May U.S. Primaries |OT| Glory to America
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excelsiorlef
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Or just save your money and vote Trump.
I mean that's what supporting a third party Sanders run would get you.
gutter_trash
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Sanders wins +4 pledged delates,
Hillary wins +7 unpledged delates
so Hillary nets total +3 tonight
Oregon only had 2 polls this year, both showed Hillary ahead. Most data sites based their predictions off of demographics instead of these polls, and they had it a lot closer than those polls.
Do you want Trump and 30 years of a Republican SC?
Are there any other Bernie supporters left on NeoGAF these days?
Am I the last one?
There aren't a lot of GamerGaters left on NeoGAF either.
This is so lame. Was it a game when Hillary kept running in the face of assured defeat against Obama?
Hasphat'sAnts
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O yeah. People who are covered by the ACA should definitely take this election less personally.
Hillary did not torch the party.
Aaronrules380
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Hilary was far closer to Obama than Sanders is to Hilary, and she still got a lot of crap for it
And yeah, Hilary didn't attack the entire party in the same way
... Is this a serious question? Do you know the difference in the math?
Bam Bam Baklava
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How many times do we have to remind you to that Clinton got justified grief over that? She was wrong then and he's doubly wrong now.
RustyNails
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Entire CNN panel is saying Bernie's criticism of Hillary in the victory speech tonight was puzzling and surprising this late in the game, including Bernie supporter Van Jones
Sweet indeed.
What did I say to deserve this?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Most sanders supporters are not very good at math.
Otherwise they would realize that this is mathematically over after seeing the results in Oregon. If sanders can't get 70% of the vote in Oregon, no way in hell he will in California.
So yes, it's over.
Wasn't Obama's lead on Hillary much smaller than Hillary's lead over Bernie?
Why tho? The rhetoric is far past bringing about any positive change. It's actively hurting any progressive change Bernard claims to want to achieve/ He has lost, and lost hard, it's time to rally behind the actual nominee and stop the $27 charade. It doesn't speak well of anyone who continues supporting what Bernard is doing right now. The man is a complete hypocrite hell bent on burning down the party from the inside if he doesn't get his way. Not sure how anyone can rally behind that.
soundahfekz
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Are there any other Bernie supporters left on NeoGAF these days?
Am I the last one?
We're here, we just don't feel like wasting our energy on the Hilldawg hivemind here these days.
You're going to get crickets on this.
When you point-out the blunt realities out how government works, these folks have no answer.
In fact, I'd argue that I - a Hillary supporter - care more about the eventual fulfillment of Bernie's vision than the BernieOrBust crowd, as I'm not willing to sentence it to death via GOP judiciary.
(now you can enjoy the silence)
Trump would appreciate your support.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Not hivemind. Just realists who understand math.
Valdfellgar
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Nothing, but its par for the course on here these days. Don't agree with someone? You're a GamerGater. Incredibly pathetic. Whatever, I'm still with you. He'll almost certainly lose but he's still my preferred candidate and I'll support him (already voted months ago) until the primary is over.
He's brainwashed the electorate, who think that if someone yells and screams enough about inequality that it's going to magically fix itself.
Pragmatism is a dirty word, it seems.
He had no chance after Iowa, where he lost despite it being overwhelmingly demographically advantageous for him. He had even less of a chance after Nevada, showcasing that he really just can't win diverse states despite it being a caucus and him having "momentum". He had even less of one after South Carolina, demonstrating his complete lack of support from black voters. He had even less of one after Super Tuesday where he got blown out by devastating margins in similarly black states.
Then March 15th came along. Even his demographically unlikely "path to victory" went up in smoke and turned into a magical fairy land path involving winning New York. Then April 19th rolled up and surprise surprise, he didn't win New York. The math became downright incomprehensible. Then he got crushed the following week. One couldn't even call it math anymore.
Now he's failed to hit those mythical margins in one of the most demographically advantageous states you could cook up for him. It's been over, and this coffin's full of nails, but every Tuesday one wonders more and more what the people who think he'll actually win are smoking, at this point.
I appreciate your commitment to hammering this point in every poligaf thread even though it always goes ignored by the people it's aimed at.
Bam Bam Baklava
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What path of debate is even available at this point if you were going to waste your energy?
metalslimer
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Hilary got raked over the coals for the end of her campaign where she had 1/4 the gap that currently exists between Bernie and Hilary.
Yep, because I support a certain candidate this means I don't understand math.
AntraxSuicide
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Cerium's being weird right now
And that delegate lead is terrible for him to climb over. Hillary was right to be criticized for staying in at this point 8 years ago, and Bernie is insanely far behind compared to her then. He thinks that he looks like some stalwart idealist when he really looks like Rubio charging for Florida. It was sad then, and it's sad now.
excelsiorlef
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I've never seen a horse that high, you get it in Jötunheimr?
It either means you don't understand math or don't have progressive values.
The debate of who's better suited to be our president?...
titiklabingapat
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Please don't skip any meals.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If you think Sanders still has a chance of winning the nomination. It means you don't understand math and demographics.
Sanders will get at most 53% of the vote in Oregon. How the fuck will he get the needed 70% in California which is much less favorable?
Bam Bam Baklava
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We had more than a year of that debate and the voters chose.
Velcro Fly
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Come on now. There is a big difference between supporting someone and thinking they are going to win or have a chance to win. I respect people for supporting their candidate and sticking it out. But hardly anyone here is saying he's going to win the nomination.
you should look at the 2008 primary numbers. it was way way way closer than this.
I supported Bernie but this is just getting sad now. He's a meme outstaying his welcome at this point.
Seriously if you like Bernie and his policies, why would you want him to run independent?
A Republican SC would ruin any chance of any of his policy's running for years more than any other democratic president.
That debate was concluded when Sanders conceded the south, unless you think he still has a chance to win the nomination? In which case, about that math...
Who said I thought he was going to win the nomination?
Just ignore Cerium. His signal to abuse ratio is approximately 0.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That would be all well and good assuming the candidate in question did not attack the party he is running for and victim blame.
Aaronrules380
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I personally think someone who is capable of getting a damn thing done is better suited, which is certainly not Bernie from everything I've seen. He's all high minded rhetoric and populist sentiment without the slightest shred of actual substance or any idea how to actually achieve a single one of his goals (and I'm saying this with the idea that he could get any legislation past congress, which is unlikely)
titiklabingapat
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It's a cult of personality at this point. Bernie started believing that his own fart doesn't stink.
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