EVA said on Twitter that the Classified and FTW won't be offered on Step Up, only the base ATX3 and SC.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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EVA said on Twitter that the Classified and FTW won't be offered on Step Up, only the base ATX3 and SC.
cripterion
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These 4K and DX12 results are really not what I was expecting.
1440P isn't too hot either
Not anymore.
Nvidia reached/surpassed parity some time ago when 980Ti beat Fury X at Battlefront.
cripterion
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Yes. There are more tests here http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/asus_gtx_1080_strix_review/1
Overall the Asus one looks to be an efficient card with good cooling but I thought their GTX 1080 would smash through everything with ease and I really cannot see how it can be pegged as a 4K card atm if it can't even push more than 60 fps on old titles.
only thing that makes me jelly is having a quiet and cool card compared to my 980Ti
Maybe the 1080ti and new titan
cripterion
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I hope it will be the chosen one yes.
I don't believe you sir!!!
Metro and Sleeping Dogs both have an SSAA option. If that's enabled, then technically those games are running at 8K internal res. I would assume it is, because at regular 1440P the results should be a lot higher for those games.
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Had a standard EVGA ACX 3.0, an EVGA SC, an EVGA FTW, and a Gigabyte G1 Gaming pre-ordered from Amazon, but I got shipping confirmation for my MSI Gaming X from Newegg, so I'm going to cancel them all now.
Dreams-Visions
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4K gaming won't be a serious thing until NVidia/AMD can double the performance of the 1080. Maybe 2018?
cripterion
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That would sure explain a few things. I'm still not convinced by the 4K performances on the card and especially since I would be playing without G-sync since it's on a tv so these framerates are not cutting it.
I sure hope DX12 will bring more performance gains than this :
Although I'm aware we're not getting minimal framerates.
CraigerGamer
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But at least we know it's close. A generation or 2 top.
Unknown Soldier
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That's strange, I've been gaming in 4K almost a year now? I guess it's not very serious though!
Well DX12 was a miracle for AMD because their driver team was vastly outclassed by Nvidia's.
What we're seeing here is that Nvidia's DX11 performance is very close to the peak performance the hardware can theoretically give. So the transition to DX12 nets almost no performance gain, or even negative performance if Nvidia's driver was doing a better job than the low-level DX12 code in the game.
However AMD has shown dramatic performance improvements going from DX11 to DX12 simply because their driver just isn't anywhere near the peak performance the hardware can give, and a low-level API that gives the game devs more control removes AMD's rather inefficient driver from the equation.
michaelius
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LoL nope - DX12 won't be any miracle for gpu bound situations . Remember that Nvidia driver teams were capable of even writing replacement shaders in DX11 so giving back control over that part of code to devs means that in fact code quality might be lower than before.
max settings @ 120FPS or it's just unplayable
Dreams-Visions
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At max settings and 60+? I consider that serious, yes I do. Serious enough for enthusiasts to make it their resolution of choice. I'm pretty sure most prefer 60-144hz at whatever resolution that can support it with the highest settings they can manage. I'm pretty sure that's not 4K...but you may have a rig from the future that's ownage. :-D
Yes I'm aware you can drop settings to accommodate 4K. When you can game in 4K with most modern titles without compromises, I will feel 4K is ready for prime time. Until then it's like 21:9. I love it but I know it's niche for now.
Unknown Soldier
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Yeah, you're right. I've been gaming wrong all this time. Maybe I'll throw away my 65" 4K TV and my comfy couch, it's just unplayable!
dgrdsv
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Mirror's Edge Catalyst benchmarks. Pretty big gap between 980 Ti and 1080
More here: http://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/mirrors-edge-catalyst-benchmark/
Not really surprising considering that FB3 is one of the more general compute limited engines out there. The difference is pretty close to flops difference between the cards.
For me, as tempting as these cards are, that would make no difference. I game on my 4K tv in the lounge and my 980ti pretty much plays 60fps at 2k in most games. All this would give me is perhaps a more stable 60 but until cards can hit 60 at 4K I am happy with my 980ti.
Not even convinced the 1080ti will be a worthy upgrade.
jfoul
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I had issues with coil whine on the GTX970 (G1 Gaming, EVGA FTW, ASUS Strixx). The ASUS was by far the worst. Luckily, this time around it looks the ASUS GTX1080 Strix has high quality chokes, with very minimal coil whine. In the OC3D video review here, even at 4,000 FPS in menus he had to turn off fans to hear light coil whine. I wish more reviews did HSF breakdowns, sag tests, and coil whine detail.
Dee Dah Dave
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Any news on EK blocks for dual 8pin cards yet?
yup
https://www.ekwb.com/news/official-list-of-ek-water-blocks-for-gtx-1080-series/
Confirmed to have blocks for the FTW and Classified. I'm not sure which of the other cards has custom PCB / dual 8pin.
