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Battlefield 5 retail listing at World of Games (Swiss), "tactical shooter in WW1"

Lol say what?! Why do you think a huge number of people really enjoy BF? The huge "everything"... number of weapons, attachments, customization, vehicles, maps etc.

Take away that and loads will pass this by and end up with other AAA shooters. Esp with the bad taste BF 4's launch left in people's mouths. DICE needs something big... and WWI def aint it.

WW1 probably has the most weapon variety in the history of war.

Horses, Crossbows, slingshots, shotguns, gatlinguns, rifles, sniper rifles, pistols, tanks, planes
 
Gemüsepizza;201061410 said:
With a WW I setting they could probably even make a new version of Metro:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Métro



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_Paris_Métro

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And while there doesn't seem to have been any big fights in Paris during WWI, they could maybe make up something like a black ops/spy mission which explains why there was a fight at this metro station. Something like a mix of Battlefield 3 and The Order 1886. A story mission in a crowded metro station could also be nice I guess, maybe as contrast to the real other battlefields of WWI.

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pls no
 
aha and thats why mostly only 3-4 weapons are used across the board...

So true, lol.

Or variety as in, 3-4 variations of the same firearm for each one.

Variety is an illusion.

The first post is not true anymore, and hasn't been for a long, long time.

And the second is complete fabrication.

The last time a considerable amount of the player base flocked to the same 2, 3 weapons was on BF3 with the M16A3, AEK.

If there is one thing that BF4 has been good since launch and they still improved a lot with the patches is weapon balance and variety.

Say what you will about 80 guns and dozens of unlocks, it might be overwhelming for the more casual side of the player base, but for someone like me who plays each game for 800 hours plus the variety is great.
 
This gif perspective made me wonder if there's ever been a major WW2 game where you play from the perspective of the Axis? Obviously that wouldn't happen for the whole game, but most military shooters now put you in the role of various soldiers across different countries. I wouldn't expect the dev to make you sympathetic for them or anything like that. Or is just the concept of playing from the other side something that no developer would touch? I mean there have been movies that show it from the other perspective.
Nope, every German from that period should obviously be disregarded as disgusting human waste and be exterminated by the heroic player character. At least, that's what the very mature and nuanced medium of video games tells me.
 
tactical squad trench digging, or trench digging simulator.

Oh man can you imagine a tactical shooter set in the civil war or revolutionary war period?

Mount and Blade's expansion Napoleonic War is amazing on PC!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/48705

Accurate early 19th century weapons, uniforms and environments

◾Massive multiplayer battles with up to 200 players

◾Five nations with more than 330 unique units to choose from

◾A wide range of artillery pieces ranging from field cannons to mortars, capable of firing a variety of missiles such as canister, explosive shells and even rockets - all fully controllable by players

◾Finely crafted game balance ensuring player skill is the hero of the battlefield, not the gun or the sword

◾Construct barricades, dig trenches, and rig explosives with the multi-purpose Engineer class

◾Special musician units with drums, fifes, bagpipes or trumpets, able to play historically accurate tunes; all recorded and played by award winning musicians
 
The first post is not true anymore, and hasn't been for a long, long time.

And the second is complete fabrication.

The last time a considerable amount of the player base flocked to the same 2, 3 weapons was on BF3 with the M16A3, AEK.

If there is one thing that BF4 has been good since launch and they still improved a lot with the patches is weapon balance and variety.

Say what you will about 80 guns and dozens of unlocks, it might be overwhelming for the more casual side of the player base, but for someone like me who plays each game for 800 hours plus the variety is great.

Yeah last I checked I was at 550 hours and I have used most of the weapons extensively. Every month or so I'll switch weapons on my loadouts to keep things interesting.
 
Tactical shooter for WW1 doesn't make too much sense to me. Like... what tactics are there other than running into machine gun fire?

Trench warfare were in such close quarters, there had to be a good amount of tactics in order to not get killed. Also, during the Battle of Vimy Ridge in France, both sides started using underground tunnels to provide a strategic upper hand. The Germans also had a consistent volley of large gun fire bombarding the battlefield, until the Canadian Corps. overtook them. And if I'm remembering correctly, WWI was when they began to use gas and other chemicals on soldiers.

It was a super intense time for war because a lot of the technical advancements that were happening. Most of what you'd expect from a Battlefield game can be done in this time period, including fighter pilots. This war was the dawn of aircraft battles. The only thing I really can't see happening are helicopters, but who cares when you have Zeppelins with bombs!
 
I believe it's possible to make a good WW1 game, I just don't believe it would be true to the expected BF experience.

No air and sea vehicles, limited selection of land vehicles.

As others have said, WW2 is as far back in time as they should go.

?? WW1 is famous for air battles, second only to trench warfare.

naval (incl. submarines) was also a thing
 
Lol say what?! Why do you think a huge number of people really enjoy BF? The huge "everything"... number of weapons, attachments, customization, vehicles, maps etc.

