Mihael Mello Keehl
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You must dont know what a surface book. Poor baby
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Diprosalic
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very hard. ask sony and ms last gen and MS this gen.
if nintendo lost as much money as them on consoles they'd be dead.
Devilinthiscity
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Doesn't really sound appealing to me since I don't really play games on the go that much. Will wait and see how it turns out.
I did a quick photoshop. To my understand NX concept is going to be somewhat like this? Of cause I am assuming the controller in the handheld form will not be like that, but somewhat more portable.
Awesome job ArtHands!
I'm pleased enough that i won't have to buy all the doubled-up franchises anymore.
I've got no idea how they're going to design this thing to NOT look like a Wii U Gamepad though. For it to be comfortable in both configs, it has to be about the same size, so you're essentially looking at the same thing just with the sides cut off:
Gotta repurposes those parts somehow! Knowing their past marketing efforts, they'd probably walk right into an identity nightmare like this too.
It'd be better if the sides were identical and could attach left or right though - effectively including 2 simple controllers in the box.
Nice job!
Unclear on this also. Curious though. As Mihael said, maybe it's where the SCD patent went?
Aaronrules380
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That's assuming it does the X1 is final, and not just a placeholder for the X2 as the article speculates
Fractology
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Someone should flag this post and return to it in 4-5 years to see how right or wrong it is.
Real_Madrid
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Pretty much, I understand that some hardcore gamers on a forum like this one are interested, but why would casual gamers be interested? They have an expensive gaming device on the go.
I also understand that Nintendo isn't doing well in the AAA-console space, but if this is true, it would be a goodbye to that and I think many gamers with it.
I wonder what the battery life and heat situation is going to be like considering the kind of games that are said to come out on the NX. An iPhone will truck along for maybe 3-4 hours and gets super hot when you're playing the more graphically intense 3D games.
32 gigs of storage versus the 50 gigs of dual-layered blu-ray discs and internal storage space also has me worried. This compounded with differences in game architecture seems like third parties either dedicate a completely separate branch to NX or don't bother at all. Nothing new then!
32 gigs of storage versus the 50 gigs of dual-layered blu-ray discs and internal storage space also has me worried. This compounded with differences in game architecture seems like third parties either dedicate a completely separate branch to NX or don't bother at all. Nothing new then!
I read a rumour somewhere (I can't remember where so it's probably wrong)
that the Samsung Galaxy S8 is allegedly going to have 2 Memory card slots. I wonder if the 2nd is going to be able to play game carts. With samsungs push into VR/Gaming and 3rd parties looking to expand their potential install base. It makes sense that Samsung might try something like this.
rokkerkory
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So on par with like an iphone 6s and galaxy s7?
Sir_Crocodile
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Cartridges can be massive nowadays thanks to die shrinking.
And if it's truly a hybrid, they're needed. BD drives are a massive power drain.
NinjaCoachZ
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Nintendo's handhelds have traditionally outsold their consoles. By making this a handheld that also can be plugged into the TV to act as a console, in a way it is a less direct competitor with the PS4/XB1, and more a cool novelty with the appeal of being both. People will like the flexibility of having that from one device.
This shit will bomb so hard if it's more than 150 lmao. Parents will never buy a portable console for kids if it's more than that, and the Nintendo fanbase is too small to sustain it. Shit, 3DS+WiiU was not enough to sustain Nintendo, they had to start putting out more stuff like amiibos.
tiebreaker
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I play on handheld, but certainly prefer a home console experience. I hope Xenoblade 3 won't be impaired by this decision.
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Yep. The fact is that outside of very hardcore gamers most Nintendo lovers don't care for CoD/GTA/AssCreed et al., and most fans of those games don't care about Nintendo's "kiddy" games.
And even for those who like those games, many have online components and being mid-generation people are already locked into playing with their friends on certain platforms. That makes switching hard as in most friend circles a lot of people only own one platform and have no interest in a secondary one (not everyone in the friend circle is usually hardcore gamers).
