Macho Madness
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Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016
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Joe Spangle
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Just been down to vote. Only a couple of people there with me. Its going to be an interesting evening.
I actually bet it would be higher for Remain if it wasn't for some people using this as an opportunity to advance their career.
Flintty
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Cameron will still be PM, for the time being. There isn't going to be an overnight change in how we do things. The likes of Farage will still have no power, unless he wins a general election so the remain/leave vote effectively has no bearing on that. Cameron will damage control this thing to the death.
Lol you really don't get it do you? You can't just assume that is what people are just because they have a different view to you. I have a problem with the level of immigration happening. Not racist or xenophobic. Yes we should certainly be helping those in need of refuge but not on levels dictated by Brussels. There is a happy middle ground.
You've lost me...
Crossing all my fingers for remain, gonna pop to the polling station at lunch.
I can't help but feel a win for Brexit is a win for xenophobia at this point, the leave campaign has been full of such lies and nonsense it's quite frankly sickening.
I can't help but feel a win for Brexit is a win for xenophobia at this point, the leave campaign has been full of such lies and nonsense it's quite frankly sickening.
Can you think of a country in the modern world that wasn't helped by Immigration?
If Leave wins, hus position as PM is untenable, it will be one or 2 months before he quits and Boris Johnson is currently favourite to take over. I'm less concerned about Farage and more concerned about Boris the blunderer and Michael Gove. Stuff of nightmares that is.
In terms of turn out, they were reckoning a very high turn out across the board from all sides (higher than the general election, and in some areas at the levels of the Scottish referendum) - so don't be surprised if your normally quiet polling booth is busy, no matter which side you are on.
In terms of London - it's not raining here right now (although we didn't sleep last night as it was so bad. Like, all night monsoon). However, he idea that bad weather will depress the remain vote is again unfounded. Bad weather depresses the labour vote, but it's the working class / poor part of their vote that tends to be affected by bad weather. Which in London, is the Brexit vote. The middle classes who are voting in favour of remain are affected less by the weather.
So all in all, don't listen to stories, ignore what you see at your own station, and go vote.
In terms of London - it's not raining here right now (although we didn't sleep last night as it was so bad. Like, all night monsoon). However, he idea that bad weather will depress the remain vote is again unfounded. Bad weather depresses the labour vote, but it's the working class / poor part of their vote that tends to be affected by bad weather. Which in London, is the Brexit vote. The middle classes who are voting in favour of remain are affected less by the weather.
So all in all, don't listen to stories, ignore what you see at your own station, and go vote.
TheLegendOfMart
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I was already leaning towards remain but I've done some reading and watched some videos and it has just confirmed that I am for remain.
I'm off to vote in 20 mins. Fingers crossed for Remain.
I'm off to vote in 20 mins. Fingers crossed for Remain.
Napoleonthechimp
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If ever you wanted a reason to vote remain then here you have it:
Donald Trump arrives in the UK saying he would be 'inclined to leave the EU' : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-arrives-in-the-uk-saying-he-would-be-inclined-to-le/
Donald Trump arrives in the UK saying he would be 'inclined to leave the EU' : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-arrives-in-the-uk-saying-he-would-be-inclined-to-le/
MassiveNights
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Immigration is not a problem in this country.
Refugees are not economic migrants.
Refugees should receive shelter wherever we can offer it, this isn't even dictated by the EU or Brussels.
Economic migrants from the EU bring a net benefit to our country. That is a fact.
What is your problem again?
Like I said, you either don't know the facts or you know the facts and are xenophobic. It is really simple.
ferrasvansen
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Good turnout means higher chance of remain winning, reports so far of busy polling stations all over. For those wondering about effect of turnout here is a yougov chart. Just remember polling has changed to better for remain so there is a slight decrease in vote needed since then.
https://twitter.com/mattsmithetc/status/744800322619478016
https://twitter.com/mattsmithetc/status/744800322619478016
CyclopsRock
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Well... either we are in the EU or we ain't. That's a pretty binary thing.
This shit is what pushes me towards leave.
The idea from the remain that every leaver is a racist conspiracy theorist.
QuicheFontaine
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Ah, but I have an ace in the hole: my wife voted Leave by post weeks ago.
+1 to Leave!!
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Bro broblem mate
This has been the basis of my argument with anyone who I have heard is for Brexit (which isn't many)
MassiveNights
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I mean there are valid arguments for Leave but immigration is not one of them. It's been such a strange campaign and quite sickening.
Flintty
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Again, I didn't say that immigration is bad for the country - just that we need better control of the numbers.
If Boris gets in - interesting times ahead. I think Cameron will stay though.
I know enough to draw my own non-xenophobic conclusions. You know nothing about me, my age or history/life experiences, who I have worked with and who I have worked for so please stop trying to put me in a box.
