THR: Warner Bros. Mulls Releasing Fewer Films as 'Batman v. Superman' Stalls
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Maybe don't make movies that cost 250 million dollars? Snyder is a fine director despite what fanboys would want you to believe. They don't really care for anything artistic involving movies so take him away from the iconic franchises. Leave those films to the J.J. Abrams of the world. Snyder can make a great looking movie with half the budget if you sacrifice star power like Watchmen or Sucker Punch so just keep him on those if he wants. I'd be so down if he got to make something like a Justice League Dark.
Anyways, I'll be happy to get a JL from him. That's all I want from Warner Bros at this point. I want them to hang on for just a little longer, then they have my permission to change whatever they want. MoS, BvS, and JL could end up being an incredible trilogy of films.
Stay strong WB. The audience will come around. Believe!
Anyways, I'll be happy to get a JL from him. That's all I want from Warner Bros at this point. I want them to hang on for just a little longer, then they have my permission to change whatever they want. MoS, BvS, and JL could end up being an incredible trilogy of films.
Stay strong WB. The audience will come around. Believe!
And it just shows that they don't even know what got them to where they are now. They keep rewarding inconsistent directors with huge budgets, then hand out money to projects that don't even sound exciting on paper.
xaosslug
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Disney's making a live action version of their classic cartoon inspired by Rudyard Kiplings stories, and WB is doing a movie based on Rudyard Kiplings stories... which they probably hope to turn into a franchise. >.>
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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DC cinematic universe is a mess 😭😭😭
It's basically a rush job to justice league to make that 1 Billion dollars
How it should of went
Batman solo movie introduce arrow
Superman solo movie inteoduce flash
Wonder Woman solo movie
Martian Manhunter solo movie introduce hawk girl
Justice league movie
Basically what the DC animated universe was which by the way is amazing
It's basically a rush job to justice league to make that 1 Billion dollars
How it should of went
Batman solo movie introduce arrow
Superman solo movie inteoduce flash
Wonder Woman solo movie
Martian Manhunter solo movie introduce hawk girl
Justice league movie
Basically what the DC animated universe was which by the way is amazing
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
You honestly think Snyder had final cut? When there's a 30 min longer DC that was announced before the theatrical release?
When the budget passes a certain point, the execs *ALWAYS* have final say.
Inferno313
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Beg pardon?
Pai Pai Master
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Thats what they just did and look where it got them lol
SumptuousLemur
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What isn't clear here to them?
A crappy movie won't make money no matter the license involved (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, etc.).
Shitty movie makes no money - news at 11
A crappy movie won't make money no matter the license involved (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, etc.).
Shitty movie makes no money - news at 11
TheOfficeMut
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How the hell would the trilogy be incredible - MoS, BvS, and JL - when the first two movies suck, the second one more so than the first?
That's a mediocre trilogy, and that's putting it lightly no matter how good JL turns out.
And while I don't blame Snyder entirely because the script and writing is awful in BvS, he does have a lot of say in how it's filmed and composed, and as far as that is considered, I thought BvS resembled a piecemeal project. It was incoherent. Why do you keep insisting that they stick with Snyder if he hasn't been terribly great for the projects?
They could've done duo movies to start off. Drop the whole fighting and let work together on something. Knowing that they're on the same side, but clashing verbally on how to approach things, ending up with solving the problem and getting to understanding and a consensus. But no, friendship is for kids!
Graphics Horse
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Batman V Rikki Tikki Tavi
Snyder's last two movies they've given him to start their cinematic universe have been critical and financial disappointments, so why should they have any faith in him being able to finally draw the audience he has already failed to attract?
xaosslug
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take your own advice... tread lightly.
Alandrus Sun
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The irony of comments like these is that they usually come from people who think actual film artistry boils down to just pretty looking shots.
It's not even that BvS was the worst movie ever. It wasn't great and certainly had flaws but it was middle of the road at worst. The problem was that it came out of nowhere. There was no buildup to the two meeting except in the movie itself. I don't even think MoS had any mention or clues of Batman at all, and certainly TDK and TDKR had no mention of Cavill's Superman (or any Superman).
Build some tension, bring in non-comic fans. Don't add cryptic junk that only comic readers will understand (Knightmare sequences). And ffs don't introduce a bunch of new characters totally out of nowhere near the end of the movie. MCU didn't start with the Avengers, don't try to blow your load with the Justice League in the last 30 minutes of a movie.
Build some tension, bring in non-comic fans. Don't add cryptic junk that only comic readers will understand (Knightmare sequences). And ffs don't introduce a bunch of new characters totally out of nowhere near the end of the movie. MCU didn't start with the Avengers, don't try to blow your load with the Justice League in the last 30 minutes of a movie.
