Ever been stuck in a car with a Conspiracy theorist nutjob?

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black_13 said:
At one of my previous jobs, it was 3 of us driving around alot. One of them was exactly like this. He lived alone with his cat in a basement suit.

Its sad when these kind of people think everyone else are sheep for following societies rules yet these guys are so desperate to find meaning to their meaningless life that they believe anything some youtube guy says.

People need to realize life is just plain boring. Humans make mistakes.
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Hanlon's Razor.

Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Because God knows there are far more idiots in this world than villains.
 
another sad example of an impetuous person "seduced and corrupted by the vain urge to become the unriddler of the world"—like stretching the excitement of discovering fool's gold to airy thinness beat.
 
I work with a guy who seemed pretty normal, but then one day we got into a conversation about 9/11 and he started spewing crap about how it was all a government conspiracy. I flat out said that it was bs and it ended there. I still respect the guy, but I try to avoid any conspiracy theory talks with him.
 
What's annoying is if you stop one of these people and say, "well, there is a 'conspiracy' but it involves a whole bunch of lobbyists who alternate back and forth between jobs at large corporations and positions in the government, sharing information back and forth and making back room deals to get loopholes written into regulations..."

They drift off. They want the sci-fi aspect, they want it to be like a movie, complete with shadowy villains in some dark headquarters somewhere.

It's so hard to convince them that the truth is every bit as cynical, that their lives are controlled by bureaucrats and career politicians and stockholders who couldn't care less about their well being. But they want it to be like the Da Vinci Code, a bunch of puzzles they can solve with symbols hidden in dollar bills.
 
UltimaPooh said:
I work with a tea partier, conspiracy theorist, racist in the produce section of Wal-Mart.

Do I win?
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Nice. So he wants millionaires to pay less taxes on his and doesn't want free healthcare. Sounds like a genius.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Nice. So he wants millionaires to pay less taxes on his and doesn't want free healthcare. Sounds like a genius.
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Well if you're 40 and stuck at a Wal-Mart as a sale associate you weren't bright to begin with.

I also think he suffers from some mental illnesses.
 
Zeitgeist is garbage

eznark said:
gdt5016 do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, gdt5016, children's ice cream. You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, gdt5016. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
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Vodka, that's what they drink don't they?
Under no account would a Commie drink water, and not without good reason
 
Yup, and they always love playing stupid ass Youtube videos to support they fallacious claims during a session. I fucking hate iPhones.
 
A customer came in a few month ago and after 15 min off conversation he said something along the lines of, "There is going to be something so big this summer, biological warfare big.
 
gdt5016 said:
Oh man, he said that alot. He said the "real world" is like The Matrix, and he wishes he could go back to being "plugged in." He sees control everywhere now, he said. He said he wishes he was still a slave like me :lol .
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His ideas intrigues me, and I wish to subscribe to his newsletter. Lol, seriously though I have been friends with some people like that. One guy at my work actually thought that HP was printing secret codes in their printer manuals, he would pour over each one with a fine tooth comb. Nutcase.:D
 
Used to be a kid like this in my dorm...'anarchy is the solution' blah blah blah. But when I asked, he couldn't explain how we would have electricity or running water in an anarchist society.
 
TheEastonator said:
Used to be a kid like this in my dorm...'anarchy is the solution' blah blah blah. But when I asked, he couldn't explain how we would have electricity or running water in an anarchist society.
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I had another co-worker who thinks a barter system would actually work in today's society and we would still be able to have all the cool stuff that we have now.

So I presented him with a question "Okay, so what would I have to trade to get a Watermelon at Wal-Mart?" he didn't answer. "Okay let's say I need to trade in 2 Pears to get a Watermelon. So now what does Wal-Mart do with the Pears to get more Watermelons? Let alone pay for their electricity, or their employees."

He couldn't answer and just kept saying it could work.

UrbanRats said:
What does it say on the dollar bill?
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NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM = ALL HAIL CTHULHU
 
I was once stuck in a room with a guy who believed the Bible was the most historically accurate document in history. Upon realizing he genuinely believed this, I brought up the Olympics and the conversation stayed well away from his religious beliefs.
 
gdt5016 said:
I said that! I told him I just didn't care.

HOW CAN YOU NOT CARE ABOUT BEING A SLAVE, MAN? I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU HERE!

I swear to [whatever] that is exactly what he said. And then he kept going.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKFadyJxwg

gdt5016 said:
Oh, and Global Warming is a global scientific conspiracy to......well, he wasn't quite clear on that one.
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Read 'Report From Iron Mountain' or find a summary of it, if it's a fake (lol), then some people in high places have definitely been following its advice for the past 40 years.

