Not true, he only needs to win California 65-35 as long as he hits all these remaining targets.
LOL which he won't. By a huge margin, christ.
Closed New Jersey by 13 points? Closed Kentucky by 35 points?
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LOL which he won't. By a huge margin, christ.
Closed New Jersey by 13 points? Closed Kentucky by 35 points?
Not true, he only needs to win California 65-35 as long as he hits all these remaining targets.
With the momentum following victories in Rhode Island AND Indiana, it's doable.
Grover Cleveland
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And the same people complaining about Bernie staying in now were complaining about Hilary staying in then.
This isn't people picking on your candidate of choice.
Yep, him and supporters want to change the Democratic Party.....but they actively shit on the core of the party.
LegendofLex
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Given that people kept anticipating a contested convention on the Republican side that would tear the party apart, it's really disheartening to see Bernie Sanders adopt similar language about his strategy now that Donald Trump is pretty definitely the Republican nominee.
Not at all. Everyone has their own candidate they want to win, and that's their right. Life can either be a series of downers or happy events depending on how you look at it. I just always have been eager to dream and believe things will turn out alright. Even if Bernie doesn't win the nom, there's a democratic victory to look forward to. But that doesn't mean I can't continue to hope for a win.If you're implying that I have less optimism about Hillary winning the nomination, then you're wrong. My optimism for Hillsry positively correlates with the fact that she's getting nominated, that's it. Bernie is drawing out his inevitable loss.
Yeah, if you pretend people in other states in an isolated bubble with no internet, TV, ect.
If spreading message to every state was so important then why did he ignore the south and not "spread" his message their as well?
I really hope they haven't, because it is pure ideological poison for the progressive movement.
Fuck globalization. Fuck due process. Burn up trade deals and scream in front of capital buildings until politicians capitulate to your special interest group. Fuck anyone who earns more than you. Fuck any kind of critical thinking of responsibility with regards to your own education. Free shit now thanks.
Yeah, that's a message people need to hear. If you want to bias them towards Trump in the general.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
The sad thing is, I have no idea if this is serious anymore.
Sad!
Aw, I missed it?
Not if you've ever heard a Sanders speech before.
Ashodin's been doing this for months now, he's either trolling or unreachable folks.
This is where I'm at and have been for a bit. In theory/principle I'm all for Bernie staying in it to spread his message, but he's been much less spreading his message/ideals and more attacking Hilary and the DNC which is actively pushing some of his supporters, including the vaunted first timers, completely away from the party and potentially having them stay home or vote for Trump in the General. I really respected him and what he was doing up until maybe ~6 weeks ago, but we're way past the point where he has even a remotely viable path to victory and him staying actively helps a potential Trump win which could very well destroy us for an entire generation with Supreme Court nominations etc.
To put it another way, I don't support Bernie staying in with probably a very low single digit to sub-1% chance of getting the nomination at the risk of giving Trump a double digit increase chance in winning the GE.
This is where I'm at and have been for a bit. In theory/principle I'm all for Bernie staying in it to spread his message, but he's been much less spreading his message/ideals and more attacking Hilary and the DNC which is actively pushing some of his supporters, including the vaunted first timers, completely away from the party and potentially having them stay home or vote for Trump in the General. I really respected him and what he was doing up until maybe ~6 weeks ago, but we're way past the point where he has even a remotely viable path to victory and him staying actively helps a potential Trump win which could very well destroy us for an entire generation with Supreme Court nominations etc.
To put it another way, I don't support Bernie staying in with probably a very low single digit to sub-1% chance of getting the nomination at the risk of giving Trump a double digit increase chance in winning the GE.
Not true, he only needs to win California 65-35 as long as he hits all these remaining targets.
Well, shit. This system is fucked.
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i've been begging for over 5 years.
Aw, I missed it?
No, you've already heard it 12 or 13 times I'm sure.
All you really need to do is YT any of his past stump speeches and you'll have it.
I love how me posting a map of the primary results celebrating the candidate I support's win in a primary thread is a drive by attack to you inferring I should be banned.
HILarious
Grover Cleveland
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I'm not saying YOU.
I'm just saying people in general who can't see why folks are asking Sanders to drop out.
Full Disclosure: I voted for Bernie
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Or you know, more people in this country prefer Hillary to Bernie.
Not true, he only needs to win California 65-35 as long as he hits all these remaining targets.
only?
Prodigal Son
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Yeah and you're pretending the average voter pays attention to any of this to the same degree that we do.
People clearly just campaign in states for the flair and fun of it. TV and radio ads are for entertainment.
DirtyManos
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Every single primary thread, ashodin comes in and shows his overwhelming optimism on Sanders' chances, and every single thread people jump on him trying to show otherwise. Nothing changes.
