Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?


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Surprisingly relevant GAF ads. Just got one for Leave on the bottom of this thread, reloaded and now there's one for Remain on the top,..
 
For those that don't know why the currency fluctuations could show how the voting is going, have a look at this and play the "When did leave look to have momentum?" game

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I have read (nothing official) from several twitter feeds that the postal vote is mostly leave, but then I also read that they have not even been opened yet?
 
I have read (nothing official) from several twitter feeds that the postal vote is mostly leave, but then I also read that they have not even been opened yet?

I would expect it to be leave primarily, since I imagine it's mostly older voters who can't make it to the polls.
 
I have read (nothing official) from several twitter feeds that the postal vote is mostly leave, but then I also read that they have not even been opened yet?

Nothing has been announced. It could very well be, but assume bullshit until proven otherwise.

I don't believe they're counted until the rest though.
 
I have read (nothing official) from several twitter feeds that the postal vote is mostly leave, but then I also read that they have not even been opened yet?

I am not familiar with the britisch voting system, but I highly doubt that any country with postal vote opens these before the official voting day.
 
I'm up in Scotland, and spend a lot of time in the North East. A huge number of jobs in Scotland and the North are a direct result of London being a major economic centre. Hell, the entire financial services industry in Glasgow and Edinburgh only exists because it's much cheaper than London but has the advantage of being in the same time zone, same currency, etc.

Believing that London exists in a bubble and that what happens there has no impact on the rest of the UK is simply naïve. If things go south in the event of a Leave result, they will quite literally go south, and the north will feel the effects harder and sooner than anyone.

To be honest

London might not even be affected by leaving anyway.

IMF and all the experts predicted financial Armageddon for London if we didn't join the single currency. Instead we thrived.

They predict financial Armageddon again for the City of London if we leave the EU.
Who's to say we couldn't thrive again.

The experts were wrong last time, they could be again.
 
They predict financial Armageddon again if we leave the EU.
Who's to say we couldn't thrive again.

Eventually maybe, but the market is built on speculation and the £ is going to crash tomorrow if Leave wins. For how long, we don't know, but it's likely to increase prices of goods across the board for at least a year.

Not doing something the markets think is a good thing is a lot different than reversing something the markets already know is a good thing.
 
This is your daily reminder that you don't have to talk to people outside polling stations:

Ben Page, Ipsos MORI ‏@benatipsosmori 50s51 seconds ago

Ipsos MORI is not conducting a face to face exit poll outside polling stations. Hearing claims of people saying they are us
 
To be honest

London might not even be affected by leaving anyway.

IMF and all the experts predicted financial Armageddon for London if we didn't join the single currency. Instead we thrived.

They predict financial Armageddon again for the City of London if we leave the EU.
Who's to say we couldn't thrive again.

The experts were wrong last time, they could be again.

That's gambling talk. Doubling down with the country isn't what I fancy. Some contrarians in the stock market are millionaires. A lot are bankrupt.
 
This wins it for me...

It is (X) for Britain to leave the European Union:
Risky: 54%
Safe: 34%
(via YouGov)

It is (X) for Britain to remain part of the European Union:
Risky: 35%
Safe: 53%
(via YouGov)

When people are in polling both this will be the thing that decides result in my opinion.

As it happens, I'm in a few communities that discuss gameshows, and one of the things that's cropped up is that all-or-nothing gamble finale games work better overseas than they do in the UK due to the fact that we tend to err on the side of caution.

I think undecideds who believe in the risk will break to Remain, but many, I feel, think that the discussion of risk is simply scaremongering, and that's the more worrying group.
 
It's always weird watching the news on polling day since they can't mention it much. Nice calm and catch up on all the news thats been pushed aside the past week or so.
 
Bookies think this is a done deal, odds shortening rapidly on Remain win. Average odds have gone from 1/4 to 1/6 in the last hour or so.
 
So, I'm hearing lots of reports of polling stations covered in Union Jack flags. Surely, that's not allowed?
 
To be honest

London might not even be affected by leaving anyway.

IMF and all the experts predicted financial Armageddon for London if we didn't join the single currency. Instead we thrived.

They predict financial Armageddon again for the City of London if we leave the EU.
Who's to say we couldn't thrive again.

The experts were wrong last time, they could be again.