Nintendo's only path to success is making as much money as possible from their fan base who buy their games, Amiibo etc. at very high attach rates, and appealing as a secondary console to more serious gamers who want something different than they're getting on PS/Xbox/PC. Having all their software in one place ups the chances of that as it makes a bigger library that will appeal to more and will up attach rates by not splitting their base.
Going for neo/scorpio power is suicide. This they have some chance of carving out a market and making money.
ViewtifulJC
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the 20 million Nintendo faithful who will shell out $300+ for a huge a portable you can connect to your Television sometimes
IAmAnAgnostic
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**= as long as new Nintendo games are involved. (hard to imagine this hybrid being BC)
Every daring NX rumor makes me happy because it's a different, interesting concept that does cater to something the competition isn't doing and I don't care about third parties licenses at this point.
Every daring NX rumor thread makes me sad because people just hate on the difference.
Y'all are why we can't have nice things
Every daring NX rumor thread makes me sad because people just hate on the difference.
Y'all are why we can't have nice things
Father_Brain
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Like it or not, believe it'll succeed or not (and I very much doubt it will), I don't see what differentiator they could offer that's stronger than first-party software, short of somehow catching lightning in a bottle again with a miraculously popular input gimmick. Which I don't think is possible in the mobile era anyway.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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That's right. Even with a stronger hardware they might not even get as much third party support so why not focus on their own line up? Seems reasonable to me
wild wild rice
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Neither do I. In fact, I never do. But it seems like this can simply be hooked up to a TV and function as a home console, so I'm not stressin'.
At the end of the day all that matters is the games.
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I've heard about shield... looking up the price it's not in a crazy pricerange, hm.
Makes me curious what the thing will be like in the end, I can't imagine Nintendo going with high end/high pricepoint though.
Funkyhamster
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This sounds kinda fun, honestly. As long as it looks nicer than a Wii U in TV mode, I'm okay with it.
Why? That's the standard for handhelds and pretty much without an alternative, unless you want to do digital-download-only. They will basically just be SD cards with a proprietary form factor for those who don't want to buy games digitally.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I did a quick photoshop. To my understand NX concept is going to be somewhat like this? Of cause I am assuming the controller in the handheld form will not be like that, but somewhat more portable.
To me, it sounds more like a Wii U controller when its all together. For two-player, one person plays with the screen and the other with the shell.
Whether that means the portable is just a touch-screen or not, I'm not sure.
Jim_Cacher
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Now imagine you can play
Fire Emblem on TV
Monster Hunter sequel on TV
Pokemon sequel on TV
3D Mario sequel on the go
Xenoblade sequel on the go
etc
As I really don't pay attention to hardware stuff, I seldom reply in NX speculation threads. But the Digital Foundry article is still enjoyable to read. NX will at least on par with current gen hardware and I am satisfied with that. It does not need to compete with Neo or Scorpio, whose market performances seems doubtful to me. Nintendo just need to keep pounding out good games and I will be very happy about it. In respect of third party titles, I can play them all on PC.
blu
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UE4 demo on X1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0d3rFALqLo
I don't know , that demo looked pretty good and that was really early before they populated those areas with people and monsters. It also gives me doubt that Final Fantasy XV will be ported too since it kind of chugs on the PS4 as well in some spots.
Turin Turambar
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I'm pleased enough that i won't have to buy all the doubled-up franchises anymore.
I've got no idea how they're going to design this thing to NOT look like a Wii U Gamepad though. For it to be comfortable in both configs, it has to be about the same size, so you're essentially looking at the same thing just with the sides cut off:
Gotta repurposes those parts somehow! Knowing their past marketing efforts, they'd probably walk right into an identity nightmare like this too.
It'd be better if the sides were identical and could attach left or right though - effectively including 2 simple controllers in the box.
I imagine something like this, 1 and 2 indicate controller left part and right part.
Except it will be much better than that because it will be designed from zero around that feature, unlike the wiiu.
