I would say he's winning the Israel part of the debate. Which he always would because Hillary's still got some kind of J Street parasitic brain infection.
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I would say he's winning the Israel part of the debate. Which he always would because Hillary's still got some kind of J Street parasitic brain infection.
I guess that is why Bernie is winning in the polls, right?
yes. I'm listening to her foreign policy proposals. She's Super Hawkish. She's an Neocon.
Gnome Scat
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Bernie wants to put this topic to bed so bad.
WonkyPanda
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Israel is always the best way to make an American politician squirm.
It is a huge issue to shrug off.
Just a Democrat.
Yup. It's like the death penalty- they can't move on this issue any time soon.
Trump and Sanders are very close on foreign policy. Both are breaking grounds on their side for saying U.S. should take a more neutral role. Though Trump definitely more, he's among the first if not the first to do it from the Republican camp.
eBay Huckster
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And who the hell, in this thread or PoliGAF, is shrugging it off?
ugaboga232
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I was just joking around but yea support for Israel is quite mainstream for what seems like no good reason. TBH i don't think its a game changer though, definitely one of the more minor issues (in the election). Sadly the mexican/south american drug wars are more violent and much closer and probably even more our fault than the isreal vs palestine issue (and legalizing drugs would probably be the easiest solution).
Only if you don't understand who she's talking to and why she's saying what she's saying.
I'm quoting this because I would like to see afterwards whether it's actually true.
exmachina64
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Martin O'Malley is further to the right than Obama.
NullPointer
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This is the most nuance related to Israel I've ever seen from the mouths of presidential candidates running for office.
A viewer might even get the sense that Israel isn't perfect at times.
A viewer might even get the sense that Israel isn't perfect at times.
davepoobond
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the Israel question is moot, it will never be solved. all answers are the wrong ones.
It's brutal. They ignore her disgusting shit as best they can and then rail on Sanders for the most trivial of things.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yea, Republicans actually drink the koolaid.
Not having any policy plans is trivial now?
Gnome Scat
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Well one thing I really don't want to get accomplished is getting involved in another conflict in the Middle East.
loki 16
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Bernie is great in this topic.
diablos991
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Everybody here spouting move on because they are bored of watching Hillary squirm.
Hmmm, I think a lot of people in this thread don't realize what this part of the debate means in NYC.
You can't actually take the position against Israel so hard in NYC, particularly Brooklyn. The Jewish vote here is really potent. Bernie harping on Palestinians so hard might actually hurt him.
I don't know enough about the conflict to take a strong stance, but I think it's a complicated place that can't be easily solved.
You can't actually take the position against Israel so hard in NYC, particularly Brooklyn. The Jewish vote here is really potent. Bernie harping on Palestinians so hard might actually hurt him.
I don't know enough about the conflict to take a strong stance, but I think it's a complicated place that can't be easily solved.
Fucking exactly. A lot of people in this thread don't understand the election cycle.
Garrett Hawke
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Because it's pointless and nothing will get done about it. Bernie is not going to fix the Israeli-Palestinian situation either. Nobody is.
hawkshockey11
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Because she rambles far less
Quote these people and stop being passive-aggressive.
I can think of at least one Democrat who's great on this issue, but unfortunately he's not allowed to run any more.
Racism and islamophpbia is a big part of it. But every time a stream of comments about Israel pour in on this board I'm reminded how out of the mainstream progressives really are on Israel.
Father_Brain
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It really is. Proof that the discourse is gradually changing for the better, I think.
maabus1999
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This is correct. This will not help Bernie on Tuesday, no matter how others love his answer.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Hey, they're showing ads this time during the break! Yay!
I'd think the response would be more mixed, as a native New Yorker myself. I have heard a variety of opinions on this.
Yeah no. One thing I can say people on Gaf will call Hillary out on anything dont agreed with.
the war in the Middle East could be solved in under 24hrs
I'm just here for the free money I've been promised.
Gnome Scat
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I just meant that it seemed he felt Hillary was dragging it on too long.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
A lot of Sanders supporters don't understand the election process.
I would love to see stats as to the number of Sanders supporters where this is their first election.
Yep, Sanders is literally pandering to his College Kids base who unlike other gens don't understand why Israel gets a free pass most of the time.
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Just posting some tweets I see around:
eBay Huckster
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Supporting this candidate despite this stance, to me, is a big ¯_(ツ_/¯
No different than supporting that other candidate despite his gun stances, despite his repeated pro-crime-bill stances, despite his repeated support for every American foreign intervention from Somalia to Afghanistan and apparently, Libya (pursuant to UNSC Resolution 1973) not ending in the letter Q.
TheLostBigBoss
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I'm reading his AIPAC speech from 08 right now and it sounds like the same shit everyone else said with the noticeable lack of the Iran deal.
And_Gignac
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Not all jews are AIPAC spoke persons. Not they all perceive criticism of Israel as an attack against their jewishness.
davepoobond
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Bernie just said no nuclear
Yup. It's just the reality for the time being, unfortunately.
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