SlaughterX said:
Yup, and they always love playing stupid ass Youtube videos to support they fallacious claims during a session. I fucking hate iPhones.
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You should play this one in defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmQURFbE-Y

or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs

Seriously though, most conspiracies are BS purposely put out to lead you AWAY from the truth and discredit the truth.
Tell them to dig deeper.
 
Whoever created Zeigeist needs to get shot in the face. I can't believe I watched that whole entire thing and it amazes me that people believe it to be factual.

My mom is an avid Fox News watcher so that's the kind of crazy I have to live with at the moment. :/
 
Although my mom's not one of those forceful conspiracy crazies, she has some few ideas and everything is based on realizing those things. So she's apt to believing a lot of conspiracy stuff.

For example:
- 9/11? Planned by US for the aim of world domination.
- War in Iraq? For future war with Iran, whose true purpose is for a future war with Russia.
- War Afghanistan? For future war with Russia and/or China.
- North Korea? For future war with China.
- Georgia? For future war with Russia.
- Eastern Europe ties/influence? For future war with Russia.
- Global recession? For breaking down China's and Russia's economy.
- Disease epidemics? Biological warfare testing for future wars.
...and so forth.

As a result, I try not to bring up any world/nation affairs because something like these will be brought up and drives me crazy. :\
 
Atramental said:
Whoever created Zeigeist needs to get shot in the face. I can't believe I watched that whole entire thing and it amazes me that people believe it to be factual.

My mom is an avid Fox News watcher so that's the kind of crazy I have to live with at the moment. :/
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Well fox news is right on economy. I hate their social agenda. I would imagine there is a majority of people for smaller national government/larger local government and democratic social values.
 
Monocle said:
You need to see this.
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Thanks, great vid.

This is why i don't dedicate too much time to various conspiracy theories.
I have nothing against them, the problem is, 99.9% of the time, there are no evidence whatsoever (aside form the CHUTLULU thing on the Dollar bill, 'course) to support them.
Make it sound plausible isn't enough, you need data, you need something more...

Also, another thing is what David H Wong said:
What's annoying is if you stop one of these people and say, "well, there is a 'conspiracy' but it involves a whole bunch of lobbyists who alternate back and forth between jobs at large corporations and positions in the government, sharing information back and forth and making back room deals to get loopholes written into regulations..."

They drift off. They want the sci-fi aspect, they want it to be like a movie, complete with shadowy villains in some dark headquarters somewhere.

It's so hard to convince them that the truth is every bit as cynical, that their lives are controlled by bureaucrats and career politicians and stockholders who couldn't care less about their well being. But they want it to be like the Da Vinci Code, a bunch of puzzles they can solve with symbols hidden in dollar bills.
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Let alone give me some stories about political forces and stuff, without any evidence(just various assumptions)but derail them into aliens, secret Batmanlike organizations and all sorts of bullshit? Come on.
 
A collegue of mine is one. He tried to tell me that there's PROOF Michael Jackson is still alive, that there's alien on Fanta bottles if you turn them upside down and that it proves the Illuminati are in control of the world.

Told him not to talk to me again if it wasn't work-related.
 
I love conspiracy theory stuff. I especially love it when the people who believe in them or make them up make little documentaries to put on the Google video. To me, it's like fiction with real people. A more entertaining DaVinci Code.

But it is really obnoxious when people try to force this stuff on others.
 
Well it's true. We never landed on the Sun people! Also there is not much you can do. By definition someone who believes in conspiracy theories is a sceptic, and there is no way to answer a sceptics challenge that would ever satisfy them.
 
yeah, i've got a guy like this in my MSN contacts list. goes on and on about conspiracy theories all the time. aliens, NWO, colonies on Mars, you name it.

i think he posts on GAF too... ;)
 
Jexhius said:
Well it's true. We never landed on the Sun people! Also there is not much you can do. By definition someone who believes in conspiracy theories is a sceptic, and there is no way to answer a sceptics challenge that would ever satisfy them.
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They're not, that's the problem.
 
I was in the car once with a man. A very evil man. He spoke of such infuriating things. My blood boiled and bubbled with each word. Muscles twitched at each sound from his mouth.

But I had enough! I screamed "PULL OVER," and he did. Beside a Denny's I ripped open his pants and violently started to jerk his cock, slowly leaning down my face down to his thick, 9 inch spear. To my surprise, all he did is moan as I thrust his member into my mouth.

5 minutes later he made me a man in his backseat.

I miss you, dad.
 
UrbanRats said:
They're not, that's the problem.
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Not that they are like, a philosophical sceptic because they would then have to quetionwhy they are being sceptical. Instead they just take the sceptics line of argument - they question events and scrtuanise details to look for inconsistency. There is nothing inherently wrong about that - but its when the question they ask are throughly answered by e.g. scientisits and yet they still ask the same question again and again. A.k.a a 'zombie argument'.
 