Dee Dah Dave
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^Awesome, thanks. FTW it is, unless something else crops up.
You'd be fine with a 1070. 1080 is more suited to higher resolutions or higher framerates so worth considering if you might upgrade to a 3440x1440 monitor, or a 144Hz monitor, or might down sample for better image quality
Andronicus
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ACX3 yes SC...where?
I need moral guidance, GPU Gaf. I preordered a G1 from Amazon UK at £559. Decent price but they have no idea when they'll get stock. I jumped on an Ebuyer G1 for £600 because I've had three weeks with no GPU so fuck it. But it really is more than I wanted to spend (can afford, but bloody hell its just a graphics card)
Ebuher has a 14 day returns policy - can I use the card and then return it if my cheaper Amazon one ships? Could I actually return the unopened Amazon one to Ebuyer (doubt they log serial numbers)?
I wouldn't normally consider these things, but the retailers are taking the piss with hiking the prices (even Amazon are at £600 on that card now)
I guess an alternative would be to sell the Amazon one for more than I paid, but less than the price they are now, which would offset the cost.
Ebuher has a 14 day returns policy - can I use the card and then return it if my cheaper Amazon one ships? Could I actually return the unopened Amazon one to Ebuyer (doubt they log serial numbers)?
I wouldn't normally consider these things, but the retailers are taking the piss with hiking the prices (even Amazon are at £600 on that card now)
I guess an alternative would be to sell the Amazon one for more than I paid, but less than the price they are now, which would offset the cost.
DSR means you can return a used item within 14 days for a full refund, not sure if that includes the postage though, so yeah you could return the used card to Ebuyer and they couldn't do anything about it.
You just need to give them notice within the 14 days that you want to return it and they have to give you an extension to return it.
You just need to give them notice within the 14 days that you want to return it and they have to give you an extension to return it.
I work for BT so I need to know this inside and out.
You are correct, knew it was their bottom 2 cards and forgot they have that cheap blower card. They initially said no Classified or FTW but then clarified no SC a few days later.
They give you 28 days to return it if you notify within 14 days. So that's 6 weeks
they do say it has to be returned unused. Not sure how much they'd check.Seeing 1070 FE apparently being £400/500 makes me think a £550 1080 is OK value
They give you 28 days to return it if you notify within 14 days. So that's 6 weeks
If it's within 14 days they can't argue the toss it can be used. They have to accept the return. We have to accept back used mobile phones.
ShogunDarius
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One week until 1080 FTW
DOT DASH DOT
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So OCUK just told me that they are not getting ANY custom 1080's till the 17th!
Not suprised as they are sitting on a wedge of cash making bank on interest.
Are you implying OCUK has any say in when they get 1080 stock and that they are indeed trying to make few pennies and piss off thousands of customers while doing that?
That must be why scan emailed me that there's no stock till then as well. Hoping to get £100 off ebay for my 780 to take the sting off a £600 purchase.
bee
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quite possibly true, but they had gigabyte g1's in yesterday and scan had evga customs in also
mercenar1e
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If anyone has this card on hand and ARMA 3s new APEX expansion can you please run a benchmark at 1080P and 4K? I'm curious as to how much better it runs compared to my 970.
No but they did set the dates to the 3rd knowing full well stock wasn't arriving.
drotahorror
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Why the :/ ? Do you usually get a specific time or something? Usually when I get stuff it'll just say 'today' for delivery and who the heck knows when it'll arrive
KurtSloane
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Is Apex out?
Why the :/ ? Do you usually get a specific time or something? Usually when I get stuff it'll just say 'today' for delivery and who the heck knows when it'll arrive
I guess it depends. I've been spoiled by a few deliveries recently where they text me an hour slot for estimated delivery and a live tracker of where they are relative to me (DPD). Other couriers like DHL/UPS are just 'today' too I guess.
Mainly worrying because its a friday and I need to be out of the house for an hour in the early afternoon. and their depot is quite a drive away
Welp. If they don't have any then NCIX for sure won't be getting any until next week at the earliest.
DX12 primarily offers a performance gain if either
a) you are CPU limited or
b) the DX11 driver fails to take full advantage of the GPU hardware.
The first of those rarely happens in GPU reviews, for good reasons (they use very high-end CPUs in order to not bottleneck the GPU the review is actually about).
The latter happens far more rarely on Nvidia HW since their DX11 driver is a pretty damn impressive piece of software.
In short, you shouldn't expect massive performance improvements out of DX12 on NV, outside of specific situations where a new feature can provide a truly tangible benefit.
That sounds amazing. For me it's just a text saying today during a 10 hour time frame lol.