much if not more. BvS will be rebooted and mostly forgotten a decade from now. I'm reminded of Fincher's quote about Fight Club:

I happen to know that the movie's in the black, but there's receipts and there's worth. They are two different things. Because there are movies that make money and there are movies that are worth money, and sometimes the movies that are worth money make money later on. I honestly believe Fight Club is a title 20th Century Fox knows is going to make money for them in perpetuity.

 

[Famassu]

Problem clearly isn't the # of films being released.

Maybe they should still take things a bit slower like Marvel did initially, instead of vomiting out one disaster after another so (relatively) quickly in succession before they've even nailed some kind of successful formula for one of their movies.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Chill out dude. It's opinion. You shouldn't get so worked up about it.

 

[LevelNth]

Is it really all Snyder though? MoS had a few script problems and questionable decisions, and from the sounds of things it looks like BvS has the same issue (haven't seen it yet).

Marvel caught lightning in a bottle on the back of an excellent, career saving performance by RDJ, and then took a chance on making further films (hit or miss) more character focused than similar films in the past.

And of course they benefited from being the first to do the universe type films for comic book properties and people went nuts. Nowadays it's not only common but expected really.

 

[Anth0ny]

snyder's gotta go. delay justice league if you have to.

 

[Rooster12]

What they really mean is...less everything else...more Batman.

OR

They can just get rid of Snyder and Terrio.

 

[SuperBanana]

Mad Max: Fury Road probably didn't make very much profit.

Nolan's Batman movies are #6 and #10 of top domestic box office earners and each making a billion dollars worldwide.

This has bombed because of the awful word of mouth. No one likes it.

 

[PBY]

Is it really all Snyder though? MoS had a few script problems and questionable decisions, and from the sounds of things it looks like BvS has the same issue (haven't seen it yet).

Marvel caught lightning in a bottle on the back of an excellent, career saving performance by RDJ, and then took a chance on making further films (hit or miss) more character focused than similar films in the past.

And of course they benefited from being the first to do the universe type films for comic book properties and people went nuts. Nowadays it's not only common but expected really.

 

[Alienous]

The people who own the DC comics film rights are also the people who own DC comics. The only way Disney would get those rights is if they straight up bought Warner Bros or if Warner Bros straight up sold DC, both of which would probably get crushed by monopoly laws.

That's assuming they wouldn't be willing to sell DC comics, isn't it? I don't see why it would have to be an all or nothing thing. You don't have to sell the Harry Potter film rights with the DC comics film rights.

 

[Chariot]

The Justice League's greatest foe is now Zack Snyder. Even the ones like Darkseid and Braniac are reasonably scared of the man who holds the Anti-Fun Equation.

 

[Henkka]

They should've just kept the franchises separate. Nobody except hardcore DC comics fans wants to see Batman and Aquaman fight side by side.

 

[The Artisan]

 

[BronsonLee]

That's assuming they wouldn't be willing to sell DC comics, isn't it? I don't see why it would have to be an all or nothing thing. You don't have to sell the Harry Potter film rights with the DC comics film rights; it wouldn't have to be an all or nothing thing.

They basically have no reason to ever sell DC

 

[xsarien]

Give the DCTV/DCA people control of the DC movies. They've proven they actually know what they're doing when it comes to these characters.

 

[Bleepey]

Who knew, WB needs to rely on its villains to save it #InAyerWeTrust

 

[AquaWateria]

Problem isn't quantity, it's quality. Stop trusting hacks and hire the best of the best.

They did with Mad Max but that didn't make enough profit for them.

Warner Bros are one of the few studios that take big risks than other movie studios.

 

[Dabanton]

yes

Bale couldn't have sold this kind of Batman imo. Affleck was one of the highpoints of the movie.

 

[Extra Sauce]

Mad Max: Fury Road probably didn't make very much profit.

I don't know about that but it definitely succeeded in reviving a franchise that is arguably more popular now than it ever was. If they manage to make a sequel to Fury Road that is high-quality, we could be looking at a Batman Begins to TDK box office bump.

 

[Glass Rebel]

snyder's gotta go. delay justice league if you have to.

Pretty much. Snyder is a liability. Give JL to Miller.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Beyond their DC stuff (Snyder) and their HP stuff (Yates), I could probably put WB's directors up against any other film studio and win

Wachowskis haven't really done anything critically acclaimed or successful in a while in the movie business. I don't even know how their Netflix show really did either since Netflix doesn't release those numbers.

 

[jonno394]

His staunch defenders on this site have been awfully quiet as of late. Crow must be extra chewy.

His first 3 movies were very enjoyable imo, then it went down hill from there.

 

[Father_Brain]

The actual article says that they aren't considering any changes to the DC slate yet.

I can believe that WB is inept enough for that to be true.

 

[PBY]

His staunch defenders on this site have been awfully quiet as of late. Crow must be extra chewy.

I mean - I personally think Snyder is a hack, but I have to give him something - he's nothing if not consistent.

Like it or hate it, you know what you're getting.

 

[Astorgh]

Snyder must be under great presure. Imagine being the guy whose failure makes a giant studio change its focus. I mean at some grade it must be “good” to have all the focus on some franchises, but it's a major change for a studio. I just hope this change brings good results.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

They need to stop greenlighting movies no one cares about.

 

[SimleuqiR]

WB, like in the BvS line Supes says "bury the bat"....bury this DC cinematic universe. Stick to TV for another decade and relaunch it then.

 

[QuantumZebra]

If they don't give Zack Snyder the boot before Justice League, then they really deserve every failure they get. You have more than enough evidence that the audience did not like his style, and if you're doing yet another very high profile film with him, you're dumb.

this right here

 

[Alienous]

They basically have no reason to ever sell DC

Give them time. At the rate they're screwing up people might not care about DC movies. Heck, they already don't care outside of Batman and Superman.

 

[The Artisan]

Bale couldn't have sold this kind of Batman imo. Affleck was one of the highpoints of the movie.

yes, i'm well aware of the fact that affleck is cited as one of the highlights of this movie. i know i'm of the unpopular opinion but I didn't want bale replaced. that's not relevant here; i'm just wondering how differently the audience's reception and perception would've been if this were the case.