Take away that and loads will pass this by and end up with other AAA shooters. Esp with the bad taste BF 4's launch left in people's mouths. DICE needs something big... and WWI def aint it.

The series played (and sold) just fine without all that customization junk with BF1942 thru BF2142. In fact the series deteriorated ever since they went overboard with it. BF4's weapon selection/customization was a huge mess. Going back to its original old war roots on the hightech Frostbite engine is exactly what this series needs to be fresh again.
 
I believe it's possible to make a good WW1 game, I just don't believe it would be true to the expected BF experience.

No air and sea vehicles, limited selection of land vehicles.

As others have said, WW2 is as far back in time as they should go.

But there was air and sea warfare in ww1.

A lot of its was yes in its infancy but it was there in spades.
 
The series played (and sold) just fine without all that customization junk with BF1942 thru BF2142. In fact the series deteriorated ever since they went overboard with it. BF4's weapon selection/customization was a huge mess. Going back to its original old war roots on the hightech Frostbite engine is exactly what this series needs to be fresh again.

Agreed.
 
if they do WW1, 2, or Vietnam then i'm not buying it and sticking with 4. i know modern military settings are boring now but world wars/vietnam even more. i want a futuristic battlefield.
 
I believe it's possible to make a good WW1 game, I just don't believe it would be true to the expected BF experience.

No air and sea vehicles, limited selection of land vehicles.

As others have said, WW2 is as far back in time as they should go.

There was this little-known guy called The Red Baron...
 
if they do WW1, 2, or Vietnam then i'm not buying it and sticking with 4. i know modern military settings are boring now but world wars/vietnam even more. i want a futuristic battlefield.
Yeah, they did that already.
Bring on the horse and cannon carriage I say!
 
Well, colour me interested.

Actually, the single-player campaign will still be pretty boring shite. They can never go back to Bad Company quality.
 
if they do WW1, 2, or Vietnam then i'm not buying it and sticking with 4. i know modern military settings are boring now but world wars/vietnam even more. i want a futuristic battlefield.

Did you play 2142? Titan mode was great stuff.

I'm excited for a WW1 Battlefield though. To be fair you wouldn't have anything that has the combined arms fun of the series until at least The Somme (1916).

There was a only like two major navel battles in the war though for people saying that. Ships usually just played a support role for the land or were part of blockades.
 
I believe it's possible to make a good WW1 game, I just don't believe it would be true to the expected BF experience.

No air and sea vehicles, limited selection of land vehicles.

As others have said, WW2 is as far back in time as they should go.

Jesus. What the hell.


Ever heard of, I dunno, the Red Baron?

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Submarines do anything for you? How about some big fu battleships?

World War 1 in Photos: The War at Sea?

limited selection of land vehicles.

I dunno, how about the invention of the f'ing tank?

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World War I is an awe inspiring period of history that defines the world we live in today. If you are unaware of this period, please go look into it.
 
Back to school. Ridiculous.

Airplanes were mostly used for reconnaissance for the majority the WW1. Have fun flying a plane doing nothing but spotting in BFWW1. Gun/propeller synchronization was only achieved close to the end of the war.

Maybe you want sea action? Well good luck coordinating with 5 other randoms to run that huge battleship or that uboat.

WW1 is not suited to what players currently expect of a BF game.

Now why don't you refute my claim and explain why the BF experience would work in WW1 instead of being a dick?

Do you actual know anything about the first World War?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_World_War_I

From your own link:

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Yep. I would love to play that BF game.

Trench warfare would not be a fun gameplay mechanic.
 
Well damn. If there's anything that will get me into the BF franchise full on this is it. I own BF4 but haven't played it much, so can anybody tell me how the frame rate was (consoles)? One thing that really bothered me with BF3 was the frame rate being so much lower than CoD. To me that makes a huge difference in the feel of the game and can ruin what is otherwise a great game.
 
Yeah, I'm out if it's WW1...and I think that setting would be great for a smaller scale game.

It would cost them a ton of sales.

but way more people are enraged about the direction CoD has taken and have been begging for WW1/2 for years now

I doubt it'd cost any sales, especially since battlefield would be able to take better advantage of the huge arsenal of vehicles at the time
 
Airplanes were mostly used for reconnaissance for the majority the WW1. Have fun flying a plane doing nothing but spotting in BFWW1. Gun/propeller synchronization was only achieved close to the end of the war.

Maybe you want sea action? Well good luck coordinating with 5 other randoms to run that huge battleship or that uboat.

WW1 is not suited to what players currently expect of a BF game.

Now why don't you refute my claim and explain why the BF experience would work in WW1 instead of being a dick?

Modern aerial combat doesn't take place over a 1km x 1km map, but they make in work in BF. No reason they couldn't make WW1 aerial combat interesting in a video game.
 
