OOOOOH! We have of those in my country too! But we have another name for them... I kind of want one filled with cream rn T_TBest served warm! Chocolate filled Malasada I ate this morning!
For the uninitiated, a malasada is a food that the Portuguese brought over during the Hawaii plantation days and have been popular food in Hawaii ever since. The chocolate/custard/haupia filled ones is probably a Hawaii thing.
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Explore the Alola Region in Pokemon Sun and Moon Trailer
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StreetsAhead
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None of the other Sun related Pokemon have been.
So, you invented a more convoluted one?
Frozenprince
Banned
Oh good so even in a game set in Samoa/Hawaii, my people still don't get to show up in the damn game!
/s, kinda
Okay, here's my lite, quick, and dirty post with important buildings/structures. Apologies for the long post with lots of images. I can pursue another way to present the information, if people would rather like. Let me know if I need to do so to cut down on post size. Otherwise, I'm sure I missed some stuff, but I did my best to find everything.
So yeah... incoming long post.
ExtraZoom version of map
Top-left island:
First up is the area which houses the Pokemon lab and where you get your first Pokemon. The lab is the building to the top left, with the platform to its right where you receive your first Pokemon. There's a route that heads north from this area, possibly to the waterfalls as seen in the map. The three houses on the level below are normal houses, with the left-most being the home you move to at the start of the game.
Nearby, we find a cave system that takes us to a cove down the island. (Or the cove takes you to the cave system. Image pulled from the JPN version of the starter video.
Heading south, we encounter several distinct buildings. This building has unique architecture, but I'm not sure what it could be.
The building next to it houses a Pokemon Center and what is more than likely a Pokemon School based on a real life school in Hawaii.
Even further south on the beach is this nice looking beach house. Significance unknown.
Heading west, we hit the first major town in the game based on Honolulu. You'll find many tall buildings here, a Pokemon Center, docks, and other buildings of seeming importance.
North of the big town, we find a set of houses on the outskirts. The purple building is bigger and might hold significance. The top right house seemingly has places to plant berries and might be where the player character obtains the Wailmer Pail.
The island stretches further north, but we're not able to see it in the new map due to perspective. Pulling from the JPN trailer again, we see that there is at least one building on this side of the island with a red roof. Possibly a Pokemon Center or something else.
Bottom-right island:
First we have the docks for the island, alongside the only Pokemon Center visible. There's some sort of tree in the center of the dock.
It should be noted that there's not a lot of civilization here on this island. It is rugged and most likely the end-game area.
To the left of the docks, we have an island that isn't surfable from the shore nearby due to the rocks blocking the path. It is within the lighter blue water, however, so it is likely we surf there from somewhere else.
To the right of the docks, we have what seems to be one of the very few structures on this island. Zooming in reveals it to be sort of a pueblo type of house. From this house, there are two paths you can take.
To the right, the path takes you past this interesting land formation, possibly a geyser/hot springs.
Much further up the path is a giant tree which you can enter, reminiscent of White Forest.
Finally, the left path takes you through this immense rivine/plateau system which eventually lets out to a very interesting monument/structure. Possibly the Elite Four or the location of the box legendaries.
Artificial center island:
Not much to see here from first glance except that the buildings seem really important. Could hold a palace, hospital, Elite Four, etc.
Top-right island:
The southern tip of this island is almost an island in of itself, with a small bridge attaching the two. Here we see the docks that we will arrive at, with an Eastern/Chinese style town sporting a few buildings and a Pokemon Center. There's a graveyard to the right of the town and a lighthouse above. Lots of foliage on this part of the island.
Also of note, might be just artistic choice, but there's a sailing ship near this island while other ships are more modern.
Heading north, we hit another large town, sporting several nondescript buildings and a Pokemon Center. The larger blue building to the left seems important and the hotel we saw in the concept art is the one to the north of town. Also a small natural area to the northeast of the town.
To the east of this town, we find another resort/hotel type area, complete with beach umbrellas and what seems like a golf course.
North of this hotel is another large town/area. The modern building holds some importance, possibly for what the equivalent to contests will be. We also see cars here, which might take you upwards to the volcano area.
The northeast side of this island houses an almost volcano. Lava, steam, caves.
West of here, we see a small town with a Pokemon Center and ranch type area. To the west of this town is a lake with a waterfall that empties into the ocean.
Further north, we see this incredibly cool looking structure with lakes/waterfalls. Seems important, but whether it's a gym or something else remains to be seen.
North of here, another building and Pokemon Center. Again, perspective makes us lose the north most side of the island, but there's probably more structures there.