Argh. This shit just annoys me. Go vote leave. Not everyone thinks you're racist.
ferrasvansen
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Well funny you should mention that....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...oters-mi5-conspiracy-government-a7092806.html
jimbobsmells
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You filthy racist.
HandsomeCharles
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I voted at five past seven this morning as I'm off to London for unrelated shenanigans. I wonder how many salty people I'll find in the capital tomorrow...
Imagine Vanilla is your favourite flavour.
The two options on the Ballot read:
Do you wish to have Chocolate or Strawberry.
I think it will be the start of the EU collapse.
It will affect them negatively (at least in the short term), but I very much doubt many of them will be sorry to see us go - even if not everyone here deserves their disdain.
After finishing off my vanilla latte this morning, I can confidently say chocolate. Ready for the next referendum with decision making skills like these!
ferrasvansen
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I don't believe all leave voters are racist, but there are some. Just like I don't believe they are all conspiracy theorists but there are a lot.
Maedre
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Of cource we will miss you. The Uk ia a big part of it. It would be more fun if you had the Euro, but still.
Nah, Nah, Nah thats to easy.
EdwardTeach
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There are no exit polls and every vote counts so we won't find out result until about 7am tomorrow.
TheLegendOfMart
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Why?
Why is it the EU fault that this country didn't build enough houses, didn't invest in NHS and Doctors, let the bankers destroy our economy?
Our government is stripping the country piece by piece and now all of a sudden it's letting immigrants and refugees into the country that is the problem?
Well... there is little other reason to leave.
"Take back control" is an empty phrase that sounds nice while meaning literally nothing.
Immigration improves the economy. "I'm not xenophobic I just don't want all these immigrants around improving our economy, and I'm willing for us to turn our backs on the international community to stop them." Yeah ok
I don't think it's the numbers necessarily that we need to control. I think the volume of immigration is fine. What we need a tighter grip on is NHS tourism aka people who come to our country to have a baby then go home. That's a massive net loss for the country especially when you consider the family would be eligible for child benefit due to the birth taking place in the UK.
CyclopsRock
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Not a direct reply really, but it always makes me laugh when people point out that the UK (or, more accurately, England) was a nation ruled by the Britons, then the Romans, then the Britons again, then the Saxons invaded and we were Saxons, then the Normans, there's no such thing as "British", immigration has made us what we are etc etc. I mean, it's all true, but I don't suppose the Saxons were exactly thrilled when the Normans rolled into town and killed a bunch of people (to say nothing of the murderous Danes). Like, if this is meant to be a parallel about the positive effects of immigration, I'm not sure I wanna be on the side of the "natives"!
To actually answer your question, depends who you are, no? Most people don't look at their own life through a macro-economic lens.
MassiveNights
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EU economic migrants bringing a net benefit to the country has nothing to do with subjectivity or life experience. It's just a reality that you or I cannot change.
HandsomeCharles
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IIRC one of the various news outlets has commissioned one (Sky maybe?) but obviously we won't know the result of that until after the polls have closed
I think you're really underestimating how most Europeans feel. Most would probably not like to see you guys go at all. Of course I can only speak for myself personally, but I would be deeply disappointed if Britain did vote to leave. As I've said before, I want to build a better, more peaceful, stronger and more prosperous Europe together.
Just like there are far more reasons than just economic ones to vote remain, there are more reasons to vote leave than just immigration. (and certainly more than xenophobia)
Some people favour protectionism, or oppose the idea of European cooperation in general, or don't have faith that they can do anything to improve the way the EU works. I don't share any of those opinions, but that doesn't mean that anyone who has them is an idiot or anything.
phisheep
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Voted Remain. That should be no surprise to anyone here.
I walk down this street every single day, and at this time of day it is usually literally deserted. Empty. Today there are about 20-30 people wandering around in various directions, presumably having voted or going to vote (long street, three polling stations).
Only two others in the polling station with me, but seven booths rather than the usual three.
I walk down this street every single day, and at this time of day it is usually literally deserted. Empty. Today there are about 20-30 people wandering around in various directions, presumably having voted or going to vote (long street, three polling stations).
Only two others in the polling station with me, but seven booths rather than the usual three.
Is it bad that I partly want leave to win just to see the UK crumble by their own idiocracy?
Yes that's bad
CyclopsRock
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I don't see how that's an applicable metaphor. There are many flavours of ice cream and limiting the choice to two shuts out a lot of views. There are not many states of membership to the EU, there are two.
King Gilga
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Anyone willing to side with ukip is pretty suspect in my book.
BlazingDarkness
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My friend in London went to vote and his polling station was empty. Welp.
Lots of talk about it on my FB feed though so maybe people will get voting later?
Lots of talk about it on my FB feed though so maybe people will get voting later?
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