I understand the feeling, but at 50 dead this is the deadliest mass shooting in US history.
Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]
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Unless something else is stated I Believe the Mayor.
Hylianhero777
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I know this shouldn't at all be the focus of this discussion, but does it bother anyone else to see all of the sad face emojis, "Holy shit wow" and other similar reactions in this thread? It just feels really disrespectful, intentionally or not. 50 people just died and you're going to use the response I'd text to my friend who had to work late? I don't think a sad face emoji is really an appropriate response to a mass murder.
ClosingADoor
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Just read that the amount of people killed is 50 now. What a terrible, terrible loss of life.
You're holding on to something written hundreds of years ago. Update the law to reflect modern times.
It shouldn't be a fundamental right. That is the whole problem. Nobody needs an assault rifle for day to day life. A handgun for home protection, I can understand. Anything above should only be used for hunting or sports and locked up at the gun range or club.
You're holding on to something written hundreds of years ago. Update the law to reflect modern times.
The Jackdog
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How's that 100% certainty working out right now
Ok so if they were then it would be okay for someone to say "I don't feel sorry for you "? Have some fucking respect and leave your political ideology at the god damn door.
entremet
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It's only initial reports. Plus wounded people perishing.
I'm 100% sure the authorities/mayor is wrong.
They like to use the term "assault rifle" because it sounds more menacing than "sporting rifle" which it actually is.
I live in Denmark in Europe and I own an AR-15.
SomedayTheFire
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This is an absolute fucking mess of a post.
Yes I know, it wasn't you. But the person you were responding to was quoting the person who did.
krackerjack
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I'm so angry. I don't even know how to feel. What makes it even worse is seeing a dj who likes to promote his own business on his business Facebook page saying condemning things about the religion of who did this.
My friend of the same religion and his wife are in tears over this disgusting act.
I want to cry
My friend of the same religion and his wife are in tears over this disgusting act.
I want to cry
It's indoctrination and brain washing. I don't even understand how your mindset can become so skewed that you decide to follow this kind of shit.
My money is on this guy being decently educated, finished high school and maybe college, with a decent paying job that should have made him content in life. Instead, he starts reading the fundamentalist shit that people are peddling on the web and goes off the deep end.
I just don't understand.
blackMamba1187
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This is sickening. What absolute insanity.
If this is the case, I need to know if this terrorist legally saved up and bought these guns and passed those checks, or if he got it illegally.
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Crazy how one person can do so much damage. Fucking disgusting.
The Jackdog
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The cop leading the investigation said AR 15 on the news right now
AR-15s are about $1500, and I know of at least 3 of them just in my cul de sac.
It's not like I wish people would die, don't be obtuse. But expecting me to feel sorry literally every day when most of your own country doesn't and only wants to bring more firearms in the picture, is hypocrisy.
You grow used to it it's as simple as that.
That's exactly what I'm saying and you're free to not believe me. If things like that were happening in my country it would also become routine.
Mammoth Jones
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Great, now this begins. Let's be careful with identifying monsters for what they are but this type of stuff is going to hurt other minority groups.
Np, I understand the point you were trying to make.
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Deleted member 1235
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this kind of logic pisses me off so much, just amend your broken constitution again, because its broken and stupid and this is the result, which is something most people understand. fucks sake.
False. France has some of the toughest gun laws for Europe. That didn't stop what 190 people from getting slaughtered? #1 the shooter was yet another muslim male. Compare the fact that muslim men are provably 0.5% of the total US population, coupled with the amount of people killed or # of attacks and you have a group grossly outnumbered.
This is an Islamic motivated terrorist hate crime attack in which mostly Gay men were killed because of hatred for them. This same guy would be able to or would have killed these people if he wanted to. Just like in every non-American country, terrorists have still been able to procure heavy weaponry and assault rifles. I agree the US gun culture and easy availability of guns is ridiculous. We've started to accept this as a commonplace occurrence for the US now. But after Sandy Hook, if nothing changed, it won't change now.