Also, there's a small island to the northeast of this island, partially obscured by clouds.
Bottom-right island:
Starting at the right side of the island, we find again a major harbor city with the docks and architecture inspired by Japan. Someone posted a link earlier in the thread to possible inspiration, but I can't seem to find it. There's also a building to the north of this town at the base of the mountain.
South of here, we find a patch of desert down the mountain and as well as what seems to be a power plant.
Further south, we find another cluster of houses, with some looking like a campground.
West of here, we find another Pokemon Center, alongside a white building that could be a castle or other monument. There is also what seems to be a lift to take you up the mountain to the icy part.
South of this area, we find a house with unique architecture as well as a platform in the middle of the ocean.
Atop the mountain is plenty of ice and a Pokemon Center. Doesn't seem like a town will be here, but you will probably have to go through this area to get to...
The observatory.
Back down the mountain, we find another Pokemon Center with a narrow building nearby, and a forest which contains a structure on a lake. South are some islands with what seems to be a slab on one island.
Finally, the northern tip of this island houses a walled off city.
The upcoming Pokemon movie also takes place in a walled off city.
Great stuff, MajorMane! The tree is pretty interesting looking, you can't see it in your picture but there's sunrays aimed at it.
We've got something similar here but still, that looks delicious. I wonder if they're easy to make >>
Best served warm! Chocolate filled Malasada I ate this morning!
For the uninitiated, a malasada is a food that the Portuguese brought over during the Hawaii plantation days and have been popular food in Hawaii ever since. The chocolate/custard/haupia filled ones is probably a Hawaii thing.
We've got something similar here but still, that looks delicious. I wonder if they're easy to make >>
StreetsAhead
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species name is literally the Sun Pokemon
Ok, so you got one. Sorry, there's still at least 2 more that aren't.
SoulUnison
Banned
Sorry for thinking out loud?
I thought half the fun of these threads was theories and speculation.
Frozenprince
Banned
But there is no theory or speculation.
It's set in Hawaii (was hoping Samoa but ey can't win em all). It's a pun. It's nothing deeper than that.
I finally get a game (kinda) set in my homeland don't take this shit away from me.
SoulUnison
Banned
Well my theory and/or speculation would be that the story will involve an aurora in some way, obviously.
Like how in Ruby/Sapphire the overworld changes to Drought/Rain for a portion of the game, an aurora might be the "shit's getting serious" moment when the cover Legends appear.
Geez, nevermind. Suddenly this feels very "no fun allowed."
StreetsAhead
Member
Whoa there, I didn't say anything about whether or not you could present theories. I was just pointing out that (probably) Alola is just a pun on Aloha - giving an example of why Aurora/Alola also doesn't really work that well in Japanese as a pun - and you said yourself that you thought the obvious explanation was too 'on the nose'. So, yes, I think your theory is needlessly convoluted and maybe some other people think it's not, or it's a possible meaning behind the name and that is fine.
MacGurcules
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Of course you do. Basically any culture that has invented frying has also invented the donut.
The Silver
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StreetsAhead
Member
Ok, sure. I was wrong.
Here's my new point; fire is not the only typing a Pokemon themed around the sun can or should have - with Solrock and Espeon for examples.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
And Sunflora and Heliolisk
yanipheonu
Member
My hunch: we get an eventual secondary form to the legendaries, maybe in a Black2/White2 style sequel.
The lion catches ablaze, and the bat is under a shadow (eclipse)
The lion catches ablaze, and the bat is under a shadow (eclipse)
I don't think either of those really count.
Sunflora is a sunflower - it's not sun-based, it's just doing what sunflowers do by following the position of the sun.
Heliolisk represents solar energy I thought, so he's more like a solar panel pokemon than a sun pokemon.
But maybe my logic's just flawed.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
Helios means Sun, it evolves by a Sun Stone, it looks like the Sun when it extends its collar, it has the ability Solar Power, what more do you want geez
A connection to the sun itself rather than just solar energy, I guess?
Pedantic and all, but that's just me.
GiantBreadbug
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Okay everyone it wasn't outrageous to expect Solgaleo to be Fire so we can stop bringing up hardly-related counter examples.
Expecting THE sun Pokemon to be Fire is rational, as is being confused by the Steel typing.
I get why both are Psychic, but I was really expecting Fire for Solgaleo. Fire/Steel and Ghost/Fairy would have been cooler imo, but they're fine as is.
Yeah I agree with this.
Expecting THE sun Pokemon to be Fire is rational, as is being confused by the Steel typing.
