Democrat Debate 10 |CNN| Sometimes I just wanna punch you in your perfect teeth.

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LilZippa said:
She just said 100% yes one minute then we'll maybe the next.
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No I didn't hear that, she said "yeah if that's what we've decided to pursue, or if we do it other ways too", and kept to that.

It just seems these yes/no's is just vapid purity test shit that doesn't help at all.
 
"We haven't had one question on a women's right to make decisions about her body."

Ummmmmmm....what does she think Sanders is gonna say? They're in 100% agreement. Save that for the Presidential debate
 
Effect said:
They need to start cutting mics if Sanders is going to act like an asshole like this whenever he doesn't get an answer he wants when he wants.
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Sanders asking Hillary for specifics makes him an asshole? That's all Hillary supporters do towards Sanders...
 
I'd be OK with both of these as president, would prefer Hillary by far though. Way better than what we're seeing on the Republican side.
 
LOL, Bernie pretending he was at the forefront of bringing about gay marriage.
 
NeoCTN said:
Robo Hil must shoehorn female rights into the conversation
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<initiate pandering>
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LOL

Everything that both of them are saying up there right now is pandering. They are literally both trying to snatch as many votes as they can.

Women's rights are as important an issue as any being debated tonight.
 
DirtyManos said:
No I didn't hear that, she said "yeah if that's what we've decided to pursue, or if we do it other ways too", and kept to that.

It just seems these yes/no's is just vapid purity test shit that doesn't help at all.
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There is almost nothing to debate on a lot of these issues. This SCOTUS question is a great example. There's no daylight here.
 
Trojita said:
It's fucking Lawyer speak.
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She's a damn good lawyer then, and has already said, many many times, that she wants to keep funding social security. Why are we trying to die on a hill based on what METHOD of funding is used? Especially when she already said that if that was the best way, then she would do it.
 
Seriously Hilary? Veering off into abortion with no context? IMO this is one of Hillary's weakest debates. Absolute mess. I am less enthusiastic about her than ever...and I've attended her rallies.
 
Paskil said:
I'm sick of these one second sound bites. I'm so done with Sanders. I can't wait for Tuesday.
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I'm way past being done with Bernie. It's difficult to even count him as an ally going forward. He's in full on wreak the ship and burn everything down mode. Bernie is going to end up doing more damage to the progressive agenda then Regan ever did.

Seriously, Fuck off Bernie.
 
Leeroy3101 said:
Fair point. Why can't we do this, but many others who spend less can do it?
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Universal healthcare and single-payer are not the same thing. One is subset of the other.

The larger answer is we'd have to get into businesses in a way that most Americans don't want to touch.

There are few truly single-payer systems in the developed world. Canada has one, as does Taiwan. Most countries rely on many, many insurers. Germany, for instance, has more than 150 &#8220;sickness funds.&#8221; The Swiss and Dutch health systems look a lot like Obamacare&#8217;s health-insurance exchanges. In France, about 90 percent of citizens have supplementary health insurance. Sweden has moved from a single-payer system to one with private insurers. Yet all these countries pay vastly less for drugs, surgeries or doctor visits than Americans do.

Why? Because in every case the government sets prices for health-care services and products. Insurers in Switzerland don&#8217;t negotiate drug prizes with Pfizer. The Swiss government simply sets its drug prices and lets Pfizer decide whether to sell in Switzerland -- or not.

&#8220;The problem is that in the U.S. payers are fragmented while in other countries they are unified even if there are many insurers,&#8221; said Gerard Anderson, director of the Center for Hospital Finance and Management at Johns Hopkins University.

In the United States, insurers negotiate with hospitals and drug companies on their own -- and they pay more as a result. In fact, because of their weak negotiating position they frequently use whatever price Medicare is paying as a baseline and then, because they lack the power to strike a similar deal, add a percentage on top. Joshua Gottlieb, an economist at the University of British Columbia, found that when Medicare increases what it pays for a service by $1, private insurers increase their payments by $1.30.

That leaves the United States with the worst of both approaches: Prices aren&#8217;t set by the market, but they also aren&#8217;t set by the government. Consequently, Medicare&#8217;s negotiating power is weakened by the threat that drug companies or hospitals will opt to do business only with higher-paying private insurers. We simultaneously miss out on the efficiency of a purely private system and on the savings of a purely public one.
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Bernie... you're not a Democrat. You're an Independent. Don't try to stump.
 
General election matchups.

*rolls eyes*

Polls are the only numbers to which Bernie gives any credence.
 
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