Wait. So there's gonna be a BF5 teaser sometime today? When was BF4 originally teased again? I swear it was around this time of the year it released as well

Gemüsepizza;201061410 said:
With a WW I setting they could probably even make a new version of Metro:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Métro



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_Paris_Métro

787px-Metro_station_entrance_%28%C3%A9dicule_Guimard%29_Porte_Dauphine_Paris_16e_002.jpg


Paris_-_Station_Pasteur_du_Metropolitain.jpg


And while there doesn't seem to have been any big fights in Paris during WWI, they could maybe make up something like a black ops/spy mission which explains why there was a fight at this metro station. Something like a mix of Battlefield 3 and The Order 1886. A story mission in a crowded metro station could also be nice I guess, maybe as contrast to the real other battlefields of WWI.

747px-Maximilien_Luce-La_Gare_de_l'Est_sous_la_neige-1917.jpg

Stahp. STAHP. Pls NO
 
Airplanes were mostly used for reconnaissance for the majority the WW1. Have fun flying a plane doing nothing but spotting in BFWW1. Gun/propeller synchronization was only achieved close to the end of the war.

Maybe you want sea action? Well good luck coordinating with 5 other randoms to run that huge battleship or that uboat.

WW1 is not suited to what players currently expect of a BF game.

Now why don't you refute my claim and explain why the BF experience would work in WW1 instead of being a dick?

Nice back pedalling. You specifically said there were no aircraft in WW1. And I'm sure you know more about game design than the damn creators themselves..
 
Airplanes were mostly used for reconnaissance for the majority the WW1. Have fun flying a plane doing nothing but spotting in BFWW1. Gun/propeller synchronization was only achieved close to the end of the war.

Maybe you want sea action? Well good luck coordinating with 5 other randoms to run that huge battleship or that uboat.

WW1 is not suited to what players currently expect of a BF game.

Now why don't you refute my claim and explain why the BF experience would work in WW1 instead of being a dick?

That type of air war would actually be pretty amazing. Can you imagine having pistol duels while trying to outfly at the same time? You could create a lot of classic Battlefield moments with that.
 
Now why don't you refute my claim and explain why the BF experience would work in WW1 instead of being a dick?
Didn't want to waste my time on what might as well have been a joke post. But if you're actually asking, others have done already, even before my post. Just scroll up a wee bit.
Jesus. What the hell.

Ever heard of, I dunno, the Red Baron?

360_red_baron_0404.jpg


029761.jpg




Submarines do anything for you? How about some big fu battleships?

World War 1 in Photos: The War at Sea?

I dunno, how about the invention of the f'ing tank?

German_photo_with_English_Tank.jpg


World War I is an awe inspiring period of history that defines the world we live in today. If you are unaware of this period, please go look into it.
And you're falling into the bizarre and disturbing trap most detractors in this thread have: Thinking the depiction of modern, Vietnam or WW2 warfare in a Battlefield game is realistic in any way.
 
Modern aerial combat doesn't take place over a 1km x 1km map, but they make in work in BF. No reason they couldn't make WW1 aerial combat interesting in a video game.

There are good WW1 airplane and dogfight sims, I just don't think they would fit with the BF experience.

Didn't want to waste my time on what might as well have been a joke post. But if you're actually asking, others have done already, even before my post. Just scroll up a wee bit.

And you're falling into the bizarre and disturbing trap most detractors in this thread have: Thinking the depiction of modern, Vietnam or WW2 warfare in a Battlefield game is realistic in any way.

I'm arguing about fun, not realism. I think WW1 could work for a game like Arma, but I don't believe it would work for a BF game.
 
Wait. So there's gonna be a BF5 teaser sometime today? When was BF4 originally teased again? I swear it was around this time of the year it released as well



Stahp. STAHP. Pls NO

GDC 2013 was when Battlefield 4 was first shown. It was never teased beforehand, it was a full blown reveal. Since Hardline, though, they've taken to being later and later with their reveals though.

It's only when that internal Omaha video leaked that outlined Hardline that they released a less than a minute long teaser for it a month or so before E3 2014.
 
Nice back pedalling. You specifically said there were no aircraft in WW1. And I'm sure you know more about game design than the damn creators themselves..

There were no combat aircrafts is what he likely meant. It's a valid point. BF5 practically has to flub history to make a game set in this time period with the expected amount of variety.
 
GDC 2013 was when Battlefield 4 was first shown. It was never teased beforehand, it was a full blown reveal. Since Hardline, though, they've taken to being later and later with their reveals though.

It's only when that internal Omaha video leaked that outlined Hardline that they released a less than a minute long teaser for it a month or so before E3 2014.

Ah. I was actually thinking of these teasers from Spring 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wceJSGeuoww

It makes sense that they'd just tease stuff later, and later, and much closer to the reveal though. Anything is up for fair game in EA's large leaky ship
 
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