Ya! I only believe the New York Times or Yahoo's front page!


The fact that you can't just let someone know you aren't interested and you feel "trapped" does sound like you are unwilling to consider new ideas. However I for one have met people who "tell" their point of views to others as the absolute truth, you just need to learn to tell them you aren't interested.

I think before posting reactionary threads about crazy people and your perception of crazy, you should take the time to look at yourself and your own beliefs.



I know I know, but that would take away from being able to judge others based on what you know and have experienced.
 
my boss is sort of a conspiracy guy. He is into all of that shit, but is pretty self aware about it too. I think he finds parts of it more fascinating than true, but he definitely beleives some of it.
 
Scrow said:
yeah, i've got a guy like this in my MSN contacts list. goes on and on about conspiracy theories all the time. aliens, NWO, colonies on Mars, you name it.

i think he posts on GAF too... ;)
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:lol :lol :lol What a nut
 
Jexhius said:
Not that they are like, a philosophical sceptic because they would then have to quetionwhy they are being sceptical. Instead they just take the sceptics line of argument - they question events and scrtuanise details to look for inconsistency. There is nothing inherently wrong about that - but its when the question they ask are throughly answered by e.g. scientisits and yet they still ask the same question again and again. A.k.a a 'zombie argument'.
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Yes, the problem is that they are not as skeptical with their own theories/arguments.
 
Incitemaybe said:
I think before posting reactionary threads about crazy people and your perception of crazy, you should take the time to look at yourself and your own beliefs.
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Wise words
Probably the best thing to come out of this thread really
 
eznark said:
gdt5016 do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, gdt5016, children's ice cream. You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, gdt5016. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
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God willing, we will prevail in peace and freedom from fear and in true health through the purity and essence of our natural fluids. God bless you all.
 
The funny thing about truthers is I think in a lot of cases they have some stances that are probably correct but it's like one nugget that's wrapped up in off the wall shit.

Like, take 9/11, I don't think there was a missile on the plane,in fact why put a missile on a plane that's going to crash anyway, but there's a good possibility that someone in the government knew of the plot, maybe not as well, but I doubt we really got the whole truth from the 9/11 commission.

Same with the NWO, I don't for a second deny that there's powerful people and corporations around the world that influence things, but I don't buy it that they control everything.

It's possible and probably Oswald wasn't acting alone or own his own regarding Kennedy.

Just the problem is, despite the fact that I know there's smelly shit around all these things conspiracy theorists talk about, their explanations stink just as much, if not more. So, really, the only non-crazy stance to take is the "I don't know stance." Because believing government is definitely being a sheep but so is believing random people who come up with ideas, so in the best world we'd all do our own research, which wouldn't stop at finding the first person who held a theory that fits what we want to believe and move from there, but since most of our lives aren't impacted by who killed Kennedy or who exactly wants reform x passed or not we just don't give a fuck.
 
David H Wong said:
What's annoying is if you stop one of these people and say, "well, there is a 'conspiracy' but it involves a whole bunch of lobbyists who alternate back and forth between jobs at large corporations and positions in the government, sharing information back and forth and making back room deals to get loopholes written into regulations..."

They drift off. They want the sci-fi aspect, they want it to be like a movie, complete with shadowy villains in some dark headquarters somewhere.

It's so hard to convince them that the truth is every bit as cynical, that their lives are controlled by bureaucrats and career politicians and stockholders who couldn't care less about their well being. But they want it to be like the Da Vinci Code, a bunch of puzzles they can solve with symbols hidden in dollar bills.
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Thats true. Most are concerned with the fantasy element.
 
In elementary school once a week we were all given high concentrated fluoride treatments in little paper cups to swish around and spit out. Not one cavity. Not one. The dentists hate me and I'm not susceptible to "suggestion" due to infinitesimal amounts of fluoride one iota. Whatever effects the small amounts of Fluoride has upon suggestion and controlling an individual is nominal.
 
Staccat0 said:
my boss is sort of a conspiracy guy. He is into all of that shit, but is pretty self aware about it too. I think he finds parts of it more fascinating than true, but he definitely beleives some of it.
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I think I fall into this category. It's pretty obvious that politics and shit shouldn't be taken at face value and there's more going on behind the scenes that anyone will ever know, but I find the more esoteric and outlandish conspiracy theories more entertaining than anything else.

UrbanRats said:
Also, another thing is what David H Wong said:

Let alone give me some stories about political forces and stuff, without any evidence(just various assumptions)but derail them into aliens, secret Batmanlike organizations and all sorts of bullshit? Come on.
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This is what I mean.
 
CAWG isn't a scientific conspiracy, it's a bunch of very poor scientists given the stage by high rolling politicians to help them achieve their political aspirations
 
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