This is the first political event in my working life where I see employers actively stating their position - and I see the same thing throughout the industry. Historically the financial industry takes a neutral position on political voting but in this case every single internal expert analysis is saying voting Leave will be bad for the UK for at least the next few decades. Internally I know that exit strategies for huge chunks of our business are ready to be executed in the event of a Leave vote (ie, shitloads of job losses in the UK). That's not a secret, the CEO announced it publicly. The knock on effects of this are almost impossible to quantify, but to the average person it boils down to "not good".
 
Intrigued by the fact that UKIP stops short of -100%. Isn't that the fundamental point of UKIP?

I imagine there's a handful there who like the fact that UKIP raises legitimate worries about spending for instance in the EU (they'd be more effective at that if they ever showed up though) and feel other parties don't to a sufficient degree, but who on balance do prefer to remain part of the EU.
 
Some consider UKIP as more a protest vote.

If we remain part of the EU I hope they disappear into nothingness - they do nothing for us in EU Parliament

Yeah, there are stupid people in this country unfortunately. I mean, that's the whole point of voting Monster Raving Looney
or the guy round my way that renamed himself Leeds United.
 
To be honest

London might not even be affected by leaving anyway.

IMF and all the experts predicted financial Armageddon for London if we didn't join the single currency. Instead we thrived.

They predict financial Armageddon again for the City of London if we leave the EU.
Who's to say we couldn't thrive again.

The experts were wrong last time, they could be again.
"Vote LEAVE: it might not be a disaster!"
 
To be fair, I don't see a contradiction between the Union Jack and remaining in the EU.

I mean, it's not hard to see the connotation. When the leave campaign has been doused in Nationalism, and the Leave supporting papers are emblazoned with Union Jacks, there's an obvious leaning.
I'm amused by Guardian readers going so high, reading the comments section of EU articles there is harrowing.
Implying lefties think comment sections are anything other than hot garbage
 
I wonder how much of a difference those 1.2 million or so brits who live in EU countries- who (if they vote) will vote to remain- will make.

Well, my parents definitely will, they're in a position where uncertainty will really fuck them over both financially and potentially in health terms as well. One interesting thing is that they've co-opted my sister and brother-in-law in to voting Remain as well, and I think in the absence of that influence, my brother-in-law may have gone Leave.
 
I mean, it's not hard to see the connotation. When the leave campaign has been doused in Nationalism, and the Leave supporting papers are emblazoned with Union Jacks, there's an obvious leaning.

Implying lefties think comment sections are anything other than hot garbage

Which made no sense to me. "We want this union but not the other one!"

St George's crosses would be a no-no at polling stations, I would think
 
Good morning everyone, and welcome to Test Match Special on a rather overcast day at Trent Bridge, the Oval, Edgbaston and ... everywhere else really. The covers are off and there's a bit of damp in the outfield still but we've heard from the umpires that play is expected to start at seven am.

I'd say the match is evenly poised at this stage. The openers were all dismissed to outrageous spin and we're now into the long long tail which bats all the way down the order. And here's Henry Blofeld to take you through to the lunch interval.

Well hello dear boy! What a wonderful match this has been, I must say I don't think I've seen such a shabby bunch of openers since the Test in New Delhi in 1947, but there's everything to play for and as you say the Great British Publ

Dogger , German Bight, Cromartm North Utsire, South Utsire low, 987, expected Lundy 230 by 0300 tomorrow

y don't seem to have a weak batsman all the way down. This isn't a ground for boundaries and with the field so tightly packed we'll probably see a whole rash of singles all day and an exciting finish so long as we don't come off for bad light. What do you say Tuffers?

Yeah well like maybe huh jamaica once gobbledegook but then it could swing either way.

Thank you Tuffers dear fellow. Have a piece of cake. Oh, here's Geoffrey, what a nice surprise.

Let me tell you, in mah day they'd be out already. Ma old granny could 'ave this lot out ba loonchtime on this pitch no matter ow many there are of them. It's all about the corridor of uncertainty. Boot yer never can tell. Norreven me soomtimes. I remember in Barbados in 1933 ....

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Make your innings count. Get a swift single. Vote.

But what are the EU regulations on length and thickness of sticks of rhubarb?

A sublime cover drive down to the boundary, Phisheep. Excellent work. (Although fixed for long wave)
 
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