I always disliked the idea of a hybrid since it seems like something that would combine all of the disadvantages and none of the advantages.
This sounds just like that.
I've always been in support of a low-powered Nintendo console, since - despite what I personally would prefer as a player - I think that a device that is as cheap as possible would help Nintendo a lot to reach its audience, which traditionally has been primarily families and casual people with more of a "second console" appeal to hardcore gamers. However, combining handheld and console actually sounds like its making things unnecessarily expensive, especially considering that handhelds aren't exactly hot in today's market (meaning a lot of people would be paying extra for something when all they want is a machine that plays Mario Kart on the TV).
Then there's that thing about anything but native 1080p just not being acceptable anymore for a console releasing in 2017. And yet, having to push a high resolution like that would be completely unncessary on the handheld side of things... Leading to the absurd situation where you either have to restrain the handheld or you have to live with games looking worse on the big screen instead of better (except if the base has some additional horsepower, I guess, but that would make things even more expensive). I guess we'll just get another 720p or 900p at best generation from Nintendo, then.
Oh well. Before Nintendo unveils the console and tells us exactly what they have in store for us, It's too early to pass judgement but the Eurogamer details sound like a clusterfuck to me.
This sounds just like that.
I've always been in support of a low-powered Nintendo console, since - despite what I personally would prefer as a player - I think that a device that is as cheap as possible would help Nintendo a lot to reach its audience, which traditionally has been primarily families and casual people with more of a "second console" appeal to hardcore gamers. However, combining handheld and console actually sounds like its making things unnecessarily expensive, especially considering that handhelds aren't exactly hot in today's market (meaning a lot of people would be paying extra for something when all they want is a machine that plays Mario Kart on the TV).
Then there's that thing about anything but native 1080p just not being acceptable anymore for a console releasing in 2017. And yet, having to push a high resolution like that would be completely unncessary on the handheld side of things... Leading to the absurd situation where you either have to restrain the handheld or you have to live with games looking worse on the big screen instead of better (except if the base has some additional horsepower, I guess, but that would make things even more expensive). I guess we'll just get another 720p or 900p at best generation from Nintendo, then.
Oh well. Before Nintendo unveils the console and tells us exactly what they have in store for us, It's too early to pass judgement but the Eurogamer details sound like a clusterfuck to me.
This would be wicked but it won't happen.
Really pleased if the home/mobile console combo would work out well. I love the concept.
Wow, team hybrid looks to take this one.
Not sure how to feel about this yet (need more info + a demonstration + clear as fuck messaging from Nintendo to show they "get" it), but I'm remaining open minded.
Edit: What are the chances of this plus that supplemental compute unit thing both coming to pass as the big gimmick?
Not sure how to feel about this yet (need more info + a demonstration + clear as fuck messaging from Nintendo to show they "get" it), but I'm remaining open minded.
Edit: What are the chances of this plus that supplemental compute unit thing both coming to pass as the big gimmick?
Ever since they showed BOTW's control scheme and presented it this way I thought the two sides of the gamepad were showing how the NX controllers would be, and it looks like two nunchuck-ish attachments. Probably the ones that snap onto the screen. Heh.
Don't forget the shoulder wheel possibility.
AcademicSaucer
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Its not worth it for them to chase Xbox and Playstation in that race tho, Scorpio comes out next next year and Sony has the Neo, it makes no sense for Nintendo to throw billions of dollars at that market .
Wii U was the last Nintendo home console and thank god for that.
Every daring NX rumor makes me happy because it's a different, interesting concept that does cater to something the competition isn't doing and I don't care about third parties licenses at this point.
Every daring NX rumor thread makes me sad because people just hate on the difference.
Y'all are why we can't have nice things
Gaming is a flop measuring contest for some.
cyberheater
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They have guaranteed they will never get them now.
If the Zune HD is anything to go by, the first gen Tegra was amazing at handling battery life. I could play audio surf for hours without it getting hot or draining a lot of battery
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