Bubble Metropolis
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A religious extremist by himself is simply just an unpleasant person to be around. A religious extremist with a gun murders 50 people in a matter of minutes.
Meant to say France, and the fact those were terrorist attacks. Terrorists, whether lone wolves or part of a terrorist cell will find a way to engage in mass murder whether guns are easily accessible or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if the gun was recently purchased.
Easy access to firearms makes these things... much easier to acomplish. Especially when some circumstance happens in the heat of the moment (doesn't seem to be the case here).
A waiting period and real background checks for all purchases in all 50 states would reduce gun deaths. Requiring safety course completion and regular updates ever few years would go even further.
PHOENIXZERO
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Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Name another type of weapon that would've had the destruction power a firearm does.
GHG
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What the fuck?
I don't often come into any threads relating to gun debates etc but is this the general standard of logic applied by those who are pro-gun?
He didn't this is an AR-15, a semi automatic sporting rifle.
An AR-15 is not an assault rifle, it's a semi automatic sporting rifle.
Sure AR-15 are cheaper, but they're also semi automatic.
If you can find an NFA M16 assault rifle for $1500 buy it right now because they're tens of thousands of dollars normally...
Guns make it far too easy for one persons desire to instantly kill other people. This is why I own a gun. I don't own a gun to protect myself from knife wielders or thieves or wild animals. I own a gun to protect myself from other crazy people who own guns. In Texas it takes less than 15 minutes to buy a gun and all the ammo I want. 15 minutes to kill people.
How is that logical in any way. It takes longer to buy a car. It takes longer to pay your taxes. It takes longer to buy a house. But a weapon of instant death? 15 minutes.
Why not put the blame on BOTH?
He was a fucking psychopath AND US gun laws are insane.
DontBeThatGuy
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Irrationally comparing US Muslims to our Gun Violence problem, our anti-gun control lobbying problem, and the most lax laws imaginable is why fuck all can actually get done here, even when the majority of the country wants something to be done. (and most aren't calling for a complete ban, but literally nothing is able to get done. It's fucking criminal)
that doesn't follow at all, unless you're saying that's nonsensical for lots of countries in the world to have freedom of religion but not freedom to bear arms.
And the appropriate response is what, exactly?
I live down the street from this very club and I was woken up late into the night by the gunfire and authorities swarming in on the place. It was a part of my neighborhood and my community.
And yet I can't muster up the emotion strength myself to have a reaction that isn't 😔
Arrogant Bastard
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Honestly though, there is a massive difference between an AR-15 and a hunting rifle, I'm not sure why people try to evade that. We all know the difference between a automatic assault rifle and a semi. With that said, it is disingenuous to just label an AR-15 a 'sporting/hunting rifle'.
How is a rational person meant to even respond to this? Look I can be ridiculous too: Could I go buy a suitcase nuke at the 7/11 if I was a US citizen because it's my right?
sturgboski
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Have they determined hate crime or terrorist attack? I tuned in late to presser.
TheLegendOfMart
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After a school shooting here in the UK they banned guns for private citizens, how many mass shootings has the UK had from 1996-2016........ one.
Gun crime hasn't been wiped out but just look at the stats in your own country, nearly 6000 deaths in just 6 months from gun crime.
screw your fundamental rights.
(apologies for the outburst and filthy language, I have removed it)
Worst thing about it all..NRA have there hands in it and they will pay lots of governors money again to respect and pray for there family's but this will never change because the NRA has such a huge influence in all of it this will boost guns sales again..
I don't think AR-15s are quite as hard to attain as you think they are.
Edit: Sorry, misunderstood.
Are you going to stop with this crusade of yours anytime soon? Denmark has rather tight gun ownership/usage laws. The United States does not. The situations are not equal.
You don't have to blindly defend gun ownership every time a thread like this pops up. There's a legitimate problem with unrestricted access to guns. This isn't about your personal hobby or about your situation in Denmark.
Welp, fuck this comment. Ugh.
Plasticine
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
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