Yep. Im not someone who has followed the mans history, but I hated MoS, and I hates BvS. He has to go, as its clear a shitload more people agree that those movies weren't as good as they could have been.
Letting him do JL is a joke. SSquad and WWoman are going to end up great, then they are gonna slap a terrible JL movie out there and people are going to lose their fucking minds, and rightfully so.
funny
HeartlessNobody213
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Yeah we were just talking about it and now it moves. It might be a bit better but not by much.
Sibersk Esto
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Jesus Christ could you be any more condescending
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Steve.1981
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Seeing this is a big surprise for me. I'd never have guessed Snyder's average would be so low. I genuinely don't understand why people hate the guy's style so much. (To be fair, I haven't seen Sucker Punch yet).
As for BvS, I've said it already but that film was much, much better than it's trailers made it look or word of mouth made it sound. Thinking about it after a few days, really the only thing I didn't like was Doomsday.
Oh well. Guess I'll place him next to the Wachowskis on my list of film-makers I like who everyone else seems to hate.
xaosslug
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'tell me, mongoose. Do u bleed?'
Triggerhappytel
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For one thing, they need to stop giving films such a ridiculously huge budget that they need to make over $900 million at the box office.
I doubt it. It had a production budget of $150 before accounting for marketing and made back less than $400 million at the box office. However, it probably made back a decent amount of money on digital and home media release; especially after getting a collection of Oscars.
I doubt it. It had a production budget of $150 before accounting for marketing and made back less than $400 million at the box office. However, it probably made back a decent amount of money on digital and home media release; especially after getting a collection of Oscars.
TheOfficeMut
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He wasn't that condescending. Take a chill pill.
Alandrus Sun
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Eh...
Listen, I watch a good amount of movies and found BvS horrific. Even I can glean some enjoyment from super terrible movies, as bad the Transformers sequels are I still get something out of them even if it is a cheap and dirty laugh. I got nothing from BvS but pain.
Well that's not what I think, soooo...
SENPAIatLARGE
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"DC films are more deep and artsy" is my favorite meme.
No, they don't.
Learn the lessons from BvS, apply them, and keep moving forward. Chickening out isn't going to solve their problems. Especially given Suicide Squad and WW look and sound completely different to BvS already.
Interfectum
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Are BvS defenders still peddling the "movie was art" angle? Please stop.
Crimson-Death
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What the fucking hell, is that timetable accurate?
Goddamn, is the WB that stupid? Yes, yes it is.....
Alandrus Sun
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Someone needs to Gif Doomsday popping out with the words "deep and artsy" flashing down below.
this would be amazing. salvage the film universe by bringing in the DC TV actors, characters and writing team.
but it ain't gon happen :\
"Double down on Batman!" is the go to solution for all things DC.
Ben Affleck is Batman and the Rock is Black Adam. WB isn't interested in sacrificing starpower.
And it doesn't matter if you think blatant Christ motifs and dark aesthetics are artsy when it clearly does very little for most critics and is middling to audiences.
TheOfficeMut
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But you're claiming "fanboys" don't understand artistic vision from Snyder, something you think is defined by pretty looking shots. Soooo if that's what YOU think, why are you assuming that other people also think artistry is only limited to brown filter and CGI?
Triggerhappytel
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Oh god, I've just looked at your post history and I think this is all serious...!
Schweinehund
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I truly don't understand how anyone could look at what he has produced and come to that conclusion.
KonradLaw
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Nah. if you look at how badly their other movies are doing DC comics are still easily the best bet for it. Even if Potter spin-off takes off it will still be one movie every two years at most. BvS underperformed, but it's likely going to earn over 900 mln. Compare that to their other bombas.
Keeping focus on DC movies is their best bet. They might bring changes to future movies, adjusts budgets etc, but this is still by far the least risky aproach they could take.
I don't think Favreau's one is a straight remake either. It'll have the main songs for sure, but it reads like it is taking from the literary source as well. Hard to say why WB has delayed theirs, if it is to distance it from Disney after it got good reviews or if they need more time in production as Serkis suggests. I can't imagine WB paying everyone's wages for another year to improve details like facial animation on animals though. That kind of thing matters very little if the script/tone doesn't work. It sounded like they went the 'dark' route again to differentiate from Disney.
Father_Brain
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So they now have *three* DC films scheduled for 2018 and 2019? Are they insane?
I really don't think Wonder Woman has anything to worry about re: Kingsman 2. And Transformers is going to crush everything, include Spider-Man - those fucking horrible films make money in spite of themselves. And yes, they are horrible. The worst franchise known to mankind. Fucking ludicrous that people in this thread are retroactively making them out to be watchable.
schlongdog
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Let's hope, we need less superhero movies and I think 90% of DC's characters are lame as hell
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