I get why both are Psychic, but I was really expecting Fire for Solgaleo. Fire/Steel and Ghost/Fairy would have been cooler imo, but they're fine as is.
Yeah I agree with this.
Serpens007
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Guys, Solgaleo isnt the Sun Pokemon. Solgaleo is the Sun EATER Pokemon.
Like a Solar Panel. An extraterrestial solar panel.
Like a Solar Panel. An extraterrestial solar panel.
Darryl M R
Member
I wasn't a fan of Hoenn because of all the water.
Also does this region seem smaller than others?
Also does this region seem smaller than others?
SoulUnison
Banned
Why eat something you're weak to, though?
That's like someone with a peanut allergy scarfing down peanuts.
GiantBreadbug
Member
I didn't know this. Is it in its official description?
If so, that makes sense. But I still find it odd that it's THE mascot for Sun and it's not Fire. To be fair, I think the same thing about Lunaala not getting Fairy.
Maybe they have pseudo-Megas? Like the Primals. Or maybe they just have straight up Megas. I would be pleased if they became Fire/Steel and Fairy/Ghost for any potential forms they change into.
Why is the sun eater weak to the sun? It's like calling a caterpillar the crocodile eater.
Well, there's water, but there's also boats connecting all the major islands. Odds are, you'll be able to get through a lot of the region without Surf, despite it being an island chain.
As for size, I think that it's about the same, but deceiving on first glance. Once you dig in, and think about the perspective of the trailers, it's a very dense, very rich region.
Serpens007
Member
In the official info, it says that people see him as the devour of the sun. Maybe that isnt literal, but maybe he just blocks the sun. He makes eclipses and stuff, and not actually "eats" the sun.
Rather he blocks the sun light, absorbing it, then using it as an attack.
I still think it would be better as part Fire, but we only know so much about his backstory.
Silver to gold is what the green lion eating the sun represents. The green lion is weak to the sun and what drips down from its mouth is gold.
Solgaleo being a steel type can also be referencing something like that.
Also could be the solar panel thing too. Could even be all of the above which isn't unheard of for some legendaries.
Solgaleo being a steel type can also be referencing something like that.
Also could be the solar panel thing too. Could even be all of the above which isn't unheard of for some legendaries.
OmegaSmash
Member
Eh, I feel that once pokemon went 3D, it lost some of its scale. The gen 5 games felt bigger than XY and ORAS.
Mediking
Member
Day...one!!!!!! This looks awesome!
Are the categories for the cover legends different for you guys right now? On the official site.
Very interesting, I think you're right on the money with that Solgaleo inspiration.
I'm guessing there aren't any alchemic ghost bats that beckon the moon though?
Very interesting, I think you're right on the money with that Solgaleo inspiration.
I'm guessing there aren't any alchemic ghost bats that beckon the moon though?
Best served warm! Chocolate filled Malasada I ate this morning!
For the uninitiated, a malasada is a food that the Portuguese brought over during the Hawaii plantation days and have been popular food in Hawaii ever since. The chocolate/custard/haupia filled ones is probably a Hawaii thing.
Man, this looks better than the stuff we have here in Portugal, they never fill them with anything!
Darryl M R
Member
Thanks for your response and observation of the region! Now I'm more looking forward to this.
Actually, according to the website, its official category is the Sunne Pokémon (Lunala is the Moone Pokémon).
SoulUnison
Banned
..Wut? That's even more awkward than "formes."
Are they still pronounced "sun" and "moon?"
Because looking at that makes me think "Sunny" and "Moony."
...Like... ... ...Like "doge."
Serpens007
Member
This explanation is better. Great findings guys !
Sunne and Moone are obsolete spellings of Sun and Moon. I assume they are pronounced the same way.
Serpens007
Member
MacGurcules
Member
Well, Vulcarona is already the Sun Pokemon. And we all know you can't have two Pokemon have the same category. So if we have to settle for "Sunne," we might as well take "Moone," too.
Are the categories for the cover legends different for you guys right now? On the official site.
Very interesting, I think you're right on the money with that Solgaleo inspiration.
I'm guessing there aren't any alchemic ghost bats that beckon the moon though?
It's hard to find much but bats have had plenty of myths and folklore associated with ghosts, and other evil things. Just the same for lions always being associated with pure hearts and good things.
I'm trying to find stuff on alchemy though and other things relating to the moon other than the most simple of "bats are often nocturnal" cause that's boring.
EDIT: Sunne is fine. It's an old english version of sun.
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