At this point either accept his outlook and leave him be, or think he's just trying to rile you up and ignore him. He's not changing his replies anytime soon.
Anyway, Bernie can stay in the race all he wants, as long as he drops the petty ass character attacks and focuses instead on policy. What does it say about your campaigns integrity if the BS you're saying is the same thing Trump and his campaign would do?
At this point either accept his outlook and leave him be, or think he's just trying to rile you up and ignore him. He's not changing his replies anytime soon.
Anyway, Bernie can stay in the race all he wants, as long as he drops the petty ass character attacks and focuses instead on policy. What does it say about your campaigns integrity if the BS you're saying is the same thing Trump and his campaign would do?
Murder. She Wrote
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Deep down inside I wish Biden got in the race and won, just because a Biden v Trump debate would have been pure art.
Big Baybee
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But Misdemeanor Mike and Cornell West tho
Velcro Fly
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it is more a body of work than any one individual post
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
No, the system is proportional, they don't have winner take all states like the Republican Side, if they did Hillary would be leading by a far larger margin.
No, that's why you can't hope to win without the support of the bedrock foundation of the Democratic Party, African-Americans.
And that's why this was over after South Carolina.
BlitzEngineer
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Look at r/politics, r/s4p, any pro-bernie news or editorial blog, TYT...the list goes on
These are the places where Sander's support is it's most fervent. Anytime you hear about these places, or go to them, what do you see? Reddit is constantly plastered with anti-Hillary bullshit, scrutinizing her use of finances, raising suspicion of voter fraud, of voter suppression. TYT does nothing but sit around shitting on Hillary for hours on end.
In mainstream media, when they talk about the democratic primary, for weeks now, every story that gets traction has a negative slant. Bernie's supporters allege this, Bernie's campaign claims that.
NOBODY is talking about this sacred message of yours. Whether you hold the man responsible or not, his campaign has turned negative. He is not a message candidate anymore. His supporters will continue to attack Hillary regardless of what he says, and it will only weaken her.
This theoretical woman you talked about who is so uninformed because her primary hasn't happened yet; what do you think she will see once she starts paying attention?
She'll see a stubborn old man shouting about the same crap he has been for MONTHS now, and behind him his uncompromising zealots who do nothing but try and tear down the only candidate who has a chance at actually doing some good in this country.
There's no such thing as momentum, or else Hillary would have taken Indiana after winning 4 states out of 5 last week and New York before that.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Clinton is the most intelligent, experienced candidate running and her values are consistent with the majority of Americans, not to mention that Obama is a popular President and she is perceived to be a continuation of that direction. It does surprise me how easily this is either ignored or disregarded when attempting to dismiss her for some reason or another. The majority of the country wants to vote for those qualities, regardless of anything else.
oh you want to talk about a body of work ok lets go. lets be self aware here guys.
eBay Huckster
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can someone please report that body of work to moderators so we'll have this resolved one way or the other?
fwiw i find your posts kinda endearing and i'm pretty glad you don't feel discouraged
Biden vs Ryan is still one of the most hilarious debates I've ever seen.
gutter_trash
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the rest of the month May is going to be so dull.
Hillary should send Bill on vacation to Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands
Hillary should send Bill on vacation to Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands
Biden is one of my favorites. Sucks he didn't run.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Velcro Fly
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the smug look on Biden's face during the VP debate with Palin I will never forget
It's a bad thing when you are trying to win over a broad coalition and a large percentage of said coalition doesn't care for it
People campaign to win.
Again, why ignore the south then? Spreading the message is so important, but people are to isolated to understand the message without tv and radio ads. Lets ignore the south, they don't need to hear the message.
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To all the the folks arguing how the Democratic nomination is not over. It is over.
The super delegates are going to harden and coalesce around Hillary more now. The time for primaries will be over. There will be no "flipping" of super delegates. There will be no catching up in pledged delegates. There is nothing Bernie can do save start going 100% positive as a Democratic party spokesman, and not a contender for President.
Ted Cruz tonight made it impossible for Bernie to keep going seriously among the actual Democratic party. The question is what agreement they come up with Bernie to be part of the Democratic party. Maybe a better chairmanship position in the Senate if they win it back, which gives him incentive to get the youth out to vote where it matters.
The super delegates are going to harden and coalesce around Hillary more now. The time for primaries will be over. There will be no "flipping" of super delegates. There will be no catching up in pledged delegates. There is nothing Bernie can do save start going 100% positive as a Democratic party spokesman, and not a contender for President.
Ted Cruz tonight made it impossible for Bernie to keep going seriously among the actual Democratic party. The question is what agreement they come up with Bernie to be part of the Democratic party. Maybe a better chairmanship position in the Senate if they win it back, which gives him incentive to get the youth out